Service Grade M1 Garands at the CMP

[Gun-Reck]

Don't know the condition.

Sounds like maybe good receivers, new barrels, and maybe CMP furniture.

Whatever they are, they probably won't last long.

https://thecmp.org/sales-and-service/m1-garand/

 

[CapnMac]

Service Grade from CMP is typically drool-worthy compared to the Blue Sky beaters seen at gun shows.

The value far exceeds the price paid, and typically by a long bit.

 

[rdnktrkr]

I've enjoyed mine, I asked for a shooter and they sent a great shooter, customer service is second to none, everyone in the store and at the range has been super friendly and helpful. Every time I take one to the range it brings smiles

 

[Show Me]

I was surprised mine came with a new gas cylinder.

 

[P5 Guy]

CMP purchases from the 1990s All service grade except for the top of the second photo that's a 1955 correct grade. The others including the Remington 1903A3 are 1943 vintage.

 

[mshootnit]

You will be able to find about half of them on GB in a month or two for double the price. No thanks.
CMP M1 program is not really about civilian marksmanship

 

[eastbank]

i bought this one in 2004 and ask for good shooter, and it is indeed a fine shooter and looks good too.

 

[Mars5l]

I signed up for th3 GCA today so I'm all set to buy one. A gun buddy kinda wants to make the drive upto the Alabama store since it could be a round trip in a day from Florida. I kinda would like to get there expert grade International Harvester and maybe find a cheap HRA

 

[DeepSouth]

I signed up for th3 GCA today so I'm all set to buy one. A gun buddy kinda wants to make the drive upto the Alabama store since it could be a round trip in a day from Florida. I kinda would like to get there expert grade International Harvester and maybe find a cheap HRA

If you do that make sure you’re there when the doors open, unless things have changed in the last few years.

 

[cfullgraf]

I signed up for th3 GCA today so I'm all set to buy one. A gun buddy kinda wants to make the drive upto the Alabama store since it could be a round trip in a day from Florida. I kinda would like to get there expert grade International Harvester and maybe find a cheap HRA

Around 2005 or so I made a few trips the the Anniston store. An interesting experience. It is well worth the trip.

There were lots of nice rifles on the racks but rarer examples were few and far between. Maybe things have changed since then.

I was able to find some Garands in serial number ranges I was interested in. I could inspect what I was getting.

If you want a good shooter, a CMP Special is the way to go. A new barrel and stock, and refinished metal. About as new a Garand as you can get these days.

Service grades are good rifles with some history.

Have a good trip.

 

[45/30-06OKIE]

Don't know the condition.

Sounds like maybe good receivers, new barrels, and maybe CMP furniture.

Whatever they are, they probably won't last long.

https://thecmp.org/sales-and-service/m1-garand/

$900???? I got mine for $750 in 2021 lol.
With how much M1s are listed for at gunshows, I'll be surprised if these last a week on CMPs website.

 

[cfullgraf]

$900???? I got mine for $750 in 2021 lol.
With how much M1s are listed for at gunshows, I'll be surprised if these last a week on CMPs website.

Back in the mid-2000’s, IHC Garands were scarce. I found a good refurbished one at a gun show for $1200 or $1300. I bought it. Shortly there after, IHC Garands were available from CMP for less rhan $1000. I managed to get one.

If you can find something from CMP, you probably can get it for less than on the gun show market.

 

[Madcap_Magician]

I joined the GCA last year already for the 1911 program, so I ordered my first two Garands as well. This will be my fifth and sixth WW2 surplus guns. Looking forward to it, only regret is not getting in back when Service Grades were $600...

 

[Mars5l]

Back in the mid-2000’s, IHC Garands were scarce. I found a good refurbished one at a gun show for $1200 or $1300. I bought it. Shortly there after, IHC Garands were available from CMP for less rhan $1000. I managed to get one.

If you can find something from CMP, you probably can get it for less than on the gun show market.

Last gunshow i went to last month there was about 20-30 Garands for sale. Not one of them was under $1400.

 

[cfullgraf]

Last gunshow i went to last month there was about 20-30 Garands for sale. Not one of them was under $1400.

I've not kept up with CMP Garand prices over the past few years, the last Garadn i purchased was a M1D with a reproduction scope. The prices are definitely not what I was experiencing I was 15-18 year ago.

I feel it is good that CMP is limiting what folks can buy in a year. Back in the mid-2000's, it was crazy what folks were buying. I did benefit from the relaxed restrictions but I still have every Garand, and M1 Carbines, that I bought from the the CMP.

 

[Madcap_Magician]

I've not kept up with CMP Garand prices over the past few years, the last Garadn i purchased was a M1D with a reproduction scope. The prices are definitely not what I was experiencing I was 15-18 year ago.

I feel it is good that CMP is limiting what folks can buy in a year. Back in the mid-2000's, it was crazy what folks were buying. I did benefit from the relaxed restrictions but I still have every Garand, and M1 Carbines, that I bought from the the CMP.

I wish I'd gotten in on that last batch of carbines what, like five or ten years ago?

 

[Gun-Reck]

You will be able to find about half of them on GB in a month or two for double the price. No thanks.
CMP M1 program is not really about civilian marksmanship

The point is, for American Citizens, Service Grade M1 rifles are again available through the CMP at a reasonable price.

And the CMP has never really been about marksmanship... like the original DCM.

They are a private corporation, now with a country club.

They would like nothing more that to get out of the retail rifle business and focus on classes and auctions.

 

[Gun-Reck]

$900???? I got mine for $750 in 2021 lol.
With how much M1s are listed for at gunshows, I'll be surprised if these last a week on CMPs website.

Would assume that the price increase reflects the cost of new commercial barrels.

 

[cfullgraf]

Would assume that the price increase reflects the cost of new commercial barrels.

Poor assumption.

Except for CMP Special and Expert grades, all CMP Garands have Mil Spec arsenal rebuild barrels on them. I doubt if any rifles CMP gets these days have escaped at least one arsenal rebuild and has the barrel replaced once at some point in its life. The days of untouched Garands, Correct and Collector grades, are virtually long gone.

The CMP Specials and Expert grades are overhauled rifles, new barrels and stocks, parkerized metal (Special grades only).They are about as new a Garand as you can get these days.

In the near past, folks would by a bunch of Garands and then resell them at gun shows. The price markup was what the market would bear. Buyers were unaware of CMP and that they could easily buy a Garand directly from the CMP at a price more affordable than the gun show scalpers.

In the distant past, one was limited to one Garand per a lifetime. The CMP relaxed that in the 2000's but instituted the 8 rifles per year policy fairly recently.

 

[Madcap_Magician]

Last gunshow i went to last month there was about 20-30 Garands for sale. Not one of them was under $1400.

I've always wondered, though. We talk about prices being outrageous, but really what we'd want to know is what sales are. I see the same thing. We have terrible gun shows in Minnesota (not really anyone's fault, per se, just not as much of a market for it as some other places). There's always the tables of the same old surplus rifles for $1,500-$2,000, but I've always wondered if any of those guys actually sell them, or if they just cart them around from gun show to gun show, sell a bayonet every now and then, and talk to their buddies at the gun show.

 

[45/30-06OKIE]

I've always wondered, though. We talk about prices being outrageous, but really what we'd want to know is what sales are. I see the same thing. We have terrible gun shows in Minnesota (not really anyone's fault, per se, just not as much of a market for it as some other places). There's always the tables of the same old surplus rifles for $1,500-$2,000, but I've always wondered if any of those guys actually sell them, or if they just cart them around from gun show to gun show, sell a bayonet every now and then, and talk to their buddies at the gun show.

The last part is most correct... Dad and I do gunshows as we have an FFL and sadly it's usually the same old BS every time at every other table and we actually seem cheap compared to some of the crap prices other people are charging...

 

[Gun-Reck]

Poor assumption.

Maybe, though it sounds like a lot of in spec. cast-off replacements.

SERVICE GRADE: (Good to Very Good)
Service Grade Rifles will show less wear and a better cosmetic appearance than a Field or Rack Grade. Cosmetic condition will be good to very good. Rifle finish may vary, exhibiting normal wear and/or color variation among the metal parts. May have some visible pitting, frosting, or other minor cosmetic deformity on the metal parts. Stock sets may consist of any species of wood (or combination thereof); and could exhibit dents, dings, scratches, and/or structurally insignificant cracks. New production, commercial stock sets may be used, and will likely exhibit signs of wear and prior use. Bores will be bright, and free of any major defect that would be visible to the naked eye. The exterior circumference of the barrel crown may be nicked, dented, or dinged, but such deformity will not extend into the bore. Service Grade muzzles will gauge “3 or less” and the throat erosion will gauge less than 5. A reasonable allowance for gauge tolerances will be afforded.

Manufacturer selection guarantees only that the receiver was produced by the manufacturer listed. The barrel, receiver, and other parts may have been produced by other manufacturers; and may also be of commercial origin with original, re-parkerized, or other commercial finish.

The Philippine returns were in pretty bad shape.

 

[cfullgraf]

Maybe, though it sounds like a lot of in spec. cast-off replacements.

Yes because alot of flippers want the maximum profit from a minimum investment. Buy cheap, sell inflated.

It is a good thing that CMP has limited the annual purchase number of Garands.

The ease of buying from the CMP needs to be publicized, it would limit the over priced gun show examples.

I'm happy with my Garand collection, the last one I purchased was an M1D Special in April, 2015. So, I'll leave the current CMP inventory to new buyers.

 

[cfullgraf]

While I have a number of Garands, I've set aside the Special grades for shooting. I leave the arsenal rebuild rifles "as is" for the most part.

But Service Grade Garands can be good shooters. My first Garand was built in November, 1941 and a Service grade. I shot it in competition for a while until I got an AR-15 for Service rifle matches.

 

[45/30-06OKIE]

Yes because alot of flippers want the maximum profit from a minimum investment. Buy cheap, sell inflated.

It is a good thing that CMP has limited the annual purchase number of Garands.

The ease of buying from the CMP needs to be publicized, it would limit the over price gun show examples.

I'm happy with my Garand collection, the last one I purchased was an M1D Special in April, 2015. So, I'll leave the current CMP inventory to new buyers.

M1D!!!! Nice!!! Yeah I'll second the Service grades being great shooters as well mine has slightly higher T&E readings than the paper said they did but it still shoots very well for being a January 1945 barrel.