xxxleafybugxxx
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I was going to post a new thread, but if I get get answeres here I won't
Is there a gall in 5.45?
Overall, how do galils preform?
Is there a gall in 5.45?
Overall, how do galils preform?
xxxleafybugxxx said:Is there a gall in 5.45?
Overall, how do galils preform?
Overall, how do galils perform?
The Saigas you see that look like a standard AK started life as sporter models. They had to in order to be legally imported to the US. There may not be a federal ban on so-called assault weapons, but there is still a prohibition on the import of non-sporting firearms, and the manufacture of non sporting firearms from too many imported parts. Once here some companies and distributors convert Saigas to standard AK configuration, but replace enough foreign made parts with US made parts to make them legal.Going back to the saiga and the conversion kits...
What are they needed for? I see saigas that come in the sporter model, and regular with the pistol grip.. I think I'm missing something here.
AK 74 mags won't fit a 5.45 Saiga without both modifying the mag well, and adding a bullet guide / feed ramp into the receiver to get the ammo to feed properly because the tops of AK mags sit too low in the Saiga receiver. There are US made Saiga mags over 10 round capacity which fit into an unmodified mag well, and have a feed ramp / bullet guide integrated into the magazine itself because these magazines sit a bit higher in the mag well. Unfortunately I've only seen them available in 5.56, 7.62x39, and .308; but not 5.45 yet.Can the stock Saiga ak74 accept 30+ rd mags?
What am I missing?
Any mag that holds over 10 rounds is illegal in a factory Saiga.M1key, thanks for the correction on the 5.45 Saiga / AK mag compatability. How does using a foreign made mag over 10 rounds in stock Saiga affect legality regarding "sporting purposes"?
So then the conversion makes it legal?
Title 18 Chapter 44 Section 922(r) of the United States Code, defined further by Title 27 Part 478.39 of the Code of Federal Regulation (CFR), ambiguously restricts semiautomatic rifles and shotguns to no more 10 imported parts from a list of 20 parts.
27 C.F.R. 478.89 lists 20 parts:
(1) Frames, receivers, receiver castings, forgings or stampings
(2) Barrels
(3) Barrel extensions
(4) Mounting blocks (trunions)
(5) Muzzle attachments
(6) Bolts
(7) Bolt carriers
(8) Operating rods
(9) Gas pistons
(10) Trigger housings
(11) Triggers
(12) Hammers
(13) Sears
(14) Disconnectors
(15) Butt stocks
(16) Pistol grips
(17) Forearms, hand guards
(18) Magazine bodies
(19) Followers
(20) Floorplates
Of these twenty parts, the laws states that you can have NO MORE THAN 10 imported parts on your semi-automatic rifle or shotgun. These twenty parts are meant to cover all platforms, and as you know all platforms are not the same. Without getting into specific platforms, starting out you know that you will not have to change more than 10 parts to ensure your rifle is compliant.
Not true.
Bulgarian, Russian, E. German bakelight, and Romanian polymer and steel '74 mags are identical and should lock in the Saiga without any modification. Many of the guys on Saiga-12.com claim the Saigas will even run fine without the bullet guide. Mine will too, but I installed the guide in both of them anyway.
Surefire doesn't make 30 round 5.45 mags because there are plenty of new, unissued Bulgarian mags around for a fraction of the cost that Surefire could make them. Also Tapco has gotten into the game with very good 10 and 30 rounders for $8 and $13 respectively. Tapco claims the mags will need a bullet guide to function properly.
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Bulgarian, Russian, E. German bakelight, and Romanian polymer and steel '74 mags are identical and should lock in the Saiga without any modification. Many of the guys on Saiga-12.com claim the Saigas will even run fine without the bullet guide. Mine will too, but I installed the guide in both of them anyway.
Welcome to US firearms laws. :banghead:This is very confusing... and seems a little stupid