S&W Sigma Pistols

[FLA2760]

I am thinking of buying the S&W SW9VE 9mm or the .40 version. I am wondering if any of you have experience with them. I already have a Glock 27 that I CCW.I want a higher capacity pistol without spending $600+. This will be more of a house/car gun. The nine holds 17 rounds the .40 holds 15 rounds. Thank you.

 

[Omaha-BeenGlockin]

If you buy one soon ---you can get 2 extra mags out of S&W too.

 

[Just_a_dude_with_a_gun]

I am not fond of the trigger, or the ergonomics on the Sigmas.
If I were in your shoes, I would be apt to look at a used Glock,
or Springer XD than the new sigma... jm$.002

 

[hagar]

Try the Sigma, you might like it. The trigger is a little longer than a Glock, but it breaks real smooth, and they are very accurate pistols.

 

[..]

Pick up the Sigma, for under $300 it is an excellent pistol and S&W is running the $30 rebate or two mag special. The 2nd gens got a bad reputation, the current models are fine.

Or spend a little more and get the M&P, outstanding pistol.

 

[SouthpawShootr]

Very serviceable gun. It's quite good at what it was designed for, defensive applications. If you want to use the gun for primary carry or home defense, you're good to go. If you're going to be use it for long excursions at the range, get something else. The reason I say that is the thing that everybody complains about.....the trigger. It can be mastered for those willing to invest the time in it. But that trigger can be a real aggravation in extened target shooting applications. I'm happy with mine, but I knew what I was buying and I knew what I would use it for. Try to find a range that rents one or a friend or acquaintance who will let you shoot his.

 

[denfoote]

My standard reply with regard to my Sigma.

It fits my hand.
It goes bang every time I pull the trigger.
It's not fussy about what I feed it.
It puts lead where I need it to go.

 

[Coronach]

I see no reason to get a Sigma over a M&P, except economics. If you cannot afford, or do not want to pay for, a better gun, the newer Sigmas will get the job done. They've largely shaken off the reliability issues that plagued the earlier models. The ergonomics and trigger are the same, however. Ergonomics are subjective. And, it will probably work. If that's good enough, it's good enough.

But make no mistake, the M&P is a better gun.

JMO,

Mike

 

[piranha45]

can the sigmas' trigger be easily replaced with a better trigger?

 

[Tezcatlipoca]

use two fingers for the trigger and you'll do fine.

 

[Whirlwind06]

After shooting the Kel-Tec P11 the trigger on the sigma doesn't too bad at all.
Everything is relative. For the money they are pretty good pistols.

 

[MR.G]

I wanted to buy a some extra magazines for my SW9VE. I ended up buying another SW9VE today. It came with two sixteen round magazines, and a coupon for two more by mail from Smith & Wesson. Paid a little over $300.00 for the gun with four sixteen round magizines. I guess that makes the magazines about $75.00 each, and a free new gun? About what I paid for high capacty S&W magazines during the AWB.

 

[mljdeckard]

I always welcome the opportunity to do society a favor by steering people away from Sigmas.

I had a first-gen .40. (And I heard they worked some of the bugs out in later generations, but why didn't they work them out BEFORE THEY WENT INTO PRODUCTION?)

I bought it new, thinking, "Great, I'm a smart consumer, not buying into the Glock revolution, waiting for an American company to work the bugs out." I was SOOOO wrong.

Would not feed ANY hollow-points. I had to have the feed ramp milled, which was covered under warranty, but there is no reason for this.

The front sight fell out. (Imagine Ron White repeating, "It fell off. It FELL OFF. IT FELL THE $#@^ OFF!") Oh well, I wanted trijicons anyway, right?

The trigger feels like the striker in a pinball machine.

This was BY FAR the worst pistol I have ever owned. This pistol is the reason I test fire before I buy anymore. This pistol is what taught me gun magazines sell pistols exactly the same way car magazines sell cars.

Get a used Glock for the same money.

 

[WeThePeople]

My 9mm Sigma...

I have the Sigma in 9mm. I think that it is a great gun.

I am carrying mine right now. I have owned it since 1995 or 1996 and have put many rounds through it. I'm not sure of the rate, but if I had to guess, I'd say that I have 1 mis-extraction every 250 rounds. No misfeeds ever.

I personally like the longer trigger pull. For me, that means no trigger jerk and a more accurate shot. In my own opinion, I prefer the Sigma trigger to a Glock trigger.

I did have to send it to the factory once in 1996 when the extractor quit, but I have had absolutely no problems with it since then. By the way, I had my Sigma back from S&W 11 days after I shipped it to them.

 

[EdLaver]

the sigma is a nice "Starter" piece. The trigger has a DEEP pull but other than that it is nicely crafted.

 

[lawson]

I bought a 9VE for a night watchman job that required a 9mm. Being a revolver guy, I didn't own a nine, or any semi-autos. I didn't want to spend too much money, so I picked up a Sigma. It was the second generation, with the light rail and "improvements"

I had hangups with one type of hollowpoint, which was Cor-Bon. The profile of the bullet was short and stubby. Using Gold Dots and Hydra-Shoks, the gun fed reliably 100% of the time. No failures with any of the ball ammo I used.

The trigger pull isn't great, but no worse than some of my DA revolvers. Once you get used to the pull, it's plenty accurate. The ergonomics fit my hand very well, which is my only beef with Glocks. Not a one of them fits my oddly shaped hand comfortably.

For the money, it's hard to beat.

 

[jon_in_wv]

I just bought a M&P 9mm compact and my wife bought the full size. She got the carry kit (pistol, three mags, mag carrier, and holster) for $580.00. Thats a heck of a deal if you can swing it!

I bought my compact for $560. She HAD to one-up me.

 

[jgorniak]

This stuff again...

I always welcome the opportunity to do society a favor by steering people away from Sigmas.
I had a first-gen .40. (And I heard they worked some of the bugs out in later generations, but why didn't they work them out BEFORE THEY WENT INTO PRODUCTION?)

:banghead: I read and heard a LOT of this before I decided on my SW9VE a few months ago. It may have been true back then, but in my experience, it couldn't be further from the truth today. Ergonomics, trigger pull, etc. are all subjective, but the combination of price and reliability simply cannot be topped.

 

[RTFM]

Don't like the Smegmas. Never warmed up to the trigger everyone is talking about.

That's me.


I would really consider another Glcok if I were you.
No new / different manual of arms to learn / remember.

Gee I'm in my cay... do I pull the trigger or did this one have a safety?....
Oh crap did I de cock before I re-holstered... Do I have the S&W oh gee no the Glock is DA....
Oh I should have stayed with the same model / line of pistol......

 

[FLA2760]

Re sigmas

Hi
I pick up my sigma .40 tommorrow. I have a Kel Tec P11 and revolvers so I am thinking that the trigger issue may not be too much for me. I will post after the first range session.

 

[bpisler]

Glocks and sigma's pretty much work the
same way,pull the trigger and it goes
bang.Mag release's are in the same spot
and work the same.Neither one has a true
manual safety or a decocker.The biggest
difference would be the longer/heavier
trigger pull of the sigma and that can be
overcome with practice.

 

[Coronach]

The front sight fell out. (Imagine Ron White repeating, "It fell off. It FELL OFF. IT FELL THE $#@^ OFF!")

One of the funniest moments in that entire very funny routine.

Mike

 

[possum]

i would say no to the sigma, there are many better guns out there in the price range you are looking for. if you have a glock and you get a sigma, then you might not be hapy with it. maybe you will but i doubt it. try an xd, get another glock, like the 19, or 17, etc. i think that would be better for you IMHO!

 

[sb350hp]

Never owned but buddy had a sigma 40 cal. Only shot it a few times. Initial reaction. I did not care for it. Just my opinion. Seemed to have heavy recoil for a 40. Shot like my 45.

Pretty good (accurate) shooter though. If the price is right, go for it. To each his own

 

[budney]

I like my SW9VE

My first pistol, bought because it was cheaper than the Glock 19, felt better in my hand, and was in other ways essentially identical.

So far put 250 rounds through it, and had 1 FTE and 2 FTFs--probably all my fault for limp-wristing it. I've also put 100 rds through a rented G19, and the trigger is certainly lighter and my groups were correspondingly tighter. I'm getting the hang of the Sigma's trigger and don't really have any complaints about it. Of course I haven't tried spending a full day at the range or firing 1K rounds in one go; it might make my hands tired.

As the thread indicates, the heavy trigger is the single issue that keeps coming up. Best thing to do is rent one and see how you like it. I certainly like mine.

--Len.