sad day for me what to do now??

[WeedWhacker]

Sounds like the system as currently designed worked. Hire a lawyer to plead your case.

So, a stupid decision is made 6+ years in the past, punishment has been meted out and paid in full, and the person in question isn't a "prohibited person". How, exactly, did the system work, assuming the system isn't designed to keep free citizens from being able to fend for themselves...?

 

[22-rimfire]

I'm no attorney and I certainly don't know the particulars of the case. California is a may issue state and a significant black mark on your record will likely cause a problem. I know someone that was fired from a job at age 40 for getting into a fist fight when he was 18 after it was discovered. The charges were dismissed and so long ago that he didn't list this on an employment application. Life is tough.

I do believe that if you pay your price to society, that you should have full rights restored unless it is was a considered a violent crime. If the price is not high enough, then increase the price but don't do it after the given sentence is served. California residents need to work within the sytem to change the laws. Bitching doesn't help.

Again, get an attorney, discuss with the Sheriff or DA, and decide on a course of action most likely to give the result you seek. You will need their support. Their recommendation might be all that is necessary along with a petition.

We have to live with our stupid decisions and 6 years ago is not that long ago. A man in Tennessee was granted full rights at something like age 80 after being convicted many many years before for making moonshine and selling it. Our president granted the reprieve. Call Arnold and let him make your day.

 

[45Badger]

Sounds like the system as currently designed worked. Hire a lawyer to plead your case.

So, a stupid decision is made 6+ years in the past, punishment has been meted out and paid in full, and the person in question isn't a "prohibited person". How, exactly, did the system work, assuming the system isn't designed to keep free citizens from being able to fend for themselves...?

Couple things- It's California, and note the "as currently designed" bit.

And sometimes, our past indiscretions have an impact on our current and future opportunities. Legally, he can own a gun. He MAY be barred (in kali, and some other states) from CCW based on prior bad/stupid acts.

Our acts tend to define our characters, and 5 years of good behavior between ages 18-24 don't necessarily qualify him for sainthood (or CCW in Kali )

If he's been a good boy, can have a professional and civil meeting with the under-sheriff, and take specific steps to re-instate this privilege (remember- it's California)- he can probably get a CCW. Maybe there will be some further "good learning" about accountability and consequences for this young man as he goes through the process.

 

[trainwreck100]

Bitching doesn't help

But it sure does make you feel good...

 

[WeedWhacker]

Maybe there will be some further "good learning" about accountability and consequences for this young man as he goes through the process.

So, what was the 52 days of community service supposed to accomplish? Brownie points towards good karma? If a person remains a dangerous criminal, lock 'em up. If they're not a dangerous criminal... "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights ..."

California or no, it's still unconstitutional.

 

[Limeyfellow]

Clinton already crossed the line with misdemeanor domestic violence convictions and DV protective orders. Once you've opened up the door to ONE misdemeanor offense, you've opened the door to ALL misdemeanor offenses. It is just a matter of time before there are enough votes in Congress and a willing President to make it happen. Traffic violations come next, then spitting on the sidewalk.

No ****

We saw a whole bunch of laws like the Hatch-Craig Gun Control Amendment, put forward by Orrin Hatch. Background registration checks by Gordon Smith, the Juvenile Crime Bill of 99, another Orrin Hatch bill that the senate forced through that is probrobly one of the things that they come down on you by restricting so much stuff. Then there was Trent Lott calling for a vote to more harshly enforce gunlaws and penelties. Orrin Hatch and Trent Lott did more to ban firearms ownership rights than most the rest of the government put together.

 

[cloudcroft]

cmysprks,

In Texas, if you owe any school loans (GSL), you don't get a permit. Don't know if CA is the same but you might check for OTHER disqualifiers...Texas has lots of them.

Hope you get your problem cleared up,

-- John D.

 

[ArchAngelCD]

A Lawyer is a very good idea IF your record was the reason for denial. The most important reason for the Lawyer is to make sure you can pursue a career in Law Enforcement. HEY, if you become a LEO you won't need a CCW, you will be mandated to carry 24/7 LOL!!!