BHP shooters do not complain about them - they simply remove them.jeff-10 said:
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S&W now to make the "M&P15"
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Radagast
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*Sigh* back in the old days on TFL there was a moderator enforced limit on the number of posts about locks in a S&W thread. Be happy! Another company is bringing out a new gun. Yesterday the story was that USRAC was gone and with it the Winchester rifles. Now we have some good news and people are pissing and moaning. Think of it as an opportunity. Start writing to S&W and ask them for a gas piston upper. with all the new products they put out, they are probably more likely than H&K ever will be to sell one to the civilian market.
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S&W should make a shotgun and start selling package deals to police departments;it seems every cop needs to have an AR-15 now and I'm sure they could make some sweet deals to claw back the cop market from Glock.
It makes sense for them to built an AR,they're the hot ticket right now-actually I think KelTec is dumb for not making their polymer pistol into an M4 lookalike as it would fly off the shelves if priced the same as the SU.
It makes sense for them to built an AR,they're the hot ticket right now-actually I think KelTec is dumb for not making their polymer pistol into an M4 lookalike as it would fly off the shelves if priced the same as the SU.
TexasRifleman
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outofbattery said:
Shotguns have fallen from favor of late. The patrol rifle is the hot thing right now.
I think having a package of handgun, patrol rifle, training and maintenance will get you the business.
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I was thinking more like putting "tactical orange" stocks on and making the departments buy new less-lethal munitions launchers.Sell em everything from handcuffs to knives in the process.
If only they'd hire me to be a salesguy.
If only they'd hire me to be a salesguy.
Cosmoline
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adaman04 said:
They already tried that, and the response nearly bankrupted them.
My biggest problem is with the use of the name for some plastic POS. But I'm an old fussbudget.
stevelyn
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TechBrute said:
Yup. Part of a trigger job for a BHP.
The Springfield locks aren't a problem because they are located in the mainspring housing. Swap the mainspring housing with an aftermarket jobbie...............no more lock.
Nightcrawler
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I for one am relieved. Just the other day I was saying to a buddy, "you know, what we need is for some innovative manufacturer out there to make a COPY of the AR-15." I know! It's unprecedented. But think about. One can hardly find an AR-15 these days...and the patents have all expired. Plus, with the whole DoD thing, most of the parts are made by subcontractors! Some innovative company could step up, slap the parts together, stamp their rollstamp on there, and call it good!
I can't believe no one's tried this before. I mean, the market is RIPE.
*whew* More sarcasm than is recommended for human consumption.
I can't believe no one's tried this before. I mean, the market is RIPE.
*whew* More sarcasm than is recommended for human consumption.
Bobarino
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am i the only one that's bothered by S&W making their new pistol and rifles and calling them "Military and Police"? they're reminding me of H&K. screw those peon civilians, these guns are for the military and police only. i wouldn't even think about buying one. maybe if they made a "Defense Against Tyranny model, the DAT, i'd buy one.
Bobby
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I honestly have no more problem with a manufacturer targeting a specific demographic like the Military or Police than I do producing a "Varmit" rifle, a "Hunting" rifle, a "Cowboy" pistol, or anything else designed to attract a certain segment.Bobarino said:
Oh, and ALL guns are the DAT models...
Peter M. Eick
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When I read this I looked out the window.
Yes, a snowball just flew by in Houston, TX. I then saw a pig fly by a flock of flying turtles.
What a week Winchester tanks the 94/70 and S&W makes a Colt AR clone.
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Yes, a snowball just flew by in Houston, TX. I then saw a pig fly by a flock of flying turtles.
What a week Winchester tanks the 94/70 and S&W makes a Colt AR clone.
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kjeff50cal
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mndfusion said:
I wanted a Remington Revolving Carbine since I was a kid. I was testing out my then new Yugo SKS at the 25 yard range when a gent took the station beside me. He uncased an Italian replica (I think Uberti) of the Remington chambered in .45 Colt.
I was firing from the bench as was he and the only barrier between us was a screen of hardware cloth. At his first shot I felt stinging on my cheek. The second debris from it some how found the seam of my shooting glasses and hit me at the corner of my right eye
.It stung like a
. I yell and he looks over and I tell him what happened. we figured out that gases and particles were escaping the cylinder gap bombarding anyone standing (or sitting) to either side of the Remington (luck me it was not shaving lead). kjeff50cal
BTH that is why you HAVE to hold a revolving rifle sort of like a two hand, Weaver style grip otherwise your foregrip arm is going to get "tatooed".
TexasRifleman
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'Cause "Homeland Defense" contracts don't specify revolving rifles.....
This whole Homeland Security thing just rains money on companies that can take advantage of it.
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BINGO!! The government is sticking out another teet and of course S&W wants to get at it to. Also I think the "Military&Police" is a great marketing tool, a lot of sheep will see that and think that if that is what their getting than the individual wants one too. Just like why people buy M4 Colts.
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Colt AR clone???
Do you mean the Colt AR that was an Armalite clone?
Yeah, thought so.
A reputable company making a new gun, even a tried-and-true AR, is never a bad thing. Repeat that to yourself about 1,000 times.
Fly320s
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The March 2006 edition of Guns and Ammo has the SW M&P15 on the cover.
I haven't read the article yet, but the MSRP is $1700.
I haven't read the article yet, but the MSRP is $1700.
The $1700 model is the "T" designation. Quad rail, Troy backup sights, and other extras. The standard model I believe is around $1200.Fly320s said:The March 2006 edition of Guns and Ammo has the SW M&P15 on the cover.
I haven't read the article yet, but the MSRP is $1700.
Nightcrawler
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Happily for Smith & Wesson, a hoard of gunwriters will repeat the mantra of "you can't cheap out when your life is on the line". This will justify paying twelve to seventeen hundred dollars for a rifle that S&W doesn't even manufacture themselves.
Basic Bushmaster: $700-900
Basic DPMS: $600-800
For the same design with the same features, how can you justify paying more?
It's not just the features that you're paying for. QC plays a big part of it. Colt, Bushmaster, and DPMS have distinctly varying levels of QC. But, then again, ignorance is bliss, and S&W isn't going for DPMS's target demographic, they are going after Colt's.Nightcrawler said:
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