About this time last year, I grabbed a like new G17 for $400 from a guy who shot it once, then stored it away in a box. Absolutely one of my most favorite pistols I've ever owned, and I'm reminded again why I like the Gen2 series of 9mm offerings better than the other ones. The Gen4 is nice, but the reliability and overall quality differences between the 4's and the 2's are a no brainer for me. I also ordered new leather for it from Mitch Rosen and had him do the holster with a Gen2 mold, so it's very tight on the gun with no extra molding from a rail that's not there. It's basically my daily carry, and I love it. I'd grab another for $400 if it were in excellent condition.