Scope for 308 bolt rifle

[R.W.Dale]

Any comments on Korea and Malaysia made scopes?

I would like to see the Korean factory that makes the Bushnell Banner, it must be one nice and modern facility cause they can make a dang nice scope for not a lot of money. I recently purchased one of the 3x9x40 Banners that feature 6" of eye relief. I chose this scope over much more expensive brands cause you cannot get that much eye relief in a rifle scope at any price. Optically it's as good as anything you can get for less than $150

The banners seem to be some pretty robust scopes, I've had one on some pretty hard kicking rifles, that finally died when a 460 S&W encore barrel sheared off a scope mount. My current banner is on a 35 Whelen

 

[Master of Arms]

This is also why anecdotal evidence isn't accepted as proof in any field of study.

+1

 

[lvcat2004]

I have Zeiss and Nikon scopes and for the money, I would go to Nikon.

In this day and age of outsourcing for cheaper labor, it's kind of hard to say if country of origin have that much to do with quality anymore.

My Zeiss is assembled in U.S. of German optics (I think), and both of my Nikon Monarch and Buckmaster are made in Philippines, hopefully of Japanese glass, but I'm not sure of that, but at least they are not made in China...

 

[T.R.]

This is an older TASCO Widefield 2X-7X that was made in Japan back in 1980's. It has held it zero during a wide diversement of hunting conditions. But current TASCO products made in communist China.

Simmons offers a great scope for the money. Simmons is managed by Meade Instruments with assembly in Philipinnes. I suggest check eBay often for 44 MAG series. Oldy but goody Redfield scopes available on eBay, too.

.308 is a very good choice for long distance hunting.

TR

 

[Master of Arms]

the reticle would completely disappear into a blur if you made the mistake if focusing on the target.

Does out of focus ring any bells??

This thread is a good example of why I never ask anyone's opinion of what to buy. This is also why anecdotal evidence isn't accepted as proof in any field of study[/QUOTE]+1

 

[MJ]

After today I will have 1850 rounds of .308 down range with this 10X Tasco. The scope is removed for travel to the range and has never lost zero.



I also have the Leupold M3LR but find the Tasco easy to use. I do have to lube the turret O-rings evey two years.

Cheers
MJ

 

[Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow]

Would a BSA Contender AO scope, TASCO Target/Varmint AO scope or Bushnell Sportview AO scope robust enough to handle 308 bolt guns. Not hunting, just shooting at range, but I still don't want zero shift or scope break after 100 rounds!

Sticking to the original question: The answer is I don't know, but of those 3, the Bushnell has the highest chance of surviving the first 100 rounds and thereafter, given the experience I've had with Tasco (breaking before ever firing a round) and BSA (breaking after a few hundred round through an airgun). I'd save up and spend a minimum of $200 if I were you.

 

[ftierson]

Since the topic of Tasco has come up, I'd like to point out that we're covering a lot of ground when we talk about Tasco.

I have several Tasco 3-9x40mm scopes from the Japanese days, and a couple of Tasco MAG-IV 4-16x40mmAO scopes from the Japanese days that have given sterling service over the years...

When the Lumina series came out (about their first scopes manufactured in the PRC), I bought a couple and had them replaced a couple of times before finally junking them like they deserved. They were absolute junk. I have a feeling that the move to Chinese manufactured scopes is what finally drove Tasco into Chapter 7...

Personally, I won't touch Chinese scopes. I buy many Chinese products that provide great quality for the money, but, in my experience, scopes aren't among them...

The current Nikon scopes using Japanese optics but assembled in the Philippines are great scopes.

The few scopes that I have seen that were manufactured in Taiwan were great values.

The few that I have seen that were manufactured in Korea were quite nice.

The Chinese (PRC) are still struggling up the learning curve when it comes to riflescopes. I have a feeling that the products of some Chinese factories might be decent but, since you never know what factory produced the one that you're thinking of buying, you can't separate them from the junk ones from other factories...

I don't know where the Swift scopes are made and I've never used any, but they have a decent reputation and the ones that I've examined looked quite nice with bright, clear optics. I might try some one of these days...

Anyway, that's my opinion and we all know what opinions are like...



Forrest

 

[R.W.Dale]

Does out of focus ring any bells??

You guy's just don't get it. I tried focusing and when I did the image and reticle got as clear as a bell the only problem was I was looking at my Chronograph screen only 15 feet away. The target had disappeared into a complete blur.

 

[Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow]

I have several Tasco 3-9x40mm scopes from the Japanese days, and a couple of Tasco MAG-IV 4-16x40mmAO scopes from the Japanese days that have given sterling service over the years...

That seems to be the long and the short of the conventional wisdom on Tasco, and I have no reason to doubt it. Old/Japanese, good. New/Chinese, bad. When I badmouthed Tasco above, I was talking new purchased at Academy in the last 2 years.

 

[pgeleven]

+1 for leupold and nikon. ill be putting a millet on a new one this spring

 

[skinewmexico]

I'm still trying to figure out why you remove your scope to travel to the range.

 

[MJ]

Cuz I can and the first shot always goes to the POA.


Cheers
MJ

 

[Ragnar Danneskjold]

I think the question one needs to ask when buying cheap optics, or anything for that matter is: Will the work in the long run, or will I end up buying another one or a better one. If you buy a Bushnell now for $100, then it breaks, and you go with a Nikon later. You wasted $100. Just going with the Nikon up front costs more at first, but saves you more money later. When I got my AR. I bought a Tasco red dot for it just because I wanted something right then. It sucked big time. I ended up getting an Eotech. Now whenever I look at that Tasco at the bottom of my misc. gun stuff box, I feel like I conned myself out of $75. Just get something that you'll be happy with in the long run up front.

 

[1200 meters]

Just toss'n in a comment.

I love scope talk. many experts out there, but many more scopes. Scopes are compared to what each person has used. I appreciate each person's insight. I have several scopes and as a miliary sniper, I have used several others. In truth I could not tell you what the best scope out there is. I must however add a plus comment to the comments on TASCO. I hav used a Tasco World class 3 to 9 power Mil-Dot on an 8mm Mauser for 12 years and it have never lost zero. I so love the scope that I have said I would have used it in the military and carry a 2nd one in my Ruck should the primary fail. The scope cost about $90 and was worth every penny. I absolute favorite scope for sniper or hunting is the Leatherwood ART scope. I have two, The M-1200 and the M-600. These scopes are the only production scopes that uses a Ballistic Cam. This Cam is linked to the Power ring and when you range a target you will be cross hairs on. The M-600 is on from 200 meters to700 meters and the M1200 is on from 300 meters to 1200 meters. These scopes can be set for the ballistics of the the round that you are using from .17 cal to .50 cal If you havent seen one you should. on the net under Hi-Lux/Leatherwood Optics. Dave

 

[Master of Arms]

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=359100

There is lots of info on scopes at this thread. Most of the posts are facts so it may help you make up your own mind. I hope it helps. Take time to read because some of the posts are quite long but contain an abundance of information.

For what its worth, Swift scopes are the best in the 200-400 dollar range and easily compare with any leupold. Just go take a look at one of them. I have a Swift 6-24-50 on my .300 at the present time. I had a Swift 4-12-50 but stepped it up a little to get a little more power for the longer ranged shots. I think that 100 yards = 6 feet. I haven`t had it on but a week or so but the one that I traded back in over the counter held it`s zero through about 250-300 shots so I`ll call it an excellent scope. Burris also has some great scopes. I did a good bit of research on the building, design and glass used in scopes ergo the link I`ve posted above. Don`t let comments that generalize certain scope companies play a single bit of role in your decision, check the facts and go hold them in your own hands and look through them with your own eyes. I know that Swift offers a lifetime over the counter warranty and I believe that Burris also offers the same. I have never owned a Burris nor have I got any experience with a Burris but from what I`ve read it seems that Burris has taken a few positive steps in the past few years.