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Savage 24v series c .222 over 20 G

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  1. Huntolive

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    I'm thinking of trading for a Savage 24v series c or series d over under and 222 caliber over 20 gauge.
    The trade will likely be for a partially converted Russian Saiga 308 in excellent condition with 1 mag. The only conversions to it or it has all black furniture and accepts double stack mags.

    What are the merits of the Savage 24v other than the obvious flexibility of the 222 over the 20 gauge?
    how good are these rifles and what is their current value in very good but clearly used condition?
    What is the difference and relative value of the series c versus the series d?

    The receiver of the series c the metal is discolored, perhaps intentional by manufacturer like unsung old heat tempered metal, or looks like how oil looks in a puddle. is that an issue or is that something that was a feature of the rifle?
    Looks like it could make fun turkey hunting gun for my 9 year old or just a cool and useful once in awhile hunting gun and collectible.
    But the Russian Saiga seems to have much more potential to go up in value.
     
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  2. GooseGestapo

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    I had one. .222 would walk groups badly. Unless you waited 5min between shots, groups would walk up and to the right. 5-shot groups were 10-12” at 100yds.
    I sold it.
    I’d keep the Saiga.
     
  3. Merle1

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    I believe what you are seeing is color case hardening, which is purely for cosmetic purposes and does not harden the metal....
     
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  4. Gordon
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    The V series are very good, they are accurate but not target rifles. My .223 x 20ga 24V has a 1-3x weaver scope, as it IS a shotgun too, and can get 1 1/2" groups with 45 grain ammo at 100 yards from a sandbag. They are worth $500+- depending on condition. Mine being a rare .223 with easy to get ammo is worth $600. Make sure you get some magazines for a .308 Saiga ! They aren't easy to come by in my experience , I had a Zastava one and I liked it and liked the wood stock too.
     
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  5. jmorris

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    Will be kind of heavy for a 9 year old.
     
  6. Huntolive

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    Yes, it will be heavy
    But he won't start w that.
    Does this come in a 243 and 20 gauge combo also the 223 sounds perfect
     
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    I think the 223 is the largest caliber on the 20ga frame. There were some later production 308/12ga's made I believe.

    Mines 22Mag/20ga and handles wonderfully for me wearing just the irons.
     
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  8. Huntolive

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    Sounds good
    I have a similar Rifle that a 30-30 over 20 g
    I'll have to I'll have to double-check what model it is but I'm pretty sure it's a Savage
     
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  9. Huntolive

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    How does 22 Magnum power compare to 222?
     
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    I've had about every version of the 24 extant. Have a 24DL and a 24V now. Biggest problem is heavy triggers and high combs. Made in 222, 223, 357, 30-30, and maybe a few others. People are touting the 223 as a deer caliber and I'm a little skeptical, but the 222 is only a couple hundred f/s behind it. I take mine down to the farm off season for coyote, woodchuck, crow, and a couple other things I consider vermin when they dam up my creek. Value, we have sold several at $500 plus. Not made any more and the replacement is pug ugly. Mine shoots inside 2" with 55 grain factory Remington, a little better with 55 gr Sierra handloads. Minimum 30 seconds between shots. Wish they had the full length brazed barrels like the old ones.
     
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    IMHO, the best 24s are the older models with the barrels brazed together for their full length. I had a 24E-DL 22Mag/20 gauge for a lot of years. It was a great squirrel getter.

    On the other hand, I’ve never been a fan of the center fire chambered combos. Personal preference of course, but unless you’re paying for a drilling, you just won’t get near a cartridge’s accuracy potential with a combo.
     
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    You're trading away a .308 Saiga for a Savage 24V? You sure you want to let that Saiga go? The .308s were good shooters. Mine shoots MOA and, as I recall, isn't fussy about ammo.
     
  14. MI2600

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    I bought an early model .22LR over 20 ga a few years ago, harking back to my youthful squirrel hunting days. Fired it once. Nice little combination.
     
  15. DM~

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    The 12/308's were 2400 models, a MUCH better gun in MANY ways and was not built by Savage, it was made in Finland by Valmet.

    The 2400's are a mile better than the 24's...

    DM
     
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    222 Rem/20 ga is a great combo. I believe there was a 30-30/20 but the 30-30 may have only been available on the 12 ga frame. Anything the 223 will do, the 222 will do better. None of the 223 barrels in the 24V will have been fast twist, so both max out in the 55grs range and, for shooting rodents and foxes and coyotes, the 222 does it with slightly less recoil and powder.

    The rifle is a 100 yard proposition. It’s a woodswalking/fill the pot gun, not a long range, tactikewl whatever. What a fantastic present for your boy when he fills out a bit! Enjoy.
     
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    I had one of these ; a 24V in .357 Max over 20 gauge . I the 80s I gave it away to a traveling Evangelist from New Zealand , last name Coad I believe, after he went out of his way to council me and ex wife. We stayed together until kids left for college a couple years later. I had a .357 Max T/C barrel and was awed by it and wondered what it would do in a 24" barrel ! AS I remember it was ast least as powerful as a 30-30 and it could use .38 specials ! He had a Ruger Blackhawk .357 that he was given by a grateful Texan so I gave him the 3x Leupold scoped 24V to go with it . He wrote me of how great it was to hunt with all over the Northwest and he returned to NZ and continued to enjoy it last time I heard from him in mid 90s. He said he shot it with .357 Mag ammo in NZ as he couldn't get .357 Max :). This one sold for $1400, I guess they only made a few.
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  18. RovinOn

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    Still have a 24V series....30-30 over 20. It’s a great rifle, bought in when I needed a deer rifle and at the time I didn’t have much money. It shot well and served the purpose.
    My son used it for his first deer rifle.
     
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  19. Dave DeLaurant

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    I had one for about 25 years in this same configuration. The lockup was loose when I bought it, so I had Savage install a new set of barrels at the factory back in the early 1990s. This new .223 barrel would hold a good 4-5 shot group, so I mounted a cheap, compact Simmons Deerfield 4x scope on it. I only fired a handful of slugs through the 20 ga barrel just to see where they printed. I recently sold it when the used price got high enough to turn a profit.

    The model 24 has a tendency to break the firing pin return spring on the rifle barrel -- not as big a deal as it sounds. I recall an article somewhere in which the writer suggested replacing the coil spring with a spongy foam doughnut that he stated lasted longer. Mine worked fine with the broken spring.
     
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  20. jmorris

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    I machined an insert for the best “regulated” 24 I have. Makes it a 22/20ga/38/357.

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  21. gotboostvr

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    How long of a barrel is your insert and how close to the sights does it shoot? I might pick one up for mine.
     
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    It’s around 9” long and windage its perfect (considering it’s not very accurate at around 2” groups at 25 yards), elevation depends on the load.

    I machined it from the drop off another project I had saved.
     
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  23. DM~

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    Yeaaa, that's the biggest thing about Savage combo guns, most have poor to VERY poor regulation! (except the Valmet made 2400's)

    That's one BIG reason I never kept any that I have owned.

    DM
     
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  24. Merle1

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    guess I've been lucky - I have four of them - two rimfires and two M24V - and they are all well regulated......
     
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    I've had 5...

    What do you call well regulated??

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