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SCOTUS says release felons due to overcrowding

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Vector, May 23, 2011.

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  1. Vector

    Vector Member

    Oct 2, 2007
    Now the headline might make you wonder what this subject has to do with guns, but I suspect many of you know exactly what it has to do with guns. We as American citizens have the Constitutionally protected right(as long as the current SC justices say we do)to own firearms. Yet we are continually having to defend that right among our fellow citizens in public debates in the media, town halls, etc.
    Many want us to live in a nanny state and have our security depend on local LEO's. Others say we should not hunt for our food, instead depend on the local supermarket to feed our families. Still others say we should not enjoy the sport of shooting and competing with firearms, and instead would prefer we take up soccer instead. In many instances you cannot reason with them because they do not deal in facts nor logic, rather they have emotion based arguments which in many cases is not well thought out. They like to live in a dream world where most all violent felons are caught and securely locked away. They do not realize that many murders in this country go unsolved, nor do they even realize that escape from jails and prisons is more common than the average person thinks.
    However, when things like massive prison population releases are mandated by the courts or state government, even some of the anti-gunners start to think about people needing to own a gun to defend themselves.

    Frankly I think we as responsible gun owners should make the case for our position every time things like this happen in our society. It is not only a war to protect our Constitutional rights, but also for the hearts and minds of our fellow citizens who might cast misguided votes for politicians.

    Here is the link to the article I just read where a 5-4 vote will mandate a prison population reduction.


    Also, don't think for a minute that we are that far away from the SCOTUS voting that we do not have the right to bear arms. All it will take is another 4 years of a liberal in office to where he appoints another justice or two on the high court for it to happen.
  2. CCI

    CCI Member

    May 7, 2011
    Prison population reduction, not good news.
  3. Ruger44mag

    Ruger44mag Member

    Oct 26, 2010
    Big,Lake AK
    That’s messed up! In my opinion they need to execute the criminals when (caught and tried) who have committed murders. The overcrowding problems would be solved over night. Many of those felons released will be murders most likely.
  4. mgmorden

    mgmorden Member

    May 22, 2009
    Charleston, South Carolina
    More likely it's for drug charges. The USA is notorious for locking up people for a huge number of things that are simply not crimes in many parts of the world.

    As a reference, the United States, by percentage of it's total population, incarcerates more of it's population than any other nation on Earth (and we're ahead by a pretty wide margin):


    Sure, for MURDER we might need to execute them, and for the blatant stuff like theft and rape those people have commited serious crimes. However, the number of laws in this country that can earn you jail time is staggering.

    A big part of that is that many of the countries prisons are outsourced to private firms. The government still pays for them, but the actual prison is ran by another entity. Since the government is footing the bill PER inmate, it becomes financially beneficial for the entities that run them to lobby in such a way that those prisons are kept full.
  5. kk0g

    kk0g Member

    Dec 9, 2008
    Peru, Iowa
    This is simply an unintended consequence of the government wasting billions of our tax dollars on the "war on drugs" for the past 30 years.
  6. ny32182

    ny32182 Member

    Oct 17, 2003
    Clemson, SC
  7. rbernie
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    rbernie Member

    Jan 21, 2004
    Norra Texas
    Discussions about the politics of incarceration are off topic for THR.
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