Sexist Gunshops ...-

[sm]

I get both tickled and mad at the stereotyping of genders and stores/businessess. Not just gunshops, car repair comes to mind. Anyway...

I will never forget being out of town and being in a gunshop with a friends wife whom is a ED Doc. Petite, but CCWs a Lt. Wt Commander. Fella behind the counter is telling her she needs to look at the "little guns" instead of the "big guns". Nevermind she is looking for a gift for her dad, fella never even bothered to ask. Well I can tell she is about to lose patience. She does, when the fella said he carried a .380 , that's what she needed.

She lit into him about looking at the big bore revos for her dad, whips back her jacket to show him she CCWs a 1911..." I'm a ED Doc I'll remember this when you shoot yourself with that peashooter and end up in MY place of work, first thing I'll order is a larger foley for sure".

We left, sad thing is I bet the guy has no idea what a foley is...

 

[GySgt]

I like most of you, used to believe that women should be encouraged to shoot, dive, hunt, etc.....but I have since seen the light. Women have no business playing our games, hey we don't go to their quilting guild meetings!!! At first, they just want to be with you, then it's to keep track of you and finally...when they get just a "little" knowledge about a subject, they start thinking they know more than you and that they are the resident authority on "every" subject. Of course, when it's time to disassemble and clean their weapons, or they malfunction....they're quick to act like helpless females, because they don't have a clue how they actually operate. And before you all have your significant others light your flamethrowers, to burn me to nothing but cinders........stop and think about when men were men and women were women.....ah, the good ol' days

Yes, I know there are acceptions to the above, but the vast majority of those women either don't like guys, or are too ugly, or annoying to get and keep a man. It's really simple, we cannot join their groups, but they think they have the right to not only join ours, but to take control.......

Donning my flameproof suit..........GySgt

 

[Cosmoline]

It's a big problem. I've lost count of the number of times I've overheard salesmen talking down to female customers and encouraging them to buy something smaller. Some clerks bring their personal issues to work with them, apparently.

 

[Jammer Six]

I like most of you, used to believe that women should be encouraged to shoot, dive, hunt, etc.....but I have since seen the light. Women have no business playing our games, hey we don't go to their quilting guild meetings!!! At first, they just want to be with you, then it's to keep track of you and finally...when they get just a "little" knowledge about a subject, they start thinking they know more than you and that they are the resident authority on "every" subject. Of course, when it's time to disassemble and clean their weapons, or they malfunction....they're quick to act like helpless females, because they don't have a clue how they actually operate. And before you all have your significant others light your flamethrowers, to burn me to nothing but cinders........stop and think about when men were men and women were women.....ah, the good ol' day

You need to meet a better class of women.

 

[pax]

You need to meet a better class of women.

Jammer Six,

Naw, it ain't the women that're the problem.

pax

The Right Kind Of People

Gone is the city, gone the day,
Yet still the story and the meaning stay:

Once where a prophet in the palm shade basked
A traveler chanced at noon to rest his miles.
"What sort of people may they be," he asked,
"In this proud city on the plains o'erspread?"
"Well, friend, what sort of people whence you came?"
"What sort?" the packman scowled; "why, knaves and fools."
"You'll find the people here the same," the wise man said.

Another stranger in the dusk drew near,
And pausing, cried "What sort of people here
In your bright city where yon towers arise?"
"Well, friend, what sort of people whence you came?"
"What sort?" the pilgrim smiled,
"Good, true and wise."
"You'll find the people here the same,"
The wise man said. -- Edwin Markham

 

[GySgt]

Naw, it ain't the women that're the problem.

Spoken like one of those evil female's seeking a redistribution of power.

 

[pax]

GySgt,

That's because I am one of those evil females seeking a redistribution of power.

A firearms instructor, a friend of mine, commented recently that the only way to deal with misogynist attitudes like you expressed is to simply outshoot the guy.

I'm strangely okay with that...

pax

 

[Strings]

hmmm....

funny... we had an opposite experience when Spoon bought her USP: the guys there were fighting over helping her with the paperwork. Next gun for her will be a NM AR... planning on making sure she's confidant with the manual of arms first, then doll her up and take her to a gunshow...

 

[treeprof]

I clean her guns when she shoots, she cleans the utensils when I cook. Works for us.

I'm happy to shoot w/women, and even happier to help them learn. Most of them seem to take to it much more easily then men. I remember when my wife started shooting and got some training, she said "So you point it and shoot it, what's the big deal? Why do men overcomplicate everything?" After shooting a coupla mags with the shorty Bushmaster "Isn't it neat how all the holes are so close together?" "Yes dear, very cool. Now, can I have my gun back?".

We have some close couple friends who "don't like guys" whom I've helped learn to shoot because, above and beyond the normal concerns most of us here have for self defense, self protection against small-minded bigots is not a trivial issue where they live.

 

[Jammer Six]

Jammer Six,

Naw, it ain't the women that're the problem.

What sort of women do you think he attracts?

There's only one way to change that...

 

[pax]

Clarification --

Rereading my earlier post I see that it could have come across as a personal attack, which wasn't my intention at all.

For clearer understanding of what I meant, please read the poem in the sig on that post.

pax

 

[Barbara]

I can only think of one time I've had any kind of hassle at all and that was when a salesperson was trying to talk me into buying some kind of crap..I don't even remember the details, just remember walking out..he was just a crappy person, though, and he would have tried it with anyone he thought he could get away with it with. Most times people are decent.

Now, car repairs..that's a different story. I am not a mechanic, but I'm not an idiot, either, and more than half the places I've ever taken a vehicle to have tried to scam me. Sad, too, because once I find one I trust, I stay for years.

 

[Jammer Six]

For clearer understanding of what I meant, please read the poem in the sig on that post.

Well, if I had been paying attention, I could have kept my smart assed comments to myself.

Of course, if I knew how to do that...

 

[Jammer Six]

Sad, too, because once I find one I trust, I stay for years.

Us, too.

Back before we could afford new cars, we chose our mechanic by the simple expedient of having her take the car in to a few places.

The next day, I took it in.

We stuck with the mechanic that gave us both the same price for ten years.

I couldn't believe what we heard from some of the places, and I wondered for several years just how many blue Camaros they had all seen that day.

 

[GySgt]

Pax, Jammer and the rest of you girls......

Obviously, I need to work on my delivery......as that was meant to be
Sarcastic Humor !!!

Or, this board has become too libertarian PC.....hmmmmm?

 

[pax]

GySgt,

Ah, I get it. You were joking.

pax

The clearest indication of character is what people find laughable. -- Goethe

 

[GySgt]

Ah, I get it. You were joking.

I get it too, you weren't........

Your quotes are a clever way of driving home your opinion and insulting at the same time. You remind me of someone I used to know on a couple other forums, is that you Sharyn ?

 

[pax]

GySgt,

I have no particular desire to offend or insult you. If you found that last quote offensive, you found it so only because your "joke" was itself offensive.

Dunno any Sharyn. I'm only a member at a few boards -- here, TAC, the defunct TFL and that's about it.

pax

 

[CB900F]

Pax;

Sorry, I never found poetry able to clear anything up. If somebody wants to make it 'clear as mud' to me, all they have to do is versify it. Frankly, I quit bothering myself with it after I cleared the english requirements for a degree.

Don't have anything against females, qua females, shooting, in gun shops, riding motorcycles or much else.

Just thought I'd point out that one person's clarity, or sense of humor, or name it, can be another person's obfuscation, sore point, or whiff.

Ain't communication an adventure though?

900F

 

[justice4all]

What the heck's a foley?

 

[mnealtx]

A Foley catheter is inserted through the urethra into the bladder, where a small inflatable "balloon" keeps it in place. There are various sizes to ensure a good seal in the urethra.....

....and that whole comment just makes me *shudder*.....

 

[Aces]

Sooooo.... they were loath to even wait on her, but stand there and let her field strip the weapon without saying a word? OK.
Quite the woman, she even carries the little allen wrench needed to remove the front section of the guide rod with her at all times? Or only when shopping Springfield 1911's knowing they have the inferior two piece design?

 

[Aces]

Sounds like that shop needs a little diversity. Fire some of the redneck/republican/frat boys, and hire some bedwetting libs. Or black welfare queens. Or libertarian beret wearing latte sippers.

 

[jdkelly]

"She lit into him about looking at the big bore revos for her dad, whips back her jacket to show him she CCWs a 1911..." I'm a ED Doc I'll remember this when you shoot yourself with that peashooter and end up in MY place of work, first thing I'll order is a larger foley for sure". "



SM,

Here is a different twist on your story, it's not rip at you but just trying to look at it from a different point. I do not mean to offend.



It didn't occur to me for a couple of hours after reading your thread, but what your female Doc friend did is threaten physical harm to a male person's gentiles, while displaying a firearm.

I don't believe we (you, me and every one who has read it) would react the same, if a male Doc had threatened a female gun store employee in a similar manor.

I guess we are all sexists (me too) in our own way.


In the PC world of today you Doc friend my have violiated the clerks civil rights. It may be more criminal to threaten a person while displaying a firearm and it certainly is unprofessional.

I would hope that as her friend, that you at least bring these last few points to her attention, it may save her a world of trouble in the future.


Respectfully,

jkelly

 

[Black Snowman]

One very popular gunstore in my neck of the woods is owned by a woman and is one of the most compedative stores around. They move a LOT of used guns in particular and everyone who works there is helpful, patcient, and knowlegeable. They'd never get hired if they weren't.

If anyone is near the north side of Kansas City it's worth a side trip to Kearny, MO to visit "Great Guns".