Shooting Back UPDATE: Now Available Free For Kindle For A Limited Time

[charlvanwyk]

What would you do if armed terrorists broke into your church and started attacking your friends with automatic weapons in the middle of a worship service?

Would you be prepared to defend yourself and other innocents?

Would you be justified in doing so?

Is it time for church-goers to consider such once-unthinkable possibilities?

There is one man in the world who can address these questions with first-hand experience.
His name is Charl van Wyk, yes it's me - a South African who was faced with just such a shocking scenario.

In "Shooting Back: The Right and Duty of Self-Defense," I makes a Biblical, Christian case for individuals arming themselves with guns, and does so more persuasively than perhaps any other author because I found myself in a church attacked by terrorists.

I would love you to look for this book. You will surely blessed. ‘Shooting Back’ is a wonderful book describing the right as a Christian to carry a concealed weapon for protection of yourself and others. It is backed by Scripture and has a word for word description of an actual situation where having a pistol, clearly saved the lives of many. It is a book that should be read by believers and non-believers.

Should you like to bless someone with a hard copy or the DVD documentary, contact http://bit.ly/ShootingBackWND
Download here: http://amzn.to/SwBMKn

 

[1911Tuner]

Would you be prepared to defend yourself and other innocents?

Yes.

Would you be justified in doing so?

With an active shooter? That's pretty much a slam dunk. No challenge or warning required. No "Drop your weapon!" necessary. Shoot him.

Is it time for church-goers to consider such once-unthinkable possibilities?

Before I moved down here seven years ago, the preacher of the little church in the dell that I attended...some...had already considered the unthinkable. He kept a coach gun behind the pulpit, and gave his blessing to a few of us to carry discreetly during services.

Well aware that the congregation was vulnerable to hostile invasion because of its isloation, he explained his position by saying that part of the shepherd's role was safeguarding his flock.

 

[Sam1911]

Hi, and welcome to THR!

We certainly have discussed active shooter situations in churches, and the tactics, strategies, and laws that might apply to an active response to such.

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?p=7078050
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=649552
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=656415
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=653765
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=584454
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=562857

Lots of good info in those threads. It is a weighty situation to contemplate.

 

[beatledog7]

charlvanwyk,

How many book and DVD sales can you attribute to this post?

 

[Double Naught Spy]

Is it time for church-goers to consider such once-unthinkable possibilities?

No, here in the states, such possibilities have been going on during my life and before with terrorists attacking churches. If you haven't thought about such possibilities, you are at least a half century late.

I don't know why anyone would think churches are particularly safe. Anyone who attends church knows there to be a long history of attacks on churches around the world just as there have been on mosques, synagogues, temples, etc.

 

[buck460XVR]

charlvanwyk,

How many book and DVD sales can you attribute to this post?

If I read correctly, the Kindle version and the book itself are free. DVDs cost a whole $4.95. Not really a get rich quick scenario. While I too at first suspected it was just more spam, after following the links, I think the OP is genuinely just trying to help others.

 

[USAF_Vet]

In many places, at least here in Michigan, places of worship are unarmed victim (pistol free) zones. So while I would be justified in shooting at an active shooter, unless I had permission to carry at church, I might be facing a Conceal Weapons Violation.

But, even if I did have permission from the priest, pastor, rabbi, imam or whoever, I would have to wonder exactly what I would do. I asked myself what I would do if found in a situation like the Aurora, CO theatre shooting. My priority is for the safety of myself and family, and might not engage an active shooter, especially one with automatic weapons. I don't think the odds favor a 9mm compact over a full auto anything.

 

[ConstitutionCowboy]

Charl,

Hi, It's Woody from the "High Noon Club".

It's good to see you here!

Everyone: Charl has a message that exemplifies what self defense and the defense of freedom is all about. I highly recommend his book, "Shooting Back". I have met Charl personally and can vouch for his upstanding and outstanding character. Trust me - this is not about selling anything. It's about spreading the word.

Woody

Look at your rights and freedoms as what would be required to survive and be free as if there were no government. Governments come and go, but your rights live on. If you wish to survive government, you must protect with jealous resolve all the powers that come with your rights - especially with the Right to Keep and Bear Arms. Without the power of those arms, you will perish with that government - or at its hand. B.E. Wood

 

[ConstitutionCowboy]

USAF Vet,

It isn't so much about the arms or rate of fire. It's more about the motivation and level of determination.

Woody

 

[scaatylobo]

Temple = YES

If and when I go to a place of worship,its a Temple [ Jewish faith ] and yes I go with the assumption that there will be a heavily armed attack and I will respond.

I sit in a 'position' of cover and I listen to and watch the door,I am one of the youngest there and I know of another who when present - is armed too.

I generally carry 2 Glocks with spare mags,and if I have any reason to truly expect an attack,then I am outside in my vehicle and armed MUCH better.

Small price to pay so my 89 year old mother can go pray,along with all the others her age.

I did not ask nor do I care what their policy is.

It is not posted.

 

[Fred Fuller]

Thank you for offering this - I came here to post the news and found it already taken care of.

I bought a printed copy of the book earlier, and have recommended it to a number of people. It's a testament to faith and courage. Thank you for writing it, and sharing it.

 

[holdencm9]

"Bought" on kindle.

Thank you, I look forward to reading it!

 

[mglindo]

Also downloaded on kindle! Thank you for your service and I also look forward to reading it!

 

[beatledog7]

Apologies. Two posts and using infomercial language made me suspicious. Looks like I was wrong.

 

[Direwolf]

Just downloaded from Amazon. Thank you, Charl. I'm sure this will be a great read.

 

[Ashcons]

Thank you Charl.

 

[Skribs]

Church I used to go to, not sure I'd have to. There would be plenty of others already firing back by the time I could get a clear shot.

 

[45_auto]

Thanks, just downloaded it. Looking forward to reading it.

 

[ZXD9]

Got my copy. Hope to read on my trip this week.

 

[USAF_Vet]

DL'ed a copy also. Thanks!

 

[conw]

I don't think the odds favor a 9mm compact over a full auto anything.

Self fulfilling prophecy.

 

[Rexster]

In many places, at least here in Michigan, places of worship are unarmed victim (pistol free) zones. So while I would be justified in shooting at an active shooter, unless I had permission to carry at church, I might be facing a Conceal Weapons Violation.

But, even if I did have permission from the priest, pastor, rabbi, imam or whoever, I would have to wonder exactly what I would do. I asked myself what I would do if found in a situation like the Aurora, CO theatre shooting. My priority is for the safety of myself and family, and might not engage an active shooter, especially one with automatic weapons. I don't think the odds favor a 9mm compact over a full auto anything.

There are times that engaging is the best hope. A typical armed robbery might best be handled by "being a good witness." If the goal of an active shooter is total, systematic extermination of everyone present, engaging is the ONLY hope. "Here am I, Lord; send me. Make me fast and accurate." I did
not think those words up, myself, but drew them from the Bible, Isaiah 6:8, and a movie, "The Patriot." Good words, regardless of the source, and I have said them, sometimes aloud, and sometimes in my mind, as the situation dictated. I also swore an oath in March 1984, to put the safety of others before my own. I do not wish to be tested by a terrorist act, but I am totally at peace with the idea of engaging.

 

[Fred Fuller]

It appears the free download period to the general public has ended - thank you, Charl, for making this available. Very generous of you...

 

[j1]

To consider another question if you were a customer in a fast food store and it were being robbed would you draw and take action? An LEO would be required to but a common citizen is a different thing entirely.

 

[Sam1911]

To consider another question if you were a customer in a fast food store and it were being robbed would you draw and take action? An LEO would be required to but a common citizen is a different thing entirely

I think we've covered that question many times in other threads. I think it's getting off the specific topic that we're addressing here.