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Meeting last night at one of my two clubs .. part of ''business'' was making a donation to 2nd Amendment sisters. We did it last year too.

Have to confess to knowing not that much about them - just their existence but ... seems they plan a march in 2004 to ''counteract'' a Million Mom march event.

So - are these gals good? I probably should be ashamed admitting i know so little about them. I know about WAGC of course!

http://www.2asisters.org/
 
Yep! They are!

They held a counter protest to the Million Mom March in 2000, which is how the whole thing got started.

www.2asisters.net/mi

(I used to be the webbie for this, but had to step down this summer due to other committments. The guy doing it now has revamped it and it kicks butt. Lots of resources there!)
 
Yes, my wife is a charter member of SAS. They are a great group. I have been to their website. They have a very informative site.

Jim Hall
 
Great Organization

A good group and very much on the offense, I have been involved with them almost since the very beginning. They did the mothers day counter march ad pulled it off with less than six months from conception to the D.C. Rally/Counter march, They organized a protest of the UN confrernce on small arms, They directly opposed the Million Mornon Mom's at Concord 2000 in Bethlehem PA where in a show of numbers out did the MMM,s 2000 to 65 just the threat of their presense has caused many of the MMM's PA events to founder, Their national spokesperson Maria Heil is one of the most charming people that I have had the pleasure of knowing in the Pro Gun Movement, and their SE PA Coordinator Penni Bacheler is one of the most dedicated and tireless activest in SE PA.

They have sceduled another counter protest to the next MMM mothers day DC march this time with more organization time this will be a grand so be there on mothers day in DC.

P95Carry Witch club are you a member of? I am a member at Delaware County Field and Stream.

Men can join the Second Amendment Sister's too an associate membership is only 15 dollars Non Voting, after all it is the women whos voice tha is heard when the man is just labeld as a gun nut.

Guy L Johnson
 
P95Carry Which club are you a member of? I am a member at Delaware County Field and Stream.
Guy .. we are a long ways apart!! Doubt you'd ever have heard of this lil Club ...... ''Cessna Game Protection Association'' ....... odd title in some ways ... cos we are all shooters and hunters!:p

Small band of huntaholics and shootaholics!:D
 
I thought perhaps I might post my "report" on that "march."
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Well, earlier I mentioned the "Million Misguided Mother's March" that took place in Washington a while back...so I figured I'd post my report from "The Belly of the Whale." I sent this to my local paper and it was printed as an opinion piece.

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(original post)~~~~~ Sent: 5/16/2000 12:19 AM
For quite some time I have been looking forward to attending the AIMM (Armed Informed Mother's March) in Washington as well as the attendent MMM gathering.

The weather behaved for all concerned, at about 75 degrees with a cool breeze. The previous day was hot, humid and generally miserable...so with overflowing optimism and a true "grassroots" sign, I soldiered on.

The Mall near the Washington monument was thick with the indolent aroma of estrogen as I watched what seemed to be a sea of primarily "soccer mom" types heading toward two huge TV screens with the Capitol Building in the background. My interests, however, lay elsewhere.

A secutity officer directed me about a quarter mile away to the SAS Site where I observed an obviously somewhat smaller but infinately more friendly group of folks. We didn't have pre-printed T-Shirts, TV screens or high profile, taped messages from Clinton. What we DID have was a group of people who didn't scream and mouth plattitudes every three or four minutes. We had speeches by women who had survived, through the use of armed intervention, rape and worse. We had Professor John Lott who spoke at length...and gave us facts rather than emotion. We had Grandmothers...we had children. We had an excellent cross-section of America. The speakers, from Prof Lott to the organizers of the event were available to the public and the media, which, suprizingly covered the entire affair was eager to speak with those in attendance. THIS was truly a grassroots affair. I believe the total expendature was something on the order of $40,000. The group numbered (by my estimate) around 2000 or so. A sign of my own making proclaimed; "Today, 38,000,000 armed citizens behaved peacefully." After searching for some friends from our communities, I decided to wade into the opposition's camp.

Subtle though my message was, I was still greeted by numerous sneers and jeers by several seemingly exasperated women. Hmmm...I was NOT confrontational nor glib , but I guess facts are not what they wanted to hear. Nevertheless, I pushed forward...although I must confess, I did avoid the teeming center of mass. (there IS such a thing as pressing your luck) After all, Laz wanted to return to report to you in one piece...so I relaxed on the sidelines, content to observe and talk with any who might question my sanity, and of course, some did. In point of fact, I seemed to attract more media attention than anything else...and I was happy to oblige a couple of newspaper columnists, a film crew and two documentary crews.

Anyone who claims this was not a political event obviously was not there. They trotted out numerous politicians, eager to jump on the bandwagon, Melissa Etheridge, "Rosie," a seemingly endless string of women, grief-stricken by a shooting who sobbed openly most of the time. It was all emotion...no facts, or at best, skewed facts such as the "12 children a day" mantra. No mention was made that most of the 12 were 18 and 19 year-old drug dealers. Clinton was there with a taped message. I found out later that he was not there in person as there were "fears as to whether or not adequate protection could be had." Wait a minute....do you mean there were GUNS at this rally??? Perhaps they were fearful that Rosie might smother him....

The Pope never made it...I'm not quite sure why. I certainly expected him to.

I was pleasantly suprised to find that, occationally a family would walk by, and often the father or husband, generally bringing up the rear would give me a subtle "thumbs up." I would wink and not give him away. Domestic tranquility y'know. A group of Girl Scouts along with their Den Mother was handing out flyers. I'm happy to report that the flyers contained the Ten Commandments on one side and the Bill of Rights on the other. Nice.

I DID engage in animated discussions with many of the participants, and on several occations did get them to thinking. For the most part all they were served up was emotion with little or no facts...after all, if it's not a fact, it's an opinion..and there were plenty of opinions to go around. I was truly amazed at many of the participants who would shout a question (?) at me and then run away when I offered an answer. Guess they didn't want to hear it. I vividly recall one lady who verbally accosted me. I tried to explain that there actually WAS some common ground with us. Only our approach differed. I explained that we WERE strongly in favor of mandatory sentencing for criminals who use a firearm in the commission of a crime. I asked her if she was in favor of this for criminals. She replied, "I'm not going to debate this with you." I made it simple..."Don't you want criminals to go to jail? Thats a simple yes or no." She just stared at me like a deer in the headlights. I suppose that's how you get when you only deal from emotion. Very sad. I pressed on..."Do you believe we should teach children at an early age that guns can be dangerous?" No response. Easily led, I suppose...or perhaps she was one sandwich short of a picnic. Some were like that...some were affible...some were downright rude. My day would have been somewhat more comfortable had I stayed with the SAS...but nowhere as exciting, I'll wager. I will say that at least we picked up our trash when we left. The MMM site looked like a battlefield when it was over.

The experience confirmed in my own mind that the prime difference between the two factions seems to be that the anti-rights group mourn their losses (as well they may) and demonize the method of their loss while the pro-rights side celebrate their victories at stopping a rape or murder or robbery. Unfortunately, a photo of a dead child is far more emotional than a picture of a live survivor. It is truly difficult to argue facts with an emotionally distraught person, but rewarding nontheless when you finally DO make progress with them.

I had one gentleman say to me, in exasperation, "Look at ALL THESE PEOPLE!! How can we ever prevail? I reminded him that, even if there were a half million people there, (probably less) the number of honest firearm-owning citizens would be about 170 times as many! He smiled and said, "Yes, you're right."

Just remember, my friends...they don't expect immediate surrender. These folks will always try to press their agenda, year after year after year. They are nothing if not patient. In fifteen years...they'll still be there. But so will we.

If I get any decent pictures back, I'll post them for you. You'll recognize me by the sunburned face!

(Wearily) Yours in Peace & True Liberty~~~Lazarus
 
I made the trip, too, Laz. And had the sunburned ears to prove it. I wonder if we met up at some point.

The thing I'll remember the most (besides Clinton doing the drive-by and getting massive jeers..that was priceless), was how horrible the people lining the street on the way to the Capitol were. There were men and women, some holding children, screaming at us that they hoped our kids would die. The skinheaded communists were actually pretty funny. One called me Bourgeois :). He was finally arrested and hauled off.

The thing is, though, there were a lot of them on the other side. Not a million, but when I hear someone tell me there were only 50,000 people there, I know they didn't see it. The crowd was huge, bigger than any concert I've ever been to, and those t-shirts were everywhere. This is what we have to fight.

The official numbers for SAS were something like 5k, I think. And you know how small an area we took up on the mall. But all 5k people paid their own way. I drove 900 miles alone with my 13 year old. The woman who sat next to me was in her mid-50s, and grabbed a plane from Washington state by herself, with just the clothes she had on. So, I think we can win. We're dedicated and we're right.

Right now, we're pretty comfy really. Lots of shall-issue, lots of lawsuit preemption cases, good successes. It just scares me how much there is to get done before the tide turns again.
 
I was in D.C. with the Sister's and marched with them in May of 2000 against the 45,000 Mean Mommies. I urge you all to plan now to be there May 2004. Their meeting was a flop then and should be more of one this time. They are a violent bunch too, they surrounded and kicked some of our folks, so we had to have a police escort on our march to protect us from them.

If you plan to attend gun shows or shooting matches plan to attend this counter demonstration. Gun owners are real big on doing things for themselves, but wouldn't miss a baseball game on TV to show up for a gun rights rally.
 
I was there in 2000 also, great experience. SAS is a great bunch and they do a tremendous amount of good work on not too much money. I urge you to support them as best you can.:cool:

Edited to add: Given their [grass rooots] bandwidth, these folks are at least as important as the NRA and GOA, IMNSHO.
 
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I was there. Got John Lott, Suzanna Hupp and Larry Klayman to sign my sign. Wow, that was a long time ago.
 
Forgot to add: On our march to the Capitol, I saw one confrontation that I thought was going to become violent, thanks to the other side, and was in a similar one myself. We went past the National Archives, so I just told everyone who was hollering at us, 'The Constitution's in there - Go read it!'
 
They are a violent bunch too, they surrounded and kicked some of our folks, so we had to have a police escort on our march to protect us from them.

This is the behavior of hypocrites. A peaceful protest turned violent by the MMM's. How could anyone want to associate with such cretins. :rolleyes:

2A SISTERS......... YOU GO GIRLS !!!!!!!!!!:cool:
 
Thx for all the comments - I am impressed........ and a little embarrassed I was showing such ignorance.
This is the behavior of hypocrites. A peaceful protest turned violent by the MMM's.
Carlos - this is one aspect that is both blatantly obvious and pi$$es me a lot ... always seems that the protesters with little or no real ''leg to stand on'' invariably survive purely on gut driven emotion and lies .... just to serve their cause. They then when challenged get belligerent or worse .... and rarely face an argument square on ...... usually choosing to turn away and ignore, or, just get more belligerent.

Hardly deserving of or generating of much respect eh?! :rolleyes:
 
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