Same caliber in longun and handgun?

[Colt46]

Kinda limiting

I've got a Ruger bisley and Rossi '92 carbine in .45 Colt. Both can be seriously handloaded to ahieve their potential. The carbine is easy to carry and capable of some really serious short range power.
The only downside is neither being a long range proposition.

 

[berkbw]

Well - - If you're thinking Thompson for the pistol, then I think you have the world in front of you. Otherwise - from my tiny mind :

.22 LR - Cheap, easy-to shoot, limp;

.45ACP - Use your 1911 stuck in a carbine, eh? OK as a pistol, not worse as a carbine - but you have 1 1/2 guns.;

.44 MAG - Kick A$$ in Handgun (sorry, wheel only, not auto), not bad performance in rifle.

So - there ARE some picks, eh.

b-

 

[ROMAK IV]

If it seems convenient and practical to you, that's fine. If this is your primary rifle/hendgun, then NO, it's kind of crazy. A hangun's practical range is usually about 25 yards, and those that go further, aren't practical for most handgun tasks. Rifle's are intended to have a longer range, and those in handgun caliber, give quite a bit of a compromise in that respect.

 

[T.R.]

This is a Marlin model 1894 in 44MAG that I hunted with for many years. It would shoot 200 grain hollow tips by Hornady (.430) pretty well. But this particular carbine would NOT shoot the heavyweights well at all. 8 inch groups at 100 yards was best it would do with 240 grain bullets. So I sold it for good price and bought a Ruger 96 in same chambering.

My Ruger shoots 300 grain bullets, 275, 240 or whatever I feed it. All cluster into tight groups. It is not as attractive as the Marlin but field performance was my objective.

TR

 

[Legionnaire]

Other than using the same ammunition, what are the benefits of this setup?

For me, that one point is sufficient ... especially with .22s. Everyone should have at least a couple of long guns and hand guns in .22LR. They are great, inexpensive plinkers, and can be hunting/target accurate. I like to use .22s to introduce new shooters to different actions. Hence break, bolt, and semi-auto .22 rifles, and a couple of revolvers and semi-auto pistols in the same caliber.

Beyond that, I've found .38/.357 to be good range and field rounds, so have a revolver and a lever action rifle in .357. But again, mostly for the convenience of having the same ammo. The lever isn't my preferred hunting rifle, nor is .357 my preferred hunting caliber for a handgun.

I'll bet that CAS folks are the strongest proponents of handguns and rifles in the same caliber ...

 

[macadore]

Other than 22, I do not own any rifles and handguns in the same caliber. I use the 22s to teach my grandchildren to shoot. At one time I had a Marlin 1894 and a Ruger Super Blackhawk with a 2x scope. Both were chambered for the 44 Magnum. I eventually came to believe that there was no need to carry a rifle if a handgun would do the same thing. This may have made sense in the Old West when one gun might break or one might run out of one type of ammo, but most of us don’t operate under those conditions. If a 44 Magnum hand gun won’t kill it, then I want a rifle in a more substantial caliber.

I realize semi-auto carbines in self defense calibers are very popular, but I don’t get it. Why pay $400 plus dollars for a 45 ACP carbine when you can get a rifle in 7.62x39 for less? I guess I have become eccentric in my old age.

 

[thunder173]

Winchester 94 Trapper and Ruger Super Blackhawk in .44 Mag, Marlin B/A's in both .22 LR and .22 Mag to match a Ruger Single Six,....covers the close work just fine.

 

[Moonclip]

Off the top of my head I do it in .22lr,.22mag,.357mag,9x19,.40S&W,.44mag,9mm Largo,used to do it in .45acp.

Heck, I've could do it in .223, I have a T/C contender! I like pistol caliber long guns to shoot at the indoor range.

 

[loud-mouth shnook]

In handgun calibers, I've always gravitated toward the concept of handguns and longguns each being half of a "set".

To that end, I've managed to acquire:

-Ruger semi-auto pistol and carbine in .22lr just 'cause I think we all should.

-1953 Marlin 39A and 1958 S&W model 17 (also 22lr, of course) because they feel "classy" and are a pairing of 2 works of art and examples of unbeatable american craftsmanship that's now pretty much a thing of the past.

-A Marlin 1894S and S&W 629 Classic DX (both in .44 magnum) for the same reasons as the pairing of rimfire Marlin and S&W cited above and also covering the centerfire piece of the puzzle.

All together, they make up an extremely useful, reliable, and high-quality bunch of gear.

lIn fact, I'm looking for a gold-trigger, no-crossbolt Marlin 1894CS to pair up with a 586. Hah, wish me luck.

 

[223_AR]

I believe a while back i read a post that was in response to someone asking if they should get a 10/22 or not. And one of the reply's was "You have to own a 10/22, its the law"

 

[223_AR]

I believe a while back i read a post that was in response to someone asking if they should get a 10/22 or not. And one of the reply's was "You have to own a 10/22, its the law"

 

[KI.W.]

Dan Wesson .357 Super Mag revolver
T/C G2 .357 Rem Maximum & silencer carbine

Brno 110 .22 Hornet rifle :mad
T/C Contender .22 Hornet pistol

Anschutz .22LR rifle
Anschutz .22Lr Exemplar pistol

 

[texas bulldog]

got a .357 lever/revolver combo. will have the same in .22 by christmas at the latest. hope to add combos in .44 and .45 at some point in the future. i really don't think anyone here is going to tell you it's a bad idea...

 

[glockman19]

I have a .22/.38-.357mag/.44-.44mag combo's.

The .38 & .44 are both S&W revolvers & Marlin 1894's. The .22 is a Ruger Combo with a 10/22 and a Mark III Hunter.

 

[Just Jim]

I can see how in some cases it would be nice to have a rifle and pistol in the same caliber. However if I am going to carry a heavy rifle it will be in something that shoots better than a pistol caliber.

Rifles are about power and handguns are something to use to fight your way to your rifles should you have to.

jj

 

[Big Daddy K]

Ruger 44 Mag Carbine and Blackhawk.

A lever gun would be even cooler cause you could shoot 44 special too.

10/22 and Single Six.

Last but not least, well yea it is least my little C-9 and 995.

 

[mainmech48]

To me, all firearms are all about hitting your target.

Almost everybody I've ever met can do that better with a longarm than a sidearm at any range.

IMO, having a tool which extends the distance at which you can consistently make good hits is a Good Thing, regardless of relative power.

For me, and I think many other folks, that's one of the major charms this arrangement: It greatly extends the effective reach I can get out of something I already use.

For a lot of people the concept has the much the same practical appeal that it did in 1875 or 6 when Colt decided to start chambering the SAA in .44 WCF. It basically increased the amount of utility they got for the money they had to spend.

An 1873 Winchester might not've been ideal for every task they'd possibly face, but it'd do more of them at least adequately well than about anything else they could get, and do it with the ammo they could most often be able to both find and afford. Having their sidearm capable of using the same stuff just made it better. Kind of the exact reverse of today, but I think the analogy still holds.

A revolver caliber carbine wouldn't be my first choice to fight with, but if I had to fight I'd sure rather do it from a greater distance than I could with just a revolver. The way I see it, it'd almost triple the potential range at which I could expect to effectively engage an adversary successfully.

It wouldn't be my first choice for medium game either. But I'd have a heckuva lot better chance of being able to put venison on the family menu with one than I would without it.

It ain't about a carbine being a substitute for a "real" rifle; it's about it being a complement a handgun that you already use by giving you the option of accurate delivery of a bullet at that power level over a longer distance.

In most of my daily life I don't really have much to do that requires a "heavy rifle". On the occasion that I do, I will generally be carrying one.

On the other hand, I do a bunch of things that a light, handy longarm of moderate power is real good for. That's why I have those, too.

 

[grimjaw]

You could even go one step further and get a pistol/rifle combination that share the same magazines, like a Camp Carbine 45 and a 1911, or a Ruger PC-series and one of their P-series pistols, not to mention the Keltec Sub2000 series.

jm

 

[BMacklem]

I recently purchased a Walther P22, and a Marlin 794 at Gander Mountain for the express purpose of teaching the wife how to shoot.
I haven't had the chance to shoot the Marlin yet, but all in due time.

That's a pretty basic combo, and the only thing I have that shoots the same ammo.

I do want to get a Beratta CX4 Storm to compliment my PX4 9mm handgun, those not only take the same ammo, but use the same magazines, can't beat that.

For further home protection I have a nice Superior Arms AR15 in .223.

And the piece-de-resistance.... a wonderful Mossberg 500 jic (just in case).

For me, that is the best of all possible worlds, and I think I have about all the bases covered....... for now

I know I could have gotten better prices than what I picked all of them up for, but they were all there, and all new in box, so I figured what the hell... save a few bucks, or take them home now.... I chose to get the P22, Marlin, and Mossberg all at the same time and place.
Now just to figure out how to pay for them all, and find the time to take the wife out shooting.... oh, btw, learning how to shoot was all her idea, and she loves the P22.

 

[yokel]

Beretta CX4 Storm in .45 ACP and 1911A1

Noninterchangeable magazines could be a significant drawback, however, in an extremely serious situation such as dissolution of civil order i'll reach for my M1 rifle and holstered side arm.

 

[Moonclip]

I'd like to do it in .30carbine, heck I can! I forgot to add that in my original post. I guess I do like the concept!

 

[thunder173]

Oop's found anuther one! Marlin 9mm Camp Carbine and a Keltec P-11....same mags(S&W 59's).....

 

[Kosh75287]

Rossi M1892 Rifle (carbine?) w 20" barrel in .45 Colt. Ruger Redhawk 7.5" barrel in .45 Colt. I'm working up a load for both. From the Redhawk, I want 250grains at 1100 f/s. If it goes faster out of the carbine (and it probably will), that's a nice bonus.

 

[trinydex]

9mm ar and 9mm pistol would be pretty cool. not too expensive either.

does a 9mm out of an ar length barrel defeat level 3 armor?

 

[scotjute]

The pistol caliber rifles are usually short and handy. They are typically effective out to 100 yds or so. You can carry one in a vehicle (depending on state of course)without any restrictions. They help simplify your ammo carry. They both increase the range and power acheived for the ammo over a pistol. They are very effective for self-defense. They don't have the evil look of an assault rifle (at least not if they are in lever-action).