Savage 24V series d refuses to break open

[AZmark]

Just a thought but could someone have chambered the wrong caliber round in it years ago and got it stuck. Its a 222 so a 223 or a 222 magnum should not chamber since the shoulders are further forward, BUT could someone have forced one in? Also someone may have chambered something wrong that would fit in it like a 221 fireball?

Years ago I had my FIL get a Win 94 action jammed by loading it with 30 carbine cartridges.

 

[Bljacque]

Interesting that you bring this up. I hadn't mentioned it earlier but amongst the "stuff" that came with the rifle I found a couple of 22-250 cases. The possibility of miss loading didn't immediately occur to me as the individual who owned the fiarm was thoroughly familiar with firearms. However, I did contact the gunsmith & told him about it. As I said earlier, I'll post whatever the gunsmith finds.

 

[troy fairweather]

Would be a good magic trick fitting a 22-250 into and 222 chamber.

 

[Bljacque]

That & the firearm familiarity of the original owner is pretty much why it hadn't occurred to me. Nevertheless, worth looking at even if simply to eliminate that particular possibility.

 

[jdsingleshot]

JFTR, if the pins go out toward the left, that is the only gun I have heard of in 50 years of tinkering where that is true.

 

[Bljacque]

Just to let everyone know, resolution of my 24V situation will take a bit longer. Seems my gunsmith has landed in the hospital. So if I don't post for awhile on the issue you know the reason.

 

[Bljacque]

As promised I'm back to report.
As things turned out, my gunsmith was not able to work on my 24V anytime soon so I retrieved it intending to take it to another gunsmith. However, while the rifle was waiting in the shop I kept researching & came across this recommendation: "using a hook, pull the locking block rearwards. This will unlock the barrels for removal from the receiver." Well after sitting at my table staring at the recalcitrant rifle I decided to give it a shot. Lo & behold, after some tugging & yes, cursing, I was able to get it to break open! There was no cartridge in either barrel & nothing I could discern as being the cause of its refusal to break open. I cleaned & oiled all I could reach then reclosed the action. No joy! When I tried to open it, it refused one again to open. However I now know how to open it & did so. I've looked for burrs, parts dragging, pinching, etc. but no luck thus far. Though I have nothing to compare it to, I will say that it seems to take excessive force to close the action. More than my 12ga over under & any singles I've owned. So by way of update, I can report progress but no final solution yet. I have learned that while not chronic problem with the 24Vs, it happens enough that it's well recognized so I remain hopeful I'll find a solution.

 

[jdsingleshot]

Does the release lever move but do nothing, or does it refuse to move? Sounds like you have a disconnect in the linkage, since you are able to open it with a hook.

Have you taken the buttstock off so you can see the innards?

 

[Bljacque]

A picture (or several) being worth a thousand words, I have attached 4 pics of my 24V barrels & receiver with pencil pointing to items of interest. In the pic of the frame assy the pencil is pointing to an area that had a raised ridge (shiny area). I guessed that this ridge was a defect & I used jeweler's files to flatten it out. Hence the "shiny" area. I can't say for sure that this did or did not contribute to the firearm refusing to open but I'm at the point that any anomaly is suspect. After I polished/flattened the "ridge" I found I could break open the firearm but upon wanting to close the firearm, it was necessary to hold the top snap (opening lever) just as if I were opening in order to get it to close again. Essentially causing the locking bolt to withdraw into the frame assy to permit the firearm to fully close. Perhaps is is normal for the 24Vs? After re-attaching the foreend I found that I could not get the firearm to close. Closer inspection showed that the extractor lever (see pic with pencil pointing to extractor lever) was being jammed by the roll pin mounted cross ways in the hinge pin (see pic with pencil pointing to roll pin). No idea why but such was the case. I checked for a bend in the extractor lever, problems with the roll pin or the hinge pin but nothing noted. For the present, with foreend & stock replaced my 24V appears to be opening & closing normally. That said, I haven't fired it yet & time will tell if it will continue to function correctly. As I had said in an earlier post, this propensity to refuse to break open doesn't seem to be exactly rare with the 24Vs.