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I have no experience with BSA or NCstar. I have used budget scopes from Millett, Simmons, Tasco, Burris and Bushnell, however, and my experience has been mostly positive. In one sense, budget scopes are less reliable than high dollar ones, but in another, it barely matters, because if a scope is likely to fail, it will almost certainly do it right away and can then be replaced under warranty. Once the scope has handled the first hundred rounds or so, it will usually be good for decades. (This assumes calibers smaller than .338 or maybe the hottest .300 magnums. On those guns I wouldn't bother with anything but top quality scopes.)

It is also true, in my experience, that the click adjustments on budget scopes are generally neither as true nor as repeatable as those on high dollar ones. This matters greatly to target and long range shooters who constantly adjust their scopes and NEED to know they are not being lied to. For most purposes, though, we zero the scope at a particular range and then leave it. Repeatability, then, becomes completely irrelevant, and accuracy (1/4 minute meaning 1/4 minute and not 2/9 minute, etc.) almost equally so.

Finally, it is often -- but not always -- true that a higher priced scope will give a brighter and sharper image. This is nice -- especially when bragging -- but not terribly important, IMO. I spent a bunch of money on my binoculars because I wanted the best possible image, and because I intended to spend many hours looking through them searching for game or just admiring. My scopes, though, are aiming devices, and perfect color rendition, etc., are far down the list of things I need in an aiming device. It is nice to have all the brightness possible for those last few minutes of legal light, but I find that exit pupil is more important than a thousand dollars worth of lens coating in those situations -- and exit pupil costs nothing.

There is only one strong recommendation I have for buying cheap riflescopes: avoid gimmicks, avoid bells and whistles, and avoid Hubble-style magnifications. On a budget, look for fixed powers of 4x or 6x, adjustables of (approximately) 3x-9x, and objective lenses of no more than 40mm.

HTH!

<edit> Having said all that, I depend upon Leupolds for nearly everything. When I was young and broke the budget scopes did what I needed them to, but now that I'm old and rich (LOL) I appreciate the relative luxury of being able to mount a scope and KNOW that it will do the job. (Although I did once have a new Leupold fail after 20 rounds...)
 
i will probably get trashed, but i have had excellent results with bushnell sportsman series scopes. they all are a little older models, the newest is probably 10 years old, but they have both worked great for me. one is on a 30-30, and the other is on a .22 mag, well it was, until 3 weeks ago, when i put it on my 22 auto. i do not know how much recoil they would take, as neither of them kick hard. but the one on my (now my wifes) 30-30 has been knocked around for about 20 years now. i also had one on a knight 50 cal m.l. for about five years. no probs there either. now my 300 mag is a different story, it has a redfeild on it. my wife bought it (gun, scope, 3 boxes of ammo, sling, case, the whole bundle)(good job dear!)as an aniversary present MANY years ago. good luck.
 
The quality of the lense and how it's ground and polished is what gives you a sharp clear image. The better scopes are clear out to the edges, the cheaper scopes are not.
The coatings are what transmits light. They keep the light from reflecting back. The better scopes have more coatings of better quality.
Don't get a 50mm scope. It's a waste since they have a larger exit pupil than your eye does. I believe the exit pupil on a 50mm is around 7mm-8mm, and your eye at full dilation is about 5mm. A 40mm scope is all your eye can use and is easier to mount.

If you can't afford a top-end scope like Leupold, etc. at least buy the top of the line of a lower class scope like Bushnell or Nikon.

Unless you have to have adjustable magnification, and noone really does, go with a fixed power scope. If the scope is for a hunting rifle a 4x or 6x is all you need. For target shooting a 10x works, although it depends on the distance you shoot.

Your shooting will dictate the scope you need.

For what it's worth once I bought a cheap BSA spotting scope- $89.00 if I remember right. I gave it away. The image was dark and blurry. I asked around and everyone elses were the same.
I ended up with a Konus spot. It isn't as expensive as the Kowa or Leupold but is a very bright. clear scope. My point is that if you look around enough, and ask around like you are doing here, you can find a scope that you can use for what you can afford.
Be aware that with optics you really do get what you pay for. My Konus is great but it isn't a Kowa. It will serve me for a long time but if I start shooting long range rifle I can see where I will need another, better scope. It all depends on what you need, but don't go cheap. It will frustrate you mercilessly.

Jim
 
Don't get a 50mm scope. It's a waste since they have a larger exit pupil than your eye does. I believe the exit pupil on a 50mm is around 7mm-8mm, and your eye at full dilation is about 5mm. A 40mm scope is all your eye can use and is easier to mount.
That's only half the calculation, mate. Exit pupil=objective diameter/magnification. IOW, a 4x scope with a 40mm objective has a 10mm exit pupil: 40 divided by 4 = 10. Also, full pupil dilation in the human eye decreases with age, but can be as high as 7mm.
 
I have the Centerpoint from Wal Mart on a 30-06 rifle too. Everything you see on this rifle...including the rifle was bought at Wally World.

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If you can't afford a top-end scope like Leupold, etc. at least buy the top of the line of a lower class scope like Bushnell or Nikon.

I would take issue with the characterization of Leupold as "top end" and Nikon and Bushnell as "lower class". Not necessarily true. Just depends on the LINE. It's all about the line, line, line. Nikon Monarch, Monarch Gold, and Tactical blow all most all Leupolds, and the 4200 Bushnell tops all but the Vari-X III and higher. Ya just can't make blanket statements like that anymore.

esmith, $100 bucks. Wow, that's tough. I recommend you wait and save up at least $200, which vastly increases your good options. But if you don't - You said mostly for target shooting, but occasional hunt. In that scenario, with that budget, the best I can think to recommend is the Bushnell Banner 4-12x40mm
 
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