semiauto 308 rifle question

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hello friends,

It have been a while since i post something here, due to a lot of work and family... but know thanks to a broken leg in a car accident i have a lot of time in my hands:(.

i would like to buy a new semi auto 308 rifle that is accurate enough minute-of-mansize target out to 1000 yards, it most accept optics and ironsight, price range is ~1200 for the scope and rifle.

let me know your recommendation.... remember the more money i save the more ammo i buy.

thanks a lot and safe shooting.
 
Not sure there is much in the way of autos in 308 that will do what you are asking.
 
i would like to buy a new semi auto 308 rifle that is accurate enough minute-of-mansize target out to 1000 yards, it most accept optics and ironsight, price range is ~1200 for the scope and rifle.
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Let me know when you find it. I've shot 1,000 yards for 7 years, and the weapon of choice is not an autoloader.

Don
 
you are describing a M14 / M1A type rifle. the only problem is $1200 will get you the gun but not the scope, mount and rings. just use iron sights anyways. the gun has the best irons. this gun has the best range for an automatic .308 me thinks.

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FNAR or the cheaper SX-AR from Winchester. No iron sights though.
 
I would recommend the Bushmaster 308 ORC (Optics ready Carbine). This is a 308 AR built on the DPMS model but comes with a chrome lined barrel. Sportsmans warehouse has had them for $799.00 which is a screamin deal for an AR10 style rifle. The Bushmaster ORC takes 308 Pmags just like the DPMS. It also comes with a couple of elevation blocks for mounting a scope. If you can't get it at a sportsmans warehouse they can be ordered online for a little over a thousand. Again this is a new Bushmaster AR10 style rifle not the old one that took Fal mags.

Comes with a 16 inch barrel, for targets out to 1000 yards you may want a rifle that comes with a 20 or 24 inch barrel.
 
First I think ANY of the "battle rifles" on the market today will fill your bill.

I've had a light barrel match M1A, and presently have a Enterprise Scout FAL. The M1A had tighter groups and a better trigger. But it was a match grade weapon.

The FAL is handier and easier to move around and more than accurate enough.

Personally I lusting after the Kel-Tec RFB. All it takes is money!:D
 
A few that fit your bill:

FAL

DPMS LR-308

Rock River Arms LAR-8

Norinco/Polytech M-14

I wouldn't suggest the Bushmaster ORC for 1000 yards, just because it only comes with a 16" barrel. Harder to keep them supersonic that far out with that length barrel, and if you do, it will have an inordinate amount of muzzle blast and flash.

I'd go with the FAL if you want to sacrifice a little accuracy for a lot more reliability, or the DPMS/RRA if you want the best accuracy. I'd go with the M-14 if you want the best iron sights and superb reliability, but not quite the accuracy of the AR designs.

A man-sized target is around 20" wide, which is 2 MOA at 1000 yards... I think any of the above-listed rifles could shoot that kind of group at that distance with the right ammo, and most importantly, the right Rifleman squeezing the trigger.

They make short-barreled versions of all of the above, but I would go with the 22" barrels on the FAL and M-14, and at least the 20" barrels on the DPMS and RRA.

There is also the possibility of the Saiga .308, but I hesitated to list it because I'm not sure it would hold 2 MOA to 1000 yards! I'm sure somebody will come along saying they've done it, though.
 
FNAR guarantees 1" groups at 100 so I would think it would be good for what you want. I'm pretty sure most the 20" heavy barrels shoot about .5" at 100.
 
No I haven't seen how you take them apart. I guess I was under the assumption that it was the same as the browning BAR. In other words you never have to take it apart. Just keep the barrel clean.
 
Boresnake it. That's all it needs, just like the BAR. No issues out of my SX-AR and if I feel like it's super dirty and needs a full breakdown, then I'll do it.
 
Man!

That disassembly video tells me that it the FNAR is NOT a combat rifle. It is a sporting rifle with an extended magazine attached.

Can you imagine fussing with all those pins, screws, allen screws, allen wrenches, screwdrivers pin punches, sideplates, action bars etcetcetc on a poncho, in the dark, holding a red lens flashlight in your teeth?

No way, Jose!

This rifle is best taken to the Browning-FN dealer for a cleaning whilst the gentlemen shooter retires to the lodge for a few drinks.

Compare the FNAR to the M1 or the M14. Those ARE battle rifles.
 
Umm OP didn't ask for a rifle he has to break down in the dark on a poncho. In fact, why would anybody do that who doesn't have to do that? Shoot your accurate FN rifle, come home to your heated house, disassemble in a nice clean, well lit shop, clean the rifle and reassemble it.

Never ceases to amaze me the people who live ordinary civilian lives, who drive to a shooting range, place paper targets out, shoot, drive home, go to work the next day, who insist on some sort of military standard for their rifles. Cripes! Who in the world would want to be in the dark, on a poncho, in a two way shooting range, cleaning his rifle with a flashlight in his teeth?

Man. I'd rather not.

If that potentiality resides in your mind of possibilities, may I recommend you enjoy the movie, "The Secret Lives of Walter Mitty."
 
Ok, the FNAR is a great choice. Now find the OP one for under 1200 with 1000 yard capable optics on it...

The cheapest I found through a quick google was 1230 without optics.


Stubbicatt, there are plenty of people in the world that choose to do just that so you and I don't have to. Perhaps instead of denigrating them you should say "thank you". I chose to do it at one time, and have even been considering going back to it. It's a hard life, but not a bad life.

That may not have been the intended sentiment of your post, but it didn't take any reading into it for me to get there.
 
Umm OP didn't ask for a rifle he has to break down in the dark on a poncho. In fact, why would anybody do that who doesn't have to do that? Shoot your accurate FN rifle, come home to your heated house, disassemble in a nice clean, well lit shop, clean the rifle and reassemble it.

Never ceases to amaze me the people who live ordinary civilian lives, who drive to a shooting range, place paper targets out, shoot, drive home, go to work the next day, who insist on some sort of military standard for their rifles. Cripes! Who in the world would want to be in the dark, on a poncho, in a two way shooting range, cleaning his rifle with a flashlight in his teeth?

Man. I'd rather not.

If that potentiality resides in your mind of possibilities, may I recommend you enjoy the movie, "The Secret Lives of Walter Mitty."
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I've always thought that the purpose of owning a battle rifle is to be prepared to exercise your duties as a free individual to protect liberty by force of arms if necessary, as contemplated by the authors of the Second Amendment. I don't think it is silly to want to prepare to do that, even if there is very little chance that any of us living our "cushy civillian lives" will ever have to. As I said, I think it is a duty, and that everyone who values liberty ought to prepare for it. I've said it before and I'll say it again... the purpose of a battle rifle, as well as the purpose of the right to bear arms, is to be prepared for the unlikely.
 
He didn't say battle rifle. Look at the SXAR for about $900. Pretty much an FNAR, minus a couple rails and cammo instead of black.
 
praharin the people that choose a life that would require a battle rifle are issued one. Anyone who is worried about how the FHAR is dissassembled is worrying about nothing becasue you dont ever have to dissassemble it, in the rare event that you do have to lets not kid ourselves it's not going to happen in a battle situation. Just keep the barrel clean on the FNAR and you'll have one hell of a shooter.
 
FNAR and SXAR would not work for the OP's requirements because they do not accept iron sights.

The guy asked about a semi-auto .308 that can hit a man-sized target out to 1000 yards which has irons and optics and costs less than $1200... he pretty much described a battle rifle.
 
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