October Centerfire Match:

[Maverick223]

Welcome to the Centerfire Match for the month of October! This match is open to any centerfire rifle. This match is meant to be challenging and educational, but most of all FUN. Hopefully it will get you out to the range and shooting your rifle. If you have one handy, make sure an bring a friend too.


->Iron sights and non-magnified optics and red dots. Shot at 50yds.
->Scopes and other magnified sighting devices. Shot at 100yds.

There are Two Rifle Classes:
->Unlimited/Target Rifles (highly modified rifles, rests, target sights, heavy rifles (over 10lbs), high magnification optics- over 10x [in the appropriate division] may be used). Rests/Sandbags/bipods are permitted in this class only.
->Sporting Rifles (Includes All Non-Target Class Autoloaders, Bolt Actions, Single Shots, Pumps, & Lever Rifles). Rests/sandbags/bipods are not permitted in this class, but shooting sticks (either the crossed or walking stick variety) are allowed. Use of a sling is encouraged. Shoots may be taken from any position.


50 Yd. (Irons) Target: See image in the link below (graciously donated to the firearms community by MidwayUSA). Scale to 100% on standard 8.5x11in. paper. The objective is to fire 5 shots at each of the four bulls. Scored as 1pt. for each broken line and a bonus point for each shot completely within the center bulls, for a maximum score of 100pts!

100 Yd. (Optics) Target: Same as above.

http://www.midwayusa.com/Content/pdf/Legacy/rifle_target.pdf


When you are satisfied you've done your best post/attach (or shoot me a PM) a photo or scan of your target with as much of the following information as possible: Forum name (or name you want posted in the results), Rifle, make, model, vintage (if known), Sights/Optics (with magnification if applicable), Ammo (or load, if you care to divulge your secret recipe), Position, Distance, Conditions (in/outdoors, wind, temperature...). Multiple submissions are allowed (in same or different class with same or different rifles).

Self-scoring is encouraged and appreciated. All submissions due before October 32nd.

 

[Tim the student]

This could be an expensive shoot!

Going out today, I'll give it a go.

 

[Maverick223]

Cool beans; good luck, Tim!

 

[benzy2]

I really like this target for this game. I also think the distances picked for each rifle type are perfect, both centerfire and rimfire. I hope I have time this month to get to a range with a decent bench. Too little of that and too much plinking of late.

 

[Maverick223]

Thanks for the kind words, Benzy. Forgot to mention that, in the case of a tie (not terribly unlikely for this one), it will be settled by group size.

 

[Maverick223]

I can imagine, 70mi. is quite the drive to fire a couple of rounds, and man that'd be a bummer if I forgot the ammo or magazines. Wish you luck on setting up the new range.

 

[Sergeant Sabre]

I have a question about the scoring. The paragraph above said 1 paint "for each broken line". Does that mean the goal is to put rounds onto the bold vertical and horizontal lines making up a plus sign centered over the target?

 

[Maverick223]

No, the "plus sign" is irrelevant WRT scoring (I imagine it's intended purpose is to help line up the shot). The "lines" that I am referring to are the dividing lines between the individual rings/bulls. 5pts. for a shot in the center "bulls" that doesn't contact the dividing line, 4pts. for one that breaks said line, 3pts. for the innermost ring (not to be confused with the bulls), 2pts. for the middle ring, and 1pt. for the outermost ring. No points are awarded, nor penalty applied, for any shot not striking the target (be it outside the individual target or off the paper). Sorry for the confusion.

 

[dc.fireman]

What a mess...

Rain, Rain, & more rain today... It kept washing out my targets, and the bullet holes wouldn't go in cleanly - just kind of 'tore' the paper...here's the first go-round... Savage 12 BVSS, 3-9x40 scope, using my reloads, at 100 yds. - that puts me in the Unlimited Target class, I believe. I need to adjust the powder charge - the factory ammunition shows better groups than this!

I'm not sure I understand how to score these... Is this 51 points? crikey...

 

[Caddisflied]

Is this 51 points?

Maybe I counted wrong, dc. But it looks like at least a 52 from here?
Maybe more, if some of those close ones are breaking the ring?

 

[dc.fireman]

Maybe I counted wrong, dc. But it looks like at least a 52 from here?
Maybe more, if some of those close ones are breaking the ring?

I think maybe one is close to breaking the ring - the others I think were solidly in one ring or another, but due to the wet weather, tore the paper more than if it were a dry target...

But heck, I'll take a 52!

 

[Caddisflied]

Yeah, it's been raining here too, (for 3 days).

 

[KSCCHTrainer]

Geez guys, send the rain back here to Kansas! We need it. I got an indoor range available for those kind of days even if I do get yelled at for having no wind to put up with.

Waiting on the Choate "Ultimate Sniper" stock to get here tomorrow for my Savage model 10FLP Tactical .223 before I take it back out shooting.

The .308 ain't broke in yet but I'll shoot it too - might get lucky - NOT!

Jim

 

[Maverick223]

DC, it looks like you scored correctly (52 looks about right). Thanks for getting us started despite the torrential rain (sunny skies here in NC). I managed to get out today and was planning to do a bit of CF rifle shooting, but a buddy (with a couple new pistols) talked me into shooting at some steel with the pistols so I'll have to wait for another day. That said, any bad day shooting is better than a good day sitting on a rocking chair, even if it does rain or your stuck plinking with pea-shootin' pistols.

 

[dc.fireman]

In fact - I'll take shooting in the rain over going to work, any day of the year!

 

[Maverick223]

I'd take shooting in a driving rain over driving to work...unless of course I had a loud horn/siren, flashing red lights, and a big 'ole shiny chrome bumper.
(Though somehow I doubt that they let you drive that'n home)

 

[KSCCHTrainer]

Okay guys, I got the Choate "Ultimate Sniper" stock in from combatstocks.com for my lefty Savage 10flp Tactical .223. It fits perfectly and really looks good in it's new furniture. The stock is quite heavy. It has massive V blocks molded in to properly bed the action, the barrel channel is very open for free floating even quite heavy "bull" barrels. Comes with two sizes of cheek piece to match the shooter to the height of the scope and it can be mounted in 3 different fore and aft positions. There's an Anschutz type rail in the fore end and they supply a thumbscrew adjustable "slider" that has a sling stud on it for bipod mounting. There's a flat, serrated area just behind the Anschutz rail to use with a bench rest stand instead of the bipod if you prefer. Also both sides of the stock are equipped with sling studs so you can put a carry sling on it pretty much any way you like. Cost was $184.95 with free shipping. Not bad at all and even heavy as it is, I could shoot it offhand with not too much difficulty. I've also ordered a Rifle Basix SAV-1 trigger for it so I can get it down to 2.5 pounds and no creep.

Range session maybe tomorrow (with match targets along) to see if re-stocking the rifle has changed the POI from my original zero. If so, I'll re-do it and shoot this month's match. More later - and I'll re-shoot once I get the new trigger.

Jim

 

[Maverick223]

Gettin' mighty fancy with that new Savage aren't ya? Hope it works out well for you. I'm on the fence with regards to weight, my Desert Tactical SRS is so darn heavy (despite being a reasonably well-balanced bullpup) that it is near impossible to shoot offhand without the aid of some sort of support...but it sure does shoot well from prone (where the added weight comes in handy), and that is, after all, what it was really designed for anyway.

 

[KSCCHTrainer]

Okay guys, here's the "Bar" target for the October center fire match.
Class: Unlimited/Target
Environment: Indoors, 100 Yards, no wind.
Rifle: Savage Model 10 "Tactical" 24" heavy barrel .223 mounted in a Choate "Ultimate Sniper" stock - Caldwell 6-9" bipod and rear stock mounted monopod. Sitting at the table.
Optics: Sightmark 8.5-25 X 50 set to 15 power.
Ammunitioin: Serbian Surplus (Prvi Partizan) 5.56 NATO, 55 grain FMJ bullet

20 rounds, 5 rounds per target, score 100 total.

After putting the stock on the rifle I did not need to re-zero the rifle and I only used one target of the ten I printed. (I'll most likely need all the rest of them in the rimfire match.)
See post #20 in this thread for pix of the rifle/stock combo
Jim

 

[Caddisflied]

That's a sharp looking set-up and a heck of a shooter you've put together there, Jim.
I want one!
I think those Kansas Coyotes are in trouble.

 

[Orlando]

Very nice shooting. Still baffles me that you can get groups like that with Privi.
Sure you arent shooting at 50 yds
I'm envious, wish I could get groups like that with cheap ammo
Heck I would be happy to get those groups with the Hornady Match I use
Congrats

 

[KSCCHTrainer]

Very nice shooting. Still baffles me that you can get groups like that with Privi.
Sure you arent shooting at 50 yds
I'm envious, wish I could get groups like that with cheap ammo
Heck I would be happy to get those groups with the Hornady Match I use
Congrats

Hey Orlando, I wish it was at 50 yards, the targets would have been a lot easier to see even with the hi mag optics - I'm as baffled as you are about the way this rifle has taken to the cheap Serb surplus ammo. I bought a thousand round case from AIM Surplus and it came sealed in 10 box (20 rounds per cardboard box) clear plastic "battle packs". The lot number is 1101-03. Not sure what that equates to, but maybe 2011, Jan 03? your guess is as good as mine.

I had a whole bunch of people tell me that since it was 5.56 NATO instead of .223 Remington that I couldn't shoot it in anything but an AR-15. Got tired of arguing with them and since the rifle came with paperwork from the gunsmith showing rechambering to the Wylde type chamber, it's really a moot point.

I sighted it in with that ammo and so far haven't tried anything else in it. I also haven't cleaned the bore other than one pull of a dry bore snake after I finish a shooting session. Going to wait until some Federal 62 grain and 77 grain match ammo that I have on order (back ordered) gets here before trying anything different. I can't shoot the cheap SS-109 green tip stuff right now because it's not allowed on the indoor range and my friend's outdoor range is off limits for a while as he's boarding a small herd of horses and they use the 3 sided berm area for some shelter.

The Choate stock is a very definite advantage. It's massive and front heavy which stabilizes it on the bipod. The screw adjustable "monopod" under the butt end gives you a vernier adjustment so to speak, like shooting one of those ginormous bench rest rifles, but on the bipod, with a good cheek weld you still see every heartbeat with the scope at high magnification. I'm learning to time the sear break so it occurs between heartbeats and at my age (almost 70) that's becoming harder to do. To top that off, I like my coffee and you well know coffee and precision shooting are mutual enemies.

I'm usually the one that gets the bad deal and gets stuck with the lemons, like the born loser in the comic strips but for once, I won the battle. Now if only the brand new .308 Savage I bought will settle down. Way I figure it, I've got a couple hundred more rounds to go before I start taming it.

 

[Maverick223]

Excellent groups, Jim! You set the bar high.

 

[KSCCHTrainer]

Mav,
I'm going to take this gun out of the competition. It's just too easy using it and I don't want to keep others from trying. That stock makes it almost into a heavy bench rest rifle, especially with the rear monopod. Kinda like having a vernier adjustment on the elevation and the rifle clamped in a vise.

It's too heavy to shoot offhand or in one of the classic positions.

I'll re-shoot this match with the .308 next time I get to the range.

Jim

 

[Maverick223]

That is not at all necessary, Jim. You shot well, and did so with a perfectly legitimate rifle, so there is absolutely no need to drop out or use something inferior. After seeing what you can accomplish with a decent Mosin, I think your performance had less to do with the rifle than the rifleman (as is often the case).