Semi-Open Class Centerfire Rifle Match.

[unwise11]

Only a couple rules
Bolts, semi's, levers, single shots. all good. any actions allowed that abide by the rules.
No lead sleds or devices of the like.
unlimited submissions.
LOOK! LOOK! 3 SHOT GROUPS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
All shots at 100 yards or More. but all are in same class.
No benchrest free recoil rifles, You know, the raceguns all painted and heavy.
Nothing that you determine to be unfair.
Targets must be measured using on target software or calipers. all must be measured.
NO flyers within 2" of the group.
must have fun
No targets entered in the November match.
Have fun
Ends January 3rd. 1st place and 2nd place only, so we have time to use any X-mas gifts we may get.
Also submit a picture of your gun.. we all like to see em.
heres a couple of my Howa M-1500 .308win

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[unwise11]

can a mod please sticky this thread?
thanks.

 

[R.W.Dale]

So is a net three shot group or five? After deductions.

 

[unwise11]

good point forgot it myself.
FIXED IT

 

[FlyinBryan]

is this for bolt guns only or is the AR platform allowed?

 

[unwise11]

anything that abides by the rules. (yes) ar's are great. I might use one. idk.

 

[FlyinBryan]

ok, thx jd

 

[unwise11]

Gonna shoot some custom loads today assuming theyre ready at 100 yards and maybe throw some FMJ at 200 yards.
good luck to all who are going out.

 

[JDGray]

Have fun boys!

 

[unwise11]

well. I'm jealous.
i didnt shoot today because it started to sprinkle and I just shot Handguns/AR's and had a bunch of fun shooting moving shotgun hulls at 25 yards using a Bushmaster Xm-15E2S with MOE set and a Trijicon ACOG 4 power.
but nothing for the match. maybe tomorrrow maybe not.

 

[dubbleA]

Since last months winner discounted a shot, heres my 3 shot group, with my cold shooter discount

What was the winning group? I posted a .215" 5 shot group, no flyer called.

Might just be me but a 3 shot group with 2 "so called" flyers would be considered a 5 shot group.
But in the end they are your rules, I'll try to get out and try to shoot.

 

[unwise11]

KSCCH won, I'll go look it over. yeah his group was tighter with that ugghhhh....
Mosin Nagant.
Im confused now.
because his were tigher than yours without subtracting bullet diameter, and ran through on target and were a bit over .1 MOA.
and yours were very confusing, but I see a 0.419-0.204=0.215
but his was already .347" without subtracting anything. now, 0.347-0.311= 0.036"
sooo.. he won?
right?
yes?

 

[Robert Wilson]

Huh. Way I read the rules, I can fire a three shot group and discount the worst two shots. So I'm officially submitting a one shot group of 0.00". When do I get my prize?

 

[Floppy_D]

Might just be me but a 3 shot group with 2 "so called" flyers would be considered a 5 shot group.

It's not just you... sounds like lazy grading to me.

 

[unwise11]

no. the final group must have 3 selected shots, you can call 2 flyers due to personal error. this is to save ammo, time and patience, I have heard it enough to say if you dont want the bit of slack some people appreciate then dont use it.
its not there because guns make flyers, its because people have errors and since this is not an NRA match it's ok to call yourself out, people mess up.
so if you use your 2 optional flyers you would have 5 shots, but 2 cant be part of the main group, so you cant go out shooting 5 shots and leaving it up to me to subtract the 2 you dont want.

 

[dubbleA]

but his was already .347" without subtracting anything. now, 0.347-0.311= 0.036"
sooo.. he won?
right?
yes?

No, the .347" is already center to center and you dont subtract the bullet diameter from it. What you came up with is a group of .036" which is 36 thousandth's of an inch. This would be a slightly out of round hole.


This isnt about winning, I really just tinker with shooting as it gives me something to do in my spare time, it's about correct measuring.

Here is a 5 shot group that measured about .138" if that gives you and idea.

 

[dubbleA]

its not there because guns make flyers, its because people have errors and since this is not an NRA match it's ok to call yourself out, people mess up.

Again I have to ask this question. Why is the "flyer" always the shot(s) that land away from the others.

 

[unwise11]

WOW. this is getting ridiculous. editing is going to happen.

 

[Floppy_D]

Good luck in the match, all.

 

[rodensouth]

Deleted, wasn't taking the High Road.