Selling ammo on gundbroker to IL?

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I'm selling some ammo on gunbroker. The gent lives in IL and is willing to provide me with a FOID. Does anyone see anything wrong with my selling it/shipping it to him?
 
Here are the legal requirements from the FOID Act:

http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilc...ctName=Firearm+Owners+Identification+Card+Act.
(b‑5) Any resident may purchase ammunition from a person outside of Illinois. Any resident purchasing ammunition outside the State of Illinois must provide the seller with a copy of his or her valid Firearm Owner's Identification Card and either his or her Illinois driver's license or Illinois State Identification Card prior to the shipment of the ammunition. The ammunition may be shipped only to an address on either of those 2 documents.

Basically get a copy of both the DL and the FOID and only ship the ammunition to the address on the cards.
 
IANAL but I think Illinois law insists on the FOID being presented in person. This wouldn't neccessarily make it illegal for you to sell it to him but may pose a problem with the shipping it part of your question.

Your safest bet for an answer would be to call an FFL holder or two in his area. You could find them here: http://www.fflfinder.com
 
I thought ammo sold in Illinois had to all go through an FFL? Check the laws carefully. You may be only seeing part of the law.
IANAL but I think Illinois law insists on the FOID being presented in person. This wouldn't neccessarily make it illegal for you to sell it to him but may pose a problem with the shipping it part of your question.

So nobody in Illinois can buy ammo from Midway USA or at least, if they do, Midway USA must ship it to an Illinois FFL....

Tin_Man, I would go with Jeff's info who posted the actual statute rather than opinions based upon, "well I heard" or "I think"...
 
So nobody in Illinois can buy ammo from Midway USA or at least, if they do, Midway USA must ship it to an Illinois FFL....

I have purchased handgun ammo on the internet on multiple occasions, and it has been shipped directly to my home. I did have to provide BOTH a state issued identification and a copy of my FOID card, and both have to have the same address.
 
I have purchased handgun ammo on the internet on multiple occasions, and it has been shipped directly to my home. I did have to provide BOTH a state issued identification and a copy of my FOID card, and both have to have the same address.

The statute that Jeff posted would seem to contradict the bolded apart above:


(b‑5) Any resident may purchase ammunition from a person outside of Illinois. Any resident purchasing ammunition outside the State of Illinois must provide the seller with a copy of his or her valid Firearm Owner's Identification Card and either his or her Illinois driver's license or Illinois State Identification Card prior to the shipment of the ammunition. The ammunition may be shipped only to an address on either of those 2 documents.
 
(625 ILCS 5/6‑116) (from Ch. 95 1/2, par. 6‑116)
Sec. 6‑116. Notice of Change of Residence Address or Legal Name.
(a) Whenever any person after applying for or receiving a drivers license or permit moves from the residence address named in such application or on the license or permit issued to him such person shall within 10 days thereafter notify the Drivers Services Department of the Secretary of State's Office in writing of his old and new residence addresses and of the number of any license or permit then held by him. Such person may obtain a corrected license or permit as provided in Section 6‑114.

(b) General penalties. Unless another penalty is in this Code or other laws of this State, every person convicted of a petty offense for the violation of any provision of this Chapter shall be punished by a fine of not more than $500.



It is the obligation of the holder of a Firearm Owner's Identification Card to notify the Department of State Police of any address change since the issuance of the Firearm Owner's Identification Card.

(e) Except as provided by Section 6.1 of this Act, any other violation of this Act is a Class A misdemeanor.

So technically the law contradicts itself because State issued ID/FOID cards should have your current address of residence under penalty of law, but that is neither here nor there. Bottom line is you can ship from/get ammo shipped to your place of residence in Illinois.
 
I'm in Illinois and I regularly buy ammo mail order from Natchez, Ammoman, AIM Surplus, and others. Some of them require a copy of the FOID. Others don't even bother with the law.
 
The State Police will not issue a new FOID card for a change of address. I had an argument with an FFL at a gun show about this....long story. Anyway, you have to provide a COPY of both the FOID and a state-issued ID, and they can ship ammo to your door. It must be shipped to the address on one of the ID's, as Jeff posted, but they don't have to agree. To answer the OP's question, get the DL in addition to the FOID and you'll be covered.

The only retailer who has given me any trouble was Centerfire Sys. who were unaware of the law change allowing ammo shipments. I believe this was changed in the last few years (or maybe just clarified...Jeff correct me if I'm wrong)

This is two threads in a week where people from out of state have argued with residents about IL gun laws. Why does everyone around here think they are an expert on IL law? There is no need to contact an FFL. The relevant sections of the ILCS have been posted here. You can peruse them yourself at http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/ilcs.asp. Maybe some of the experts here can do that as well before jumping all over the next thread. The FOID act can be found under "Public Safety".
 
The law is fairly clear, and it was also unnecessary as there never was any law against having ammo shipped in from out of state.

But someone thought it would be a good idea to clarify it for sure so this was added a few years ago. Blago signed it into law IIRC.
 
This is two threads in a week where people from out of state have argued with residents about IL gun laws. Why does everyone around here think they are an expert on IL law?

Heck, even Illinois residents can't agree on the law in Illinois.
 
Illinois does NOT reguire a FOID to be presented in person.

I have ordered ammo from Sprtosman's Guide many times, and only had to email them scanned copies of my DL and FOID the first time.

They assigned me a customer number, and kept them on file, so after that, I simply need to give them that customer number.

Get faxed or scanned copies of his DL and FOID and your fine.
 
The deal in Illinois is this ...

The state requires a FOID card for possession (and purchase) of guns and ammo by IL residents.

Out of staters can sell ammo to those in Illinois. Illinois law requires that the buyer to provide the seller with copy of his/her FOID card. If this is NOT done, then supposedly the buyer could be prosecuted by the state. But it seems impossible that the state of Illinois could prosecute someone from out of state.

You are perfectly within the law to ship ammo to any buyer in Illinois. But that buyer is required by law to provide you with FOID copy.
 
Megistopoda said:
The state requires a FOID card for possession (and purchase) of guns and ammo by IL residents.

You are perfectly within the law to ship ammo to any buyer in Illinois. But that buyer is required by law to provide you with FOID copy.

AND Illinois Driver's License or state ID Card...

I thought that was made pretty clear by the actual statute that Jeff posted.
 
Selling ammo on gundbroker to IL?
If the purchase is FOB shipping point, meaning that the purchaser pays shipping from your location, the purchaser is buying the ammo subject to the laws of your locality, not his. Look up Uniform Commercial Code. You'll get other opinions. They're wrong.
 
until recently you could buy ammo online and have it shipped to your door in illinois, but most companies.. ( i.e. cabelas, cheaperthandirt etc ) dont want the flack from the liberal biast .
completely legal otherwise via illinois state police as of 8:00 pm est 5/2/09
 
Most of the big box ammo sellers won't send ammo to Cook County or Chicago, but most everywhere else in Illinois is just fine.

They usually call it "Chicago or Chicago metropolitan area" which is normally taken to mean Cook County.

I live in Will County, and have no problems. Grundy County has no problem like this either.
 
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