twoblink
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Was reading a review that said it's the best thing since sliced bread.
any owners care to comment on it?
Does it really break as cleanly as said?
any owners care to comment on it?
Does it really break as cleanly as said?
Savage AccuTrigger?
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I've dry-fired these in stores and really like the new trigger. Definately a desired option if you're looking into these rifles, or any brand, I guess. If I was going to purchase a precision-style, sporting rifle I'd probably cinsider this new Savage Model 10FP-LE2B first. It also has the Accu trigger.
FWIW-I don't own a Savage rifle, but have never had anything bad to say about them. I've seen some(most) that were excellant shooters.
FWIW-I don't own a Savage rifle, but have never had anything bad to say about them. I've seen some(most) that were excellant shooters.
dbshabo
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I bought the Savage FP10-LE2B pictured above last summer for $758.00 NIB. It's the first precision type rifle I have owned so I can't compare it to anything else out there. I can say that I am very pleased with the performance of this rifle. I can easily get MOA accuracy with it at 100yds using match grade ammo (expensive) and a Harris bipod without the aid of a rear bag.
The AccuTrigger is sweet. I have yet to adjust it, I do want to take it down a bit. I believe it has an adjustment range of 1.5lb - 4.5lb or something in that range. Again I haven't used any other make of custom trigger so I can't compare. I have fired guns with bad triggers and I do know the difference between a good trigger and a bad trigger. The AccuTrigger is a good trigger with a crisp break.
Shabo
The AccuTrigger is sweet. I have yet to adjust it, I do want to take it down a bit. I believe it has an adjustment range of 1.5lb - 4.5lb or something in that range. Again I haven't used any other make of custom trigger so I can't compare. I have fired guns with bad triggers and I do know the difference between a good trigger and a bad trigger. The AccuTrigger is a good trigger with a crisp break.
Shabo
Ditto on the dryfiring at stores. I am a closet savage fan, and the trigger only increased my love for them. Amazingly crisp and light! I know it looks kinda odd with the little plunger deal on it, but hey! If it works, who cares?!? They not only blew away their old trigger, they pretty much blew away everything else out there as far as factory rifles go.
I plan on one of the 12BVSS rifles as my next purchase. Dealer priced it to me at $550. Fred over at Savage Supply has Savage barrels for $225 a pop. If I get the rifle chambered in .223, the .300 Whisper uses the same bolt face as the .223, so (thanks to Savage's wonderfully designed barrel nut) I can have a precision rifle that's convertable between .223 and .300 Whisper in just a matter of minutes!
All I can say is....sweet.
SC
I plan on one of the 12BVSS rifles as my next purchase. Dealer priced it to me at $550. Fred over at Savage Supply has Savage barrels for $225 a pop. If I get the rifle chambered in .223, the .300 Whisper uses the same bolt face as the .223, so (thanks to Savage's wonderfully designed barrel nut) I can have a precision rifle that's convertable between .223 and .300 Whisper in just a matter of minutes!
All I can say is....sweet.
SC
Master Blaster
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I have one and I love it!!!!
Savage FP10 LE2 26"
The trigger is excellent, mine came adjusted to 1.25 lbs (according to my FFLs hang weights), the safety block makes it feel like a two stage match trigger.
I also have an Anschutz 64 MPR with a two stage trigger (1lb 1st stage, 10 oz release). The trigger on the savage is as good as the trigger on my Anschutz.
I have not done any adjustment to the Savage trigger, I am able with a bipod to do .5 inch 5 shot groups at 100 yards with 43 grains of IMR 4064 and a 165 gr Sierra match king HPBT. I am not a very good shot. the first three rounds are usually in almost the same hole.
I think that this trigger willl FORCE all the other manufacturers of factory rifles to change their ways.
This is an outstanding development by Savage which I applaud!!!!!
Savage FP10 LE2 26"
The trigger is excellent, mine came adjusted to 1.25 lbs (according to my FFLs hang weights), the safety block makes it feel like a two stage match trigger.
I also have an Anschutz 64 MPR with a two stage trigger (1lb 1st stage, 10 oz release). The trigger on the savage is as good as the trigger on my Anschutz.
I have not done any adjustment to the Savage trigger, I am able with a bipod to do .5 inch 5 shot groups at 100 yards with 43 grains of IMR 4064 and a 165 gr Sierra match king HPBT. I am not a very good shot. the first three rounds are usually in almost the same hole.
I think that this trigger willl FORCE all the other manufacturers of factory rifles to change their ways.
This is an outstanding development by Savage which I applaud!!!!!
ocabj
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I own a Savage 10FP-LE1A (26" generic stock option) w/ Accutrigger.
I swapped out the stock with a McMillan A-5.
Bushnell 10x40mm Mildot, Ken Farrell 1-Piece, Burris Signature Zee Rings.
I took the Accutrigger as low as it would go, about 1 lb 6 oz according to RCBS gauge. I then backed it up to roughly 2lbs, or just under it. It's a crisp break. I don't know how good the lock time compares to other to manufacturers since this was my first and only bolt gun.
My handloads in this gun are 44.6gr Varget + 175 SMK and 42.0gr H4895 + 175 SMK.
I swapped out the stock with a McMillan A-5.
Bushnell 10x40mm Mildot, Ken Farrell 1-Piece, Burris Signature Zee Rings.
I took the Accutrigger as low as it would go, about 1 lb 6 oz according to RCBS gauge. I then backed it up to roughly 2lbs, or just under it. It's a crisp break. I don't know how good the lock time compares to other to manufacturers since this was my first and only bolt gun.
My handloads in this gun are 44.6gr Varget + 175 SMK and 42.0gr H4895 + 175 SMK.
Just needs an aftermarket stock. Savage triggers are no longer a liability.
I've got mine turned way down as well, and it's a very, very nice trigger. My 700 PSS has a better trigger, but that one was worked on by a smith.
Don't be dissuaded by the Glock-like thingy on the trigger, either. After a few shots, you wont even notice it any more. It's a non-issue.
I've got mine turned way down as well, and it's a very, very nice trigger. My 700 PSS has a better trigger, but that one was worked on by a smith.
Don't be dissuaded by the Glock-like thingy on the trigger, either. After a few shots, you wont even notice it any more. It's a non-issue.
Poodleshooter
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If I recall the experience correctly, while dryfiring the accutrigger, I noticed that the "glock like thingy" doesn't work as a safety feature. I pulled the side of the trigger and was able to dry fire it (or so it seemed). Maybe it blocks the firing pin if it's not depressed? It was a really great trigger, crisp with not too much overtravel, and a much lighter pull weight than I have felt on any other production rifle. It felt even better than the Tikka that I handled at the same time.
Lennyjoe
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I picked up a Savage 110 last week but it didnt have the Accutrigger.
The one on it though is pretty light. I just might put in an aftermarket one that I can adjust though.
Gonna take it out to the range again next weekend and give it another run before I decide to change the trigger.
The one on it though is pretty light. I just might put in an aftermarket one that I can adjust though.
Gonna take it out to the range again next weekend and give it another run before I decide to change the trigger.
bought a 10FLPE1, 20" barrel 308 as my first bolt gun.
the rifle's trigger and accuracy are fantastic. just need to change the stock.
poodleshooter, the 'glocky' thing does act as a safety device.
I tried posting the pdf file, but it was too big.
heres the link to it. it gives a complete, pictured description.
http://www.savagearms.com/images/pdf/pressReleases/firearms/Accutrigger.pdf
the rifle's trigger and accuracy are fantastic. just need to change the stock.
poodleshooter, the 'glocky' thing does act as a safety device.
I tried posting the pdf file, but it was too big.
heres the link to it. it gives a complete, pictured description.
http://www.savagearms.com/images/pdf/pressReleases/firearms/Accutrigger.pdf
twoblink
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Are the Savages based on a Mauser type action?
Smokey Joe
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Savage Accu-trigger
Bought a new 12BVSS in .300WSM last summer. Used it hunting last fall. It is a bi*** to lug around but boy is it steady to shoot. And I buy guns so as to shoot them. Plan to use this one mostly for hunting from a blind or stand.
Thought I'd be replacing the accu-trigger, but to my surprise that wasn't necessary. The trigger as it came from the factory has a crisp, light pull and a clean break. The extra thingy on the trigger stopped being an issue inside of the first 10 shots. It is much easier to adapt to than, say, a military 2-stage trigger.
Am still working on the most accurate loading for the gun, but found one before season that was <moa so that was that for the time being.
I do not like Savage's tang safety. A nice big hunk of metal up by the bolt like a Rem 700, or a Mauser, or a Win 70, or an Enfield is much preferable. Tang safeties belong on shotguns. But I can live with it.
Stock on the 12BVSS fits me ok so I'll leave that alone.
The rifle is accurate. Col. Whelen would approve.
Bought a new 12BVSS in .300WSM last summer. Used it hunting last fall. It is a bi*** to lug around but boy is it steady to shoot. And I buy guns so as to shoot them. Plan to use this one mostly for hunting from a blind or stand.
Thought I'd be replacing the accu-trigger, but to my surprise that wasn't necessary. The trigger as it came from the factory has a crisp, light pull and a clean break. The extra thingy on the trigger stopped being an issue inside of the first 10 shots. It is much easier to adapt to than, say, a military 2-stage trigger.
Am still working on the most accurate loading for the gun, but found one before season that was <moa so that was that for the time being.
I do not like Savage's tang safety. A nice big hunk of metal up by the bolt like a Rem 700, or a Mauser, or a Win 70, or an Enfield is much preferable. Tang safeties belong on shotguns. But I can live with it.
Stock on the 12BVSS fits me ok so I'll leave that alone.
The rifle is accurate. Col. Whelen would approve.
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The trigger is all that and a bag of chips. NOTE-I am by no means a rifleman.
I bought my first bolt action rifle this year-a Savage Model 10 with the 20 inch barrel, put a Leupold 3x9 VX II (should have spent a little more and got mil-dots) and proceeded to shoot a 1 inch group at 100 yards w port surplus ammo, seated from a bench.
The trigger (from the box at 2.5 pounds) makes it very easy. Its all I know, but it seem like the way to go. It also felt familar as I shoot a glock.
I bought my first bolt action rifle this year-a Savage Model 10 with the 20 inch barrel, put a Leupold 3x9 VX II (should have spent a little more and got mil-dots) and proceeded to shoot a 1 inch group at 100 yards w port surplus ammo, seated from a bench.
The trigger (from the box at 2.5 pounds) makes it very easy. Its all I know, but it seem like the way to go. It also felt familar as I shoot a glock.
love my Savage with the Acutrigger!!
it is not a trigger saftey, in that if you pull on the sides of the trigger (as you did) it will not stop you. What it does is stop the hammer from falling all the way if the blade is not pulled back. It will fall some, requring you to raise the bolt and put it back down to reset the hammer in order to fire (if the hammer is resting on the little blade thing, which you can tell because it won't move then).
it is not a trigger saftey, in that if you pull on the sides of the trigger (as you did) it will not stop you. What it does is stop the hammer from falling all the way if the blade is not pulled back. It will fall some, requring you to raise the bolt and put it back down to reset the hammer in order to fire (if the hammer is resting on the little blade thing, which you can tell because it won't move then).
Detritus
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Actually the two triggers that SSS sells pick up where the accu-trigger leave off with regard to "filling the niches the "competition" has a high setting below that of the A-T's lightest setting, and still utilizes the regular safety. and the "Benchrest" is so light it's scary, and since it negates the safety, is meant for use by SERIOUS benchrest/target folks in dedicated guns where no round in teh chamber with open bolt is the safety
Also there is a portion of SSS's "customer base" that wouldn't be satisfied with a factory trigger if it was functionally perfect and spit out a golden egg with each full firing cycle.... folks that like to tinker with things, or simply want something that the factory units still don't provide. even the accu-trigger won't satisfy those who can't live without the likes of the "benchrest" (ie 4-14oz pull and the safety don't work).
with this in mind, Last year Fred sent out a set of instructions with each trigger on how to trim off a portion of the sidewalls of the assembly to make the then extant triggers work with Accu-trigger receivers, and this year Accu-trigger variations of both the Competition and Benchrest triggers (all production since i think late 2003 has been the accu-trigger compatible type that will also fit pre accu-trigger guns, only units made prior to that will/would need to be modified).
so Fred is not crying about this, he's STILL selling triggers, maybe not as many as before the accu-trigger, but they are still moving. and the trigger business isn't ALL of SharpShooter's Supply theyve got EVERYTHING you'd ever want for a Savage project.
if any of you haven't seen it you ought to visit their WEBSITE .
Detritus
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oh almost forgot the comparison.
Accu-trigger, easily adjustable from 6 down to 2 1/2 lbs, comes already on the gun, and has a rather positive secondary safety system. better than 90%+ of the factory triggers out there, in fact probably better and safer while being that much smoother and lighter, than many of the triggers found on custom or otherwise "tuned" hunting field use guns.
SSS "competition" does not have the second safety of the accu-trigger, pulls range starts where the Factory unit leaves off goes from 2lbs down to 12oz, from what i have seen and heard amoung the guys at the savageshooters.com forums reliably uses the existing factory safety. is fully adjustable for all the various things a shooter might want to tinker with ona trigger
SSS "Benchrest" superlite "target gun only" trigger 14-4oz the safety no longer works, thus the reason why it's a "bench/target shooter only" trigger. i can't imagine ever being able to USE one of these, my pulse would set it off!!
it's a "different strokes for different folks" type of thing
Accu-trigger, easily adjustable from 6 down to 2 1/2 lbs, comes already on the gun, and has a rather positive secondary safety system. better than 90%+ of the factory triggers out there, in fact probably better and safer while being that much smoother and lighter, than many of the triggers found on custom or otherwise "tuned" hunting field use guns.
SSS "competition" does not have the second safety of the accu-trigger, pulls range starts where the Factory unit leaves off goes from 2lbs down to 12oz, from what i have seen and heard amoung the guys at the savageshooters.com forums reliably uses the existing factory safety. is fully adjustable for all the various things a shooter might want to tinker with ona trigger
SSS "Benchrest" superlite "target gun only" trigger 14-4oz the safety no longer works, thus the reason why it's a "bench/target shooter only" trigger. i can't imagine ever being able to USE one of these, my pulse would set it off!!
it's a "different strokes for different folks" type of thing
The Accu-trigger does not actually do anything for the trigger pull. What it does is provide a means of keeping the rifle from firing if the trigger pull is set too light and jars off. It performs exactly the same function as the half-cock notch on a Model 1911 pistol. The Accu-trigger mechanism itself does nothing to alter or change the trigger pull.
But with the Accu-trigger, Savage is now able to set the trigger pull lighter, knowing that the Accu-trigger will keep the rifle from firing accidentally and, not incidentally, keep the company from being sued.
Jim
But with the Accu-trigger, Savage is now able to set the trigger pull lighter, knowing that the Accu-trigger will keep the rifle from firing accidentally and, not incidentally, keep the company from being sued.
Jim
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Accu-trigger, lawyers, and Savage
Jim—That was Savage's aim in developing the Accu-trigger, according to company press releases. They wanted a trigger that was crisp, no creep,, user-adjustable, and lawyer-proof. IMHO, they have succeeded quite nicely.
Now if they could just move that stupid safety...
Jim—That was Savage's aim in developing the Accu-trigger, according to company press releases. They wanted a trigger that was crisp, no creep,, user-adjustable, and lawyer-proof. IMHO, they have succeeded quite nicely.
Now if they could just move that stupid safety...
Detritus
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that safety is part of why the savages are both less expensive AND so widely available in left-handed actions. with the tang safety the same trigger and safety group can be used to build either orientation of rifle, thus that many fewer "southpaw specific" parts or manufacturing steps.
and just my opinion being where it is, it is much less likely to snag on something and cause problems or "snag-off" (get flipped to fire accidentally) than say the safety of a Rem700. and i actually hate the Mauser/winchester/Ruger "wing" safeties, it's just not a natural movement from safe to fire with those designs, for me.
but as always if we was all alike, life would be dull!
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How do you think the Accutrigger system will hold up under the abuse of hunting in the frozen north? I was in the market for a Tikka T3, but am holding off while I consider a Savage. I already own one Savage, a mid-1930s Model 99 chambered for .300 Savage. That is my woods gun, but I need a rifle that will accept a scope (don't want to start screwing around with the classic lines of the old 99 by bolting on a side mount).
Where I hunt deer it can be -20 F in November and fragile gun designs aren't terribly popular. The Accutrigger device looks a bit vulnerable. Anyone had any experiences with these in extreme weather conditions?
Where I hunt deer it can be -20 F in November and fragile gun designs aren't terribly popular. The Accutrigger device looks a bit vulnerable. Anyone had any experiences with these in extreme weather conditions?
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