Semi-auto MP5?

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I am trying to decide on a rifle for home defense, and plinking. I have an SKS, and an AR15 (M4 Configuration) or an AK would be nice, but I am really interested in a civilian-legal version of the HK MP5. I have never seen one in semi-auto only. I have seen Bobcat weapons version, but, to me, they look like bastard stepchildren loosely based on a MP5. I guess a fixed stock would be necessary, otherwise I might fall into the SBR (Ahh! BATF:eek: )

Any links, esp. with prices, would be greatly valued!

I just saw a picture of about what I am looking for on another thread. It's called a V51, and looks like it shoots a .223 round. The poster said it fell into the SBR category :(
 
You want an HK 94. You can get one for $2500-$3000 if you look around. The reason they're so expensive is that they were banned from import in 1989. You can get one with an A3 stock (HK's collapsible stock) and it'll still be a title I gun, but I highly suggest using an A2 fixed stock, because it's hard to get a good cheek weld on the A3.
 
I was reeeaaaaaaallllly hoping to avoid anything that would need a class III liscense, tax stamp, etc... I guess that's not possible with what I'm looking for.
 
Why not go with Bobcat? If you're looking for a gun to shoot over and over again then a cheaper bobcat version is a good choice. Some say bobcat is good, some say bad. I don't know. I guess you gotta check them out in person.

I personally would absolutely LOVE to get a Special Weapons SW32K!:what:
It's an HK93 chambered for 7.62 soviet!
 
I've never fired one, but for what its worth, word of mouth and the flawless function I saw one perform at the range indicate that Bobcat MP5's are as good as it gets for reasonable amounts of money. Then again, for a HD gun, your best option is a 12 gauge with a 13" stock and an 18" cylinder barrel.

Seeing as it sounds like you're more interested in a nice toy, I too would have to reccomend a pre-89 HK. The thing is, they cost 3-4 times more, and to me its way too much money to be spending just to get a German made gun.
 
hankdatank1362:

Lots of info on MP5 and their semi-auto versions over at

http://hkpro.com/forum/index.php

The HK94 9mm is a semi-auto version of the MP5 but with a 16" barrel. If you want to have the MP5 "look", then you'll have to SBR it with NFA taxes. There are some clones (HKpro has a clone section). I was looking for an MP5/10 version....saw a semi-auto conversion for $10.5K :what:
 
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I was reeeaaaaaaallllly hoping to avoid anything that would need a class III liscense, tax stamp, etc... I guess that's not possible with what I'm looking for.
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Sure it is. As others have said, it's called the HK94. It's the semi-auto version of the MP5. They're just expensive, because they aren't being imported, anymore (and can't be).

CDNN Investments has them in their latest catalog. Price is something like $2799 for fixed stock, with folding being around $100 more.

They are neither full auto nor SBR, so no federal background check or tax stamp is necessary. You can certainly put a short (MP5 length) barrel on one, but then your looking at having to get the tax stamp and do the paperwork. In my way of thinking, you're talking about a $2800 weapon, so what's another $200 to get the proper (and handier) barrel on it?
 
Thanx for the link! I guess my only legal option ins the one with the ugly-as-sin fake supressor on it. Kinda defeats the whole purpose I wanted one for home defense. I've held mock-ups of MP5's and really liked their handling and OAL. I'm assuming that removing the extention is highly illegal, which makes it a THR no-no, so I won't even mention it. (oops)

If I got one of the MP5 pistols, and put a vertical foregrip on it, would that be legal? I thought I read somewhere that that falls into AOW category, or somehing like that.
 
When you see pictures of the British police in this terrorist incident with MP5s , these are semi-auto versions .
 
If you register it as an AOW it can never have a stock on it.

If you register it as an SBR it can have a stock (or not) and a vertical foregrip (or not).

$200 to register it either way (AOW or SBS).
 
never could figure that one out

If you are making the gun, an SBS or SBR is much more
versatile than an AOW as far as stock options, at the
same make-and-register Form 1 tax. Why make an AOW?
 
If you wanted to save a little money, you might consider an HK USC. You get .45ACP in a longer barrel, but lose a little in magazine capacity. Sadly, as the SL8 won't accept G36 magazines, the USC won't accept UMP magazines.
 
"Yeah, the $5 is to Transfer (Form 4). It's $200 to make one (Form 1)."

I wondered about that. That explains why AOW shotguns cost as much as a short barreled shotgun. I thought they were just taking a $189 Mossberg 500 and charging $500 because they could. If they have to pay $200 for the stamp to make it, they are not making as much profit as I thought. So you pay the $200 either way when you buy a new one.

If you bought a used AOW, is the price ever cheaper? Can an individual sell a AOW to another individual or do you have to do something special to transfer it? I know that any buyer would still have to go through the red tape of the AOW permit but what about the seller?

Now I see why AOWs are not very popular. Might as well get a short barreled shotgun and have the option of a stock. Same seems to go for rifles. I would always prefer a folding stock on a SBR to a pistol grip only.
 
If you are making the gun, an SBS or SBR is much more versatile than an AOW as far as stock options, at the same make-and-register Form 1 tax. Why make an AOW?
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Because some jurisdictions don't allow an SBS or SBR but do allow an AOW. Also, you need prior federal approval to transport an SBS or SBR across state lines, which isn't required for an AOW.

Can an individual sell a AOW to another individual or do you have to do something special to transfer it? I know that any buyer would still have to go through the red tape of the AOW permit but what about the seller?
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If the seller and the buyer are in the same state, a class 3 dealer isn't required. If the seller and buyer are in different states, the seller transfers the AOW to a class 3 dealer in the buyer's state and the class 3 dealer transfers the AOW to the buyer.
 
Albanian, you have to remember that class 2 manufacturers can make title II guns tax-free, so the cost of the tax really doesn't figure into the cost of the gun.
 
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