SC Officer shot 4 times in the back and killed - investigation continuing
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Wow.Sportcat said:
That's a life sentence for Mr. Rye.
I had told my wife's family that he was going to have a lot of trouble in court because of the fact that it was a cop that he shot, and that the shots in the back were going to make it even worse. I guess I was right.
Hm.
Now I am really confused. Usually after a trial I understand the case better, and almost always am able to see how the jury got to their result, even if I would have voted differently. In this case, what I have read about it and the jury verdict don't seem to fit. At the most, it seems like a manslaughter case, not murder. 30 years on this set of facts seems most unreasonable.
Now I am really confused. Usually after a trial I understand the case better, and almost always am able to see how the jury got to their result, even if I would have voted differently. In this case, what I have read about it and the jury verdict don't seem to fit. At the most, it seems like a manslaughter case, not murder. 30 years on this set of facts seems most unreasonable.
Yeah, and I am not sure if there is any grounds for appeal either. I agree that is was likely the "cop" and "shots in the back" that did. It is still disappointing to see this happen to the guy. Based on what I have seen, I think I would have had to hang that jury (vote not guilty) if I was on it.
sonofsamwifey
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Who makes the Laws in this State????
Okay, has anyone thought of this entire situation, picture this, you own some property, you fence it in, you post no trespassing signs, you think your family is safe. Then someone decides to jump the fence and come on your property and start having target practice with your family pets. . . . and that’s okay, go figure. Oh but I guess cats fall in the same category as women and domestic violence does, S.C. is against "Cock Fighting" but it is okay to kill some ones family member, yes a cat, a dog, a bird, a fish, it is a part of someone's family.
This man had every right in the world to shoot, kill, and even dig a grave for the man on his property. They had absolutely no right to be there or shoot at his cats, you play with fire and you must get burned.
If I understand correctly, Grover is a 60 year old man with no prior police record, not even a parking ticket??? and you people give him 30 years in jail, for protecting what is his???? I wonder what "PETA" would think about this entire situation, you know the animal rights people, animals have rights too! It is true, this was a senseless crime, committed by a senseless 22 year old boy with a badge and a license to carry a gun. . .
Cats as well as all other animals are God's creations, this man was protecting his family. . . The jury needs their heads examined. . . .and the family of the deceased, well I am just glad Grover did what he did before this young man decided to target practice on people. . . .
My heart goes out to the Rye Family
Okay, has anyone thought of this entire situation, picture this, you own some property, you fence it in, you post no trespassing signs, you think your family is safe. Then someone decides to jump the fence and come on your property and start having target practice with your family pets. . . . and that’s okay, go figure. Oh but I guess cats fall in the same category as women and domestic violence does, S.C. is against "Cock Fighting" but it is okay to kill some ones family member, yes a cat, a dog, a bird, a fish, it is a part of someone's family.
This man had every right in the world to shoot, kill, and even dig a grave for the man on his property. They had absolutely no right to be there or shoot at his cats, you play with fire and you must get burned.
If I understand correctly, Grover is a 60 year old man with no prior police record, not even a parking ticket??? and you people give him 30 years in jail, for protecting what is his???? I wonder what "PETA" would think about this entire situation, you know the animal rights people, animals have rights too! It is true, this was a senseless crime, committed by a senseless 22 year old boy with a badge and a license to carry a gun. . .
Cats as well as all other animals are God's creations, this man was protecting his family. . . The jury needs their heads examined. . . .and the family of the deceased, well I am just glad Grover did what he did before this young man decided to target practice on people. . . .
My heart goes out to the Rye Family
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Excuse me, but I wasn't on the jury.
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Unbelievable
I have been at the trial everyday this week. I can not believe the results (jury’s verdict). Grover is a good man whom was just protecting HIMSELF. Yes he was upset for all the break ins and killings of his pets but the fact still remains, he was being shot and when him and the victim came face to face he felt his life was at risk (two young boys with guns in their hands. He was shot at three times as he was making his way up on his property. I am truly sorry for the victims family however I believe if the Sheriffs department would have done their job this would not of happen. Grover had made several reports to the cops about someone on his property killing his cats, breaking into his barn and breaking into his house. Grover Rye does NOT deserve what he is being sentenced for. I wish all of you knew Grover and his family, great people. They would give you the shirt off their back if you needed one.
I am not sure what will come of this but I hope he is set free. The prosecution presented evidence the second day of the trial. Yes, the defense was never given this information. One of the investigators "forgot" to turn in his file and the file was never taken into discovery meaning the second day of trial was the first time the defense "Grover’s attorney" had ever seen this information which was brought in as evidence.
I just believe we have an innocent man in jail right now : (
I have been at the trial everyday this week. I can not believe the results (jury’s verdict). Grover is a good man whom was just protecting HIMSELF. Yes he was upset for all the break ins and killings of his pets but the fact still remains, he was being shot and when him and the victim came face to face he felt his life was at risk (two young boys with guns in their hands. He was shot at three times as he was making his way up on his property. I am truly sorry for the victims family however I believe if the Sheriffs department would have done their job this would not of happen. Grover had made several reports to the cops about someone on his property killing his cats, breaking into his barn and breaking into his house. Grover Rye does NOT deserve what he is being sentenced for. I wish all of you knew Grover and his family, great people. They would give you the shirt off their back if you needed one.
I am not sure what will come of this but I hope he is set free. The prosecution presented evidence the second day of the trial. Yes, the defense was never given this information. One of the investigators "forgot" to turn in his file and the file was never taken into discovery meaning the second day of trial was the first time the defense "Grover’s attorney" had ever seen this information which was brought in as evidence.
I just believe we have an innocent man in jail right now : (
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WOW, what a travesty 
I can't honestly say I'm surprised at the outcome. I lived in Beaufort and Port Royal for 4.5 years. When I lived there, there were more police per capita than in Los Angeles County, Calif. Every single one of them under the age of 40 I met or dealt with was cocky and had an air of "I'm above the law".
Hopefully he'll win an appeal.
I can't honestly say I'm surprised at the outcome. I lived in Beaufort and Port Royal for 4.5 years. When I lived there, there were more police per capita than in Los Angeles County, Calif. Every single one of them under the age of 40 I met or dealt with was cocky and had an air of "I'm above the law".Hopefully he'll win an appeal.
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yesiam, you said he was shot at three times when he was making his way up the property. was this on the day of the incident in question? I am curious because i dont remember reading that in any other posts.
You also stated the prosecution presented evidence the second day of the trial and the defense was never given this information. What evidence was presented?
You also stated the prosecution presented evidence the second day of the trial and the defense was never given this information. What evidence was presented?
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nitro882 mentioned it in post #146.realmswalker said:
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Its just not right
I agree with you. I am from Beaufort county ( lived there about 7 years) and there is ALOT of young cops with the "cocky" attitude, I am not saying Odom was this way (I did not know him) but for the most part that was just how it was.
Anyways, when I was talking about Grover being shot at yes I was talking about 8/14/04. And it was proven in court that there were that exact amount of bullets missing from his magizine (bullet clip) so Grover was consistant with that.
I agree with you. I am from Beaufort county ( lived there about 7 years) and there is ALOT of young cops with the "cocky" attitude, I am not saying Odom was this way (I did not know him) but for the most part that was just how it was.
Anyways, when I was talking about Grover being shot at yes I was talking about 8/14/04. And it was proven in court that there were that exact amount of bullets missing from his magizine (bullet clip) so Grover was consistant with that.
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Forgot to answer your question
The evidence I believe was like schetches and I am not excatley sure of the rest. It was a thick stack of papers. Grovers attorney tried to argue that it should not be brought in as evidence but it was over ruled.
The evidence I believe was like schetches and I am not excatley sure of the rest. It was a thick stack of papers. Grovers attorney tried to argue that it should not be brought in as evidence but it was over ruled.
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What a frelling hose
I have to wonder if the jury was "instructed" in the law by the court, to the effect that "...if you find the Mr. Rye did indeed shoot, the you MUST convict...".
I have to wonder if the jury was "instructed" in the law by the court, to the effect that "...if you find the Mr. Rye did indeed shoot, the you MUST convict...".
Perhaps the law of man, but not the law of physics, as cretin Odam discovered.
Not to change the subject, BUT
Now that the trial is over, I wonder if the State will charge and prosecute the other 2 for Trespassing, Breaking and Entering and the killing of the cats.
Or were the 2 given some kind of guarentee against prosecution in exchange for their testimony.
the question was asked by the defense as to why there had been no charges brought about and the answer was they were still investigating. Funny how you can solve a murder case faster than a trespassing and breaking and entering case. Investigation should be pretty simply now. He admitted to everything in the witness chair.
Now that the trial is over, I wonder if the State will charge and prosecute the other 2 for Trespassing, Breaking and Entering and the killing of the cats.
Or were the 2 given some kind of guarentee against prosecution in exchange for their testimony.
the question was asked by the defense as to why there had been no charges brought about and the answer was they were still investigating. Funny how you can solve a murder case faster than a trespassing and breaking and entering case. Investigation should be pretty simply now. He admitted to everything in the witness chair.
After reading this entire thread thismorning.....
I AM PISSED!
I cant believe this, i really thought by the time I got to the end of this thread, I wuld read Rye would be aquitted.
Again, I am pissed, shocked, dumbfounded.:banghead:
I admit my reaction is based solely from the information in this thread, but thats what I have.
I would love to know what Masaad Ayoob would say about this...anyone have a way of contacting him, or does anyone know if he has made any statements about this???
I think If it were me, I wouldnt have done what Rye did, but I also believe that what he did was in no way MURDER, in fact it was justified.
I AM PISSED!I cant believe this, i really thought by the time I got to the end of this thread, I wuld read Rye would be aquitted.
Again, I am pissed, shocked, dumbfounded.:banghead:
I admit my reaction is based solely from the information in this thread, but thats what I have.
I would love to know what Masaad Ayoob would say about this...anyone have a way of contacting him, or does anyone know if he has made any statements about this???
I think If it were me, I wouldnt have done what Rye did, but I also believe that what he did was in no way MURDER, in fact it was justified.
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I do know that the boy that was with Odom "Mitchell" admitted to trespassing, shooting the antique car, shooting the cats (several cats) shooting the lock off the barn/shed but he says they never stole anything from the shed......
The defense attorney asked him if he has been charged for any of this and Mitchell said "No".
Then when the state was questioning Mr. Mitchell they asked him has he been told he will not be charged and he said no, that there is still a chance he could get charged. I just don't undertand why he was not charged right away for this, oh I forgot, because at first he lied and said they were not on Grovers property and they were not shooting at cats.. but later he admitted the truth. What makes the jury believe he is not lying now?
Grovers attorney asked Mitchell if he knew the cats that he was shooting were pets, and Mitchell said no he thought they were wild. Then, defense asked him did he see the jugs in the front yard (jugs of cat food that Grover had set up) and Mitchell said yes. Defense attorney then said, Well Mr. Mitchell if you knew someone was feeding these cats then you knew they were someones cats right, Mictchell you are right...................................................
The defense attorney asked him if he has been charged for any of this and Mitchell said "No".
Then when the state was questioning Mr. Mitchell they asked him has he been told he will not be charged and he said no, that there is still a chance he could get charged. I just don't undertand why he was not charged right away for this, oh I forgot, because at first he lied and said they were not on Grovers property and they were not shooting at cats.. but later he admitted the truth. What makes the jury believe he is not lying now?
Grovers attorney asked Mitchell if he knew the cats that he was shooting were pets, and Mitchell said no he thought they were wild. Then, defense asked him did he see the jugs in the front yard (jugs of cat food that Grover had set up) and Mitchell said yes. Defense attorney then said, Well Mr. Mitchell if you knew someone was feeding these cats then you knew they were someones cats right, Mictchell you are right...................................................
MechAg94 said:
It depends on a lot of things: did the investigator's file contain exculpatory evidence or anything that could have swayed the jury; did the defense try to change the venue due to the LE agency's public statements; did the defense make the proper objections; did the evidence actually support the jury's verdict, giving the jury the benefit of the doubt?
CentralTexas
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Sounds like the fix is in....
If this fellow indeed goes away for life, I'm pleased the punk is dead. I'm fairly sure if it was a local kid instead of a cop this guy would walk...
CT
If this fellow indeed goes away for life, I'm pleased the punk is dead. I'm fairly sure if it was a local kid instead of a cop this guy would walk...
CT
NineseveN
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I wish I knew more, but honestly, based on what I have read so far, this is a sick perversion of justice.
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No_Brakes23
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Pretty disappointing verdict. What a perversion of justice.
I won't be moving to SC anytime soon. It certainly appears that LEOs are above the law there.
I won't be moving to SC anytime soon. It certainly appears that LEOs are above the law there.
What pitiful excuses of humans beings you all are.
I am a member of Odam's family. Let me ask if you were there???? I was... all four days and I saw the evidence and know that Rye murdered my friend.
You all speak as if you have some sort of facts to this case and you do not. You take the word of the facts from someone in Rye's family who will feed you whatever you want just to say the system failed. In this case it did not and Rye won't walk out of that prison... he will be rolled out when he dies in there.
We all know that Robb should not have been on that property. But did these folks tell you that Rye had called 911 and was going to wait near the road for the deputies. He hears a shot and then deliberately guns a man down. Robb never shot as him, the weapon was on safe. Rye's family got there planned stories mixed up and it showed on the stands.
Murder = malice and the state proved this. Rye had been lieing in wait before in his deer stand to catch whoever was on his land and told deputies he was going to do what he had to do.
I don't need to come back here to see what you all say. You will continue to believe the lies and speculate on something you don't have a clue about. I hope a jury member will come on here and tell you what they saw.
Those of you glad that someone was killed... I really hope and pray that you get your crap together. Get the facts you fools... repent while you have time. We hope that Grover Rye does.
I am a member of Odam's family. Let me ask if you were there???? I was... all four days and I saw the evidence and know that Rye murdered my friend.
You all speak as if you have some sort of facts to this case and you do not. You take the word of the facts from someone in Rye's family who will feed you whatever you want just to say the system failed. In this case it did not and Rye won't walk out of that prison... he will be rolled out when he dies in there.
We all know that Robb should not have been on that property. But did these folks tell you that Rye had called 911 and was going to wait near the road for the deputies. He hears a shot and then deliberately guns a man down. Robb never shot as him, the weapon was on safe. Rye's family got there planned stories mixed up and it showed on the stands.
Murder = malice and the state proved this. Rye had been lieing in wait before in his deer stand to catch whoever was on his land and told deputies he was going to do what he had to do.
I don't need to come back here to see what you all say. You will continue to believe the lies and speculate on something you don't have a clue about. I hope a jury member will come on here and tell you what they saw.
Those of you glad that someone was killed... I really hope and pray that you get your crap together. Get the facts you fools... repent while you have time. We hope that Grover Rye does.
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