S&W 627 Performance Center 8 shot 357
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To some people yes they are to me not so much ymmv
50cal
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The question might be are they worth the delta over an alternative? Ya, I would say so.
bikemutt
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I have a post-lock, 5" 627 PC 8-shot. I will be selling it in the near future as it's just not what I imagined it to be. I prefer the six shooters.
Anyway, nothing against the gun but if a person is looking to have 2 extra rounds, maybe a semi-auto is in the cards.
Anyway, nothing against the gun but if a person is looking to have 2 extra rounds, maybe a semi-auto is in the cards.
bikemutt
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The 8-shot is an awesome gun but yes, bulky and heavy. It's not un-fun to shoot but it's no more accurate than a six shooter for me. There may be a theoretical advantage action-wise as the cylinder is moving less distance per round, that, combined with a smooth action, may lead to an awesome DA pull.
In practice the revolver does not disappoint; whether it impresses depends on the shooter.
In practice the revolver does not disappoint; whether it impresses depends on the shooter.
I have a 4" 627 Pro, but am thinking of picking up a 5" PC for USPSA match shooting (5" makes it a bit easier to make the minimum required Power Factor). To me, a 5" PC would be worth it, as it (and the 6.5" 9mm 929) is well-suited for runNgun competition.
But, yeah, they're big and bulky. And though you can shoot them with or without moonclips, moonclips work best with short fat semi-auto rounds, and many don't want to hassle with moons. So, as a carry weapon, if you want 8-round capacity, it'd be more practical to look at semis. Competition aside, then, they'd make a good nightstand and/or range gun, but much less so for EDC, IMO.
But, yeah, they're big and bulky. And though you can shoot them with or without moonclips, moonclips work best with short fat semi-auto rounds, and many don't want to hassle with moons. So, as a carry weapon, if you want 8-round capacity, it'd be more practical to look at semis. Competition aside, then, they'd make a good nightstand and/or range gun, but much less so for EDC, IMO.
bigtubby
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Got two prelock 627 V-Comps and are my two favorite range guns. No experience with the snubs. They are big guns which is good for me I got big hands. I am also a big fan of the 8 shot 327's with the 5 inch barrel.
boricua9mm
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I have one of the UDRs and have nothing but good things to say about it. Sure, I would prefer it have all forged parts and no lock on the side, but my specimen certainly seems to be built with the attention to detail that you would expect from the Performance Center.
I won't throw a huge review into your thread, but I shared my write-up and photos here: http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=754979
As far as being better off with a semi-auto, I'm not convinced about that. If it's for daily CCW for protection against bipedal vermin, then I would agree, but definitely not for a woods gun. I have a specific need for a tough revolver in .357 MAG that can handle heavy hard cast loads for hiking down here in Florida, as well as any other target .38/.357 I happen to be reloading at the time. After 20 years of trying, I never could trust the 1911, so a Coonan or a Delta isn't in the cards for me. I don't trust the EAA offerings either; far too many horror stories to throw my eggs in that basket. The Glock 10mm lacks the versatility of the 627, unless I want to fool around with conversion barrels (and I simply hate .40S&W). The G20/29 are pretty chunky guns themselves, too.
I won't throw a huge review into your thread, but I shared my write-up and photos here: http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=754979
As far as being better off with a semi-auto, I'm not convinced about that. If it's for daily CCW for protection against bipedal vermin, then I would agree, but definitely not for a woods gun. I have a specific need for a tough revolver in .357 MAG that can handle heavy hard cast loads for hiking down here in Florida, as well as any other target .38/.357 I happen to be reloading at the time. After 20 years of trying, I never could trust the 1911, so a Coonan or a Delta isn't in the cards for me. I don't trust the EAA offerings either; far too many horror stories to throw my eggs in that basket. The Glock 10mm lacks the versatility of the 627, unless I want to fool around with conversion barrels (and I simply hate .40S&W). The G20/29 are pretty chunky guns themselves, too.
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I think I'll save my $$$ for now and get one if I hit the jackpot!
I think my 6" S&W 357 lightweight hunting pistol will be fine as trail gun, and I will get a true small CC like an LCR.
It is an impressive and attractive 357 though!
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almost made me buy it!
You guys at THR are the BEST!
I think I'll save my $$$ for now and get one if I hit the jackpot!
I think my 6" S&W 357 lightweight hunting pistol will be fine as trail gun, and I will get a true small CC like an LCR.
It is an impressive and attractive 357 though!
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almost made me buy it!627PCFan
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Look at my Screenname and you get it 
If you like the looks and capacity of 8 rounds of 357, get it, its worth the money.
If you don't, get a 686 and an action job and get it cut for moon clips. Just as nice IMO.
If you like the looks and capacity of 8 rounds of 357, get it, its worth the money.
If you don't, get a 686 and an action job and get it cut for moon clips. Just as nice IMO.
bikemutt
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It just seemed awkward to talk about these fine handguns without a picture or two so we all know what they look like
Anyway, after taking mine to the range, I changed my mind about selling it.
Anyway, after taking mine to the range, I changed my mind about selling it.
I have one with a 5 inch barrel. The trigger seems a little heavy, albeit smooth.
It's {censored} awesome in my opinion!
It came with 2 or 3 moonclips, a useless cable lock, an even more useless internal lock, an instruction manual and an extra set of grips.
It's {censored} awesome in my opinion!
It came with 2 or 3 moonclips, a useless cable lock, an even more useless internal lock, an instruction manual and an extra set of grips.
Master Blaster
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Bought mine in 2009. Its great fun to shoot, if you like Smith N Frames in.357, you will love it. Moonclips load fast and easy for me. Very accurate and easy to shoot well. You can pick the front sight you like best. Great DA trigger although mine needed a little tweek to get there.
Now you guys are the Devil!
Just when rational thought had reentered my brain ya'll had 2 go an post mouthwatering pics Or as Michael Corleoni would say "just when I got out, you PULL me back in!" What 2 do, what 2 do :banghead:
This is definitely an I WANT it gun, not an I need it gun.
What is a fair price for a 5" in excellent veru lightly used condition?
Just when rational thought had reentered my brain ya'll had 2 go an post mouthwatering pics
Or as Michael Corleoni would say "just when I got out, you PULL me back in!" What 2 do, what 2 do :banghead:This is definitely an I WANT it gun, not an I need it gun.
What is a fair price for a 5" in excellent veru lightly used condition?
bikemutt
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Sorry 'bout thatJust when rational thought had reentered my brain ya'll had 2 go an post mouthwatering pics
This is definitely an I WANT it gun, not an I need it gun.
What is a fair price for a 5" in excellent veru lightly used condition?
The story on mine is I found it on gunsinternational.com for sale at a Cabelas in MN, asking $900. I called and spoke with a salesperson who said that while they still had the revolver, an in-store customer was thinking about buying it, said he'd call me back if the guy changed his mind. Then he said the guy changed his mind and walked off; I bought it on the spot. By now I had a nice rapport going with this fellow, he agreed to ship it for free. The next day they had my FFL dealer's license in hand, a week later I had the gun. To my surprise it included the original shiny aluminum "suitcase" and some extra grips I had no interest in.
I don't know what they sell for these days but I can tell you back then, the cheapest one I found without a lock was for $1800 plus shipping. As a range gun I don't care about the lock but I still removed and plugged it, looks better to me.
Ohen Cepel
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I would love one of the railed 8 shot .357's but I just can't take the lock, especially on something I want as a HD gun.
Phaedrus/69
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I have no experience with them but I've long lusted after the 8 shot .357 Mag! There are lots of reasons to go with a wheelgun no matter the capacity, and eight rounds of .357 Mag should get the job done. Heck, for no good reason but the fun of it I'd love to have one of the 8 shot 9mm revolvers, too.
Oh, Lord...
There's a lot written on the topic. Much of it emotionally charged. Use the Search function, but to head off some serious thread veer, I'll offer a general rundown in no particular order...
- Some hate The Lock because it represents the capitulation of an iconic firearms company to lawyers and political pressure.
- Some hate The Lock because it's an unnecessary part. Any mechanical piece can fail, so installing another that's not even necessary is poor engineering.
- Some hate The Lock for aesthetic reasons.
- Some hate The Lock because they feel it's part of the "cheapening" of modern revolvers which includes MIM parts, frame-mounted firing pins and less overall hand fitting.
Functionally, The Lock has largely been a non-issue. Actual documented failures from 1st-hand sources very rare, and AFAIK, limited to lightweight guns that fire heavy recoiling ammo.
As you can see in bikemutt's 627, if you don't like it, it can be removed, and the hole plugged.
There's a lot written on the topic. Much of it emotionally charged. Use the Search function, but to head off some serious thread veer, I'll offer a general rundown in no particular order...
- Some hate The Lock because it represents the capitulation of an iconic firearms company to lawyers and political pressure.
- Some hate The Lock because it's an unnecessary part. Any mechanical piece can fail, so installing another that's not even necessary is poor engineering.
- Some hate The Lock for aesthetic reasons.
- Some hate The Lock because they feel it's part of the "cheapening" of modern revolvers which includes MIM parts, frame-mounted firing pins and less overall hand fitting.
Functionally, The Lock has largely been a non-issue. Actual documented failures from 1st-hand sources very rare, and AFAIK, limited to lightweight guns that fire heavy recoiling ammo.
As you can see in bikemutt's 627, if you don't like it, it can be removed, and the hole plugged.
I’ve got the light-weight 327 with the 5” barrel.
After doing an action job on it and replacing the springs with Bang, Inc. springs, it’s 100% reliable with Federal primers seated all the way and not reliable at all with most factory ammo.
That’s fine, since it’s a competition-only gun.
I shoot .38 Short Colt reloads in it, not the magnum ammo shown here.
When I was heavy into steel shooting, I had pretty good success with it.
After doing an action job on it and replacing the springs with Bang, Inc. springs, it’s 100% reliable with Federal primers seated all the way and not reliable at all with most factory ammo.
That’s fine, since it’s a competition-only gun.
I shoot .38 Short Colt reloads in it, not the magnum ammo shown here.
When I was heavy into steel shooting, I had pretty good success with it.
Aesthetic preference mainly. The internal lock never failed me, I've never used it.
TfflHndn
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I sure like mine. I got one of the earlier V-Comps, 5-inch barrel plus compensator. Best trigger of any gun I own in SA, and very good in DA as well. And probably the most accurate gun I own. Worth what I paid for it years ago.
Huntolive said:
Technically, it's a "storage device". With the lock engaged, the trigger can't be pulled, so (I suppose) the idea is it renders the locked and stored gun only operable by the person with the key, rather than kids, etc.
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