Schwarzenegger Groped Hollywood Women

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Hey DaveB, in response to your tagline:

Dear Bill Clinton/Democratic Party,
Thanks for all the help
Wouldn't have been possible without you
Sincerely, Osama bin Laden
 
Uh, I have no love for the Clinton Administration, but IMO the Reagan and Bush I Admins are at least as culpable for the rise of OBL.

Oh, and Saddam Hussein as well.
 
Uh, I have no love for the Clinton Administration, but IMO the Reagan and Bush I Admins are at least as culpable for the rise of OBL.

Oh, and Saddam Hussein as well.

Not only are you correct on that point, Oliver North (who was working the arms for hostage thing at the time with Iran) was so terrified by Bin Laden (his politics and his following) he told the Reagan administration he considered Bin Laden to be the most dangerous man in the world (seriously). North was right, and he was exactly right on what he thought would happen... an Islamic fundamentalist uprising. Gotta give the man credit.

As for hussein: you are correct again. The Reagan adminstration glued on his fangs. They used him to get revenge on Iran for kidnapping our hostages. This was accomplished by giving Iraq 100% free buying access to US arms and Iran was tagged as a "no sale" country. that shifted the war (which Iraq had been losing) and allowed the US to get a measure of revenge without using our own forces. That actually was a pretty slick move.

Problem was, Hussein got off his leash. Iraq was bankrupt after the war because of the debts for arms and could only raise money by selling oil. Hussein commanded the other Arab countries cut oil output so the price would rise, and they (as they always do)went every man for himself.

Hussein decided to intimidate the rest of the Arabs by beating on one of them: he chose Kuwait because it was close (short commute) sits on 15% of the world's oil, and has a seaport. Hussein also believed Bush would not commit troops to defend it, although he knew we would defend the Saudis. Hussein miscalculated about Bush defending Kuwait, and the rest is history.
 
The bill of charges which is brought by the HOUSE IS IMPEACHMENT.

OK, I forgot they voted on one of Bills charges (old age).

I still think Nixon was actually impeached because I remember the committee voting to carry the charges so the indictment was brought. Ergo, Nixon was also impeached, although he was never tried for those charges which were brought.
 
bountyhunter sez:
Not only are you correct on that point, Oliver North (who was working the arms for hostage thing at the time with Iran) was so terrified by Bin Laden (his politics and his following) he told the Reagan administration he considered Bin Laden to be the most dangerous man in the world (seriously)

Urban legend. North actually said that stuff about Abu Nidal. In fact, Ollie refuted the claim that he said that stuff about OBL himself.

http://www.snopes.com/rumors/north.htm

Quoting North:

AS YOU WILL NOTE, THE ORIGINATOR ATTRIBUTES TO ME CERTAIN STATEMENTS REGARDING USAMA BIN LADEN AND OTHER MATTERS THAT ARE SIMPLY INACCURATE. THOUGH I WOULD LIKE TO CLAIM THE GIFT OF PROPHESY, I DON'T HAVE IT.
 
I still think Nixon was actually impeached because I remember the committee voting to carry the charges so the indictment was brought. Ergo, Nixon was also impeached, although he was never tried for those charges which were brought.
He resigned before he could be impeached. Therefore, he was not impeached.
Hussein decided to intimidate the rest of the Arabs by beating on one of them: he chose Kuwait because it was close (short commute) sits on 15% of the world's oil, and has a seaport.
He invaded Kuwait, in part, because he owed them lots of money borrowed during the Iran-Iraq War which they would not forgive and he accussed them of stealing his oil. Iraq already had a seaport, Umm Qasr, recently made famous during the invasion.
 
In response to these statements about the women and their motives:

The point is though that these women waited until now to come forth with this, coincidently when the politico's big money is flowing? Kinda discredits their credibility right off the bat in my mind.
Seriously though, most of the women are "un-named sources". I don't put much stock in anything said by someone who hides behind anonymity – especially in the political arena. It May be true, but if they won’t identify themselves, I assume that it is made up.
If it happened 20 years ago, and it was not enough of an issue to bring up at the time, and she chose to wait until the guy who did it was in a position where the revelation could cause political damage, I would question her motive, even if it was my own daughter[0] or wife or mother.

I feel compelled to point out this statement from the article:

none of the women approached the newspaper on her own. Reporters contacted them in the course of a six-week examination of Schwarzenegger's behavior toward women on and off the movie set.

These women, for their own reasons, let the incidents pass without making a public or legal fuss. Given the climate of the time period in question, they probably wouldn't have been taken seriously anyway. They have only said anything about it now after being contacted by reporters pursuing their story. And frankly, I can't blame them for wanting to remain anonymous. If I had somebody pinch my nipple years ago, I wouldn't want it plastered in headlines across the country with my name attached.

Frankly, I think these women's statements are credible, especially in light of things that Ah-nold himself has said about his behavior in the past.

The motives of the media in pursuing such things -- now, that's a different matter. And their completely inconsistent handling of far worse allegations against Clinton and other favored leftists shows them up for the hypocrites they are. But did the incidents happen? Probably.

Me.... I would not leave my daughter alone with the Ah-nold of twenty years ago. I have the impression his values have evolved considerably over the years, and he's probably a different man today.
 
You can bet that there are many more women that want to grope A.S. than the reverse. I just want to know if he gropes guns. The nags at NOW are mad because he didn't grope them... loved that Clinton.. Hope he pulls out of the race. Arnold out and up with Tom. This stuff is a sideshow arranged by the dark master himself..Davis.. All that said, young men would do well to treat women with respect, without taking the fun out of the interchange... The line separating the two is a moving one depending on the individuals and circumstances.

How do the women on this forum view these charges?
 
Lemme see here.

We have communists and socialists in congress swearing oath to protect the constitution. . . .

We have presidents who have eyes for women.

We have secty of energy who can't wait to give away nuclear secrets to the Chinese.

We have vice presidents who take campaign money from enemies of the US.

We have Lt governors in certain prominent states who belong to screaming racists organizations and who specifically and repeatedly refuse to distance themselves from said racist groups.

We have states with senators who at some point in their past was an evangelist of the KKK.

So now we have a paper breathlessly reporting a candidate for governor said positive things about a long since dead Nazi? And this candidate is out of step with the electorate????????

Seems a Nazi would spice things up a bit.
 
I still think Nixon was actually impeached because I remember the committee voting to carry the charges so the indictment was brought. Ergo, Nixon was also impeached, although he was never tried for those charges which were brought.


The Judicial Committee voted to recommend that charges be brought. That's all the committee had authority to do. Nixon resigned before the House voted on it. He was not impeached.
 
What the L.A. Times has scrupulously failed to report is the
ample evidence of over-the-top assaultive behavior by his grey
eminence Gov. Gray Davis. Davis has been charged with verbally abusing
staffers and engaging even in physical rough stuff. On all this
the Times is silent. No bias here, uh-uh.
 
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