Shooting Reloads at an indoor range
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HOWARD J
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A new range opened near me---NO RELOADS
One of my sons uses new boxes with reloads
I WILL NOT VISIT THEIR BUSINESS.
THEY WILL NOT SURVIVE LONG
One of my sons uses new boxes with reloads
I WILL NOT VISIT THEIR BUSINESS.
THEY WILL NOT SURVIVE LONG
I see a lot of ranges that don't allow reloads and they seem to do just fine. Since most shooters don't reload, it likely isn't as big of an impact as you the reloader might think it is.
HOWARD J
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The last guy that had that business lasted 3 months.
It is in a shopping center--poor place for a range
RPRNY
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That Policy is "No Reloads", written differently. I wouldn't waste the 300 rounds, which they will predictably find issue with (we don't allow Standard Deviation in excess of 11 fps, sorry).
Use factory packages for your reloads and accept that the world has many problems.
Use factory packages for your reloads and accept that the world has many problems.
rfwobbly
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Time for you to join a private gun club.
someguy2800
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Well I guess I would still have no problem bringing them my bucket of 38 specials for them to look at and take a few sample rounds out for whatever they want to do with them and my note pad that I write my loading data on. I really don't see what the fuss is about. Would you rather not have any place to shoot at all?
Hanzo581
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Well, it's a private business that can choose policies how they see fit. If you don't like it, go elsewhere. Strange to see people suggesting sneak the ammo in. Have a little respect, if you had a business would you want people to abide by your rules or only the ones they agreed with?
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maddmaxx11
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This is not a club it is a public range that charges $20 a visit to shoot but you are not limited in time. Your other choice is to become a member at $40 a month and there are no range fees.
I thought the initial post was they wanted 300 rounds to pick through. Not to give them all 300 rounds. If they wanted to pick through some of my rounds and test on a chrono, fine with me. It they want to keep 300 rounds then charge them the range the same amount of money they charge for 300 rounds of ammo. Otherwise, no, no, and no.
thomas15
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Here in NE Pennsylvania there is a gun club literally under every rock. I belong to three of them but the only one I actually go to is 25 miles away. When I want to just test something, new handloads or a mod to a gun, I just go to my backyard.
clearcut
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Boy am I glad I live in the woods !
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GBExpat
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This.
loose noose
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Here in Nevada at Front Sight Shooting Academy, they require no steel cased ammo, and no reloaded ammo, I've since abided by that, but then again the only time I shoot there is when I have to qualify in order to keep my NRA Law Enforcement Firearms Instructor Card up to date, once every 3 years. Not only that you can't retrieve your own brass, but it is a small price to pay, in order to give training to America's finest. I asked one of the instructors out there once why no reloaded ammo and his reply was, "we rent guns out to shooters and we don't want to take a chance on them blowing up one of those guns". I also asked what about people like myself that bring there own guns, and he stated, "the liability". Thank God I've got my own private range that allows me to shoot whenever I want and use whatever ammo my little old heart desires. I do understand there reasoning though. However I would still tell that range to go pound sand if they wanted 300 of my hand loaded ammo. BTW they do have people come and pick up the brass and re-sell it to vendors, got to make a profit.
RPRNY
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And don't jay walk either!
Hanzo581
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Meh, forget it, not worth arguing.
GBExpat
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Good decision ...
JeffG
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I'd be gone, lots of other places to shoot.
CZ9shooter
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This range in the OP sounds like a joke to me.
I used to frequent an indoor range where reloads were ENCOURAGED.
There was some sort of fire at one time. It was blamed on steel core/jacketed ammunition. They enacted a no steel ammo rule. They'd check incoming ammo with a magnet. Not me though. I'd open up my bag and they see my ammo boxes with load info on them. He'd say something like "it's though to find steel reloading components" and wave me by.
Picking up brass was fine too as long as you didn't bother others to do it.
I used to frequent an indoor range where reloads were ENCOURAGED.
There was some sort of fire at one time. It was blamed on steel core/jacketed ammunition. They enacted a no steel ammo rule. They'd check incoming ammo with a magnet. Not me though. I'd open up my bag and they see my ammo boxes with load info on them. He'd say something like "it's though to find steel reloading components" and wave me by.
Picking up brass was fine too as long as you didn't bother others to do it.
It's nothing more than a way to force customers to help the range's profits.
There was one range that pulled that crap but they tried to be more creative. They let people shoot their own handloads, but they charged an extra $10.00 if they didn't buy their factory ammo or their reloads. That was a dead giveaway that it wasn't a "safety issue." How could it be a safety issue if a customer brought their own factory ammo? I wrote to the range's owner and the gun shop that gave free passes to that range with gun purchases. The gun shop owner must have been really mad & had a big argument with the range's owner because the range's owner phoned me & left a nasty message. He was angry that I told the shop owner about the $10.00 penalty for bringing our own ammo instead of buying the range's overpriced reloads - which were priced HIGHER THAN FACTORY AMMO.
There was one range that pulled that crap but they tried to be more creative. They let people shoot their own handloads, but they charged an extra $10.00 if they didn't buy their factory ammo or their reloads. That was a dead giveaway that it wasn't a "safety issue." How could it be a safety issue if a customer brought their own factory ammo? I wrote to the range's owner and the gun shop that gave free passes to that range with gun purchases. The gun shop owner must have been really mad & had a big argument with the range's owner because the range's owner phoned me & left a nasty message. He was angry that I told the shop owner about the $10.00 penalty for bringing our own ammo instead of buying the range's overpriced reloads - which were priced HIGHER THAN FACTORY AMMO.
armoredman
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I hear about places like this and I just shake my head. When I worked at an indoor range, our rules were "you don't shoot reloads in our rental firearms". Rent a gun, buy factory ammo. Want to pick up brass? Here's a broom, need a trash bag? Only things we absolutely did not allow was an rifle over 22lr, (backstop was old and kind of weak), and no black powder - the smoke would foul the range for a long time before the blowers could catch up.
Now I shoot at a free, city maintained outdoor range, and the ostensible rule is no picking up brass, but since it is un monitored, I have personally only seen it used for running off a vagrant who come out to pick up brass for recycling. I never come home with less brass than I went with, and usually quite a bit above. Brass rats come out Sunday and Monday morning to sweep up what they can find, more power to them. One time I found a woman picking up my brass as I was shooting, and I immediately quit shooting my semi auto and went to the bolt action rifle that I could control where my empties went. It wasn't worth the confrontation of a few empty 9mm.
I hope you can find a solution to this issue, because I would probably smile, nod, thank them for their time, and exit with no intention of ever returning.
Now I shoot at a free, city maintained outdoor range, and the ostensible rule is no picking up brass, but since it is un monitored, I have personally only seen it used for running off a vagrant who come out to pick up brass for recycling. I never come home with less brass than I went with, and usually quite a bit above. Brass rats come out Sunday and Monday morning to sweep up what they can find, more power to them. One time I found a woman picking up my brass as I was shooting, and I immediately quit shooting my semi auto and went to the bolt action rifle that I could control where my empties went. It wasn't worth the confrontation of a few empty 9mm.
I hope you can find a solution to this issue, because I would probably smile, nod, thank them for their time, and exit with no intention of ever returning.
Dudedog
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The indoor range were I used to shoot required to you to buy their ammo and targets with the inexpensive membership, if you had the more expensive membership you could bring your own targets and reloads.
They checked with a magnet for steel in bullets or cases but once the guys knew you it was just a quick check. (they checked maybe one box out of my supply)
One thing I would mention to all people who shoot at indoor ranges is get your lead level checked. Mine was sky high so I would say the indoor range I was at had ventilation issues. Many do some don't.
It was nice because it was close to me but I did not renew my membership after shooting there for a couple years because of the lead issue.
(after I stopped shooting there my lead levels came way down, so it was not reloading or shooting at the outdoor range that was causing the issue)
I can't see giving them 300 rounds but if they want a random sample of maybe 5 from the 300 that does not seem like a big deal. A far as logs that's kind of nuts (as you could put anything on paper) but maybe they just want to see logs to kind of make a quick judgement about your reloading practices. Only you can decide if it's worth the hassle.
If the people are decent it might be worth it, if they are all jerks I would try to go elsewhere.
I just was checking my fake logs and saw 49.7gr of H1000 with a 200gr bullet in 9mm was giving me 1000 fps. Wonder if that would even raise any eye brows.
(the above is not a real load just something I thought up for range Nazi's to look at)
They checked with a magnet for steel in bullets or cases but once the guys knew you it was just a quick check. (they checked maybe one box out of my supply)
One thing I would mention to all people who shoot at indoor ranges is get your lead level checked. Mine was sky high so I would say the indoor range I was at had ventilation issues. Many do some don't.
It was nice because it was close to me but I did not renew my membership after shooting there for a couple years because of the lead issue.
(after I stopped shooting there my lead levels came way down, so it was not reloading or shooting at the outdoor range that was causing the issue)
I can't see giving them 300 rounds but if they want a random sample of maybe 5 from the 300 that does not seem like a big deal. A far as logs that's kind of nuts (as you could put anything on paper) but maybe they just want to see logs to kind of make a quick judgement about your reloading practices. Only you can decide if it's worth the hassle.
If the people are decent it might be worth it, if they are all jerks I would try to go elsewhere.
I just was checking my fake logs and saw 49.7gr of H1000 with a 200gr bullet in 9mm was giving me 1000 fps. Wonder if that would even raise any eye brows.
(the above is not a real load just something I thought up for range Nazi's to look at)
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Ahh, it's a club. Perhaps the "rules" are for "non-members" only? I found a club/range like that in downtown LA, harsh restrictions on non-members, but lax for members...
Yeah, it's a business. But would you go to a small restaurant (not a chain) that had a cover charge just to buy a hamburger? Would you go into a gun store and have to show you were financially capable of making a purchase? I don't have a problem with ranges that have silly restrictions, I just don't use them, like I wouldn't go to a sandwich shop that had a cover charge...
Yeah, it's a business. But would you go to a small restaurant (not a chain) that had a cover charge just to buy a hamburger? Would you go into a gun store and have to show you were financially capable of making a purchase? I don't have a problem with ranges that have silly restrictions, I just don't use them, like I wouldn't go to a sandwich shop that had a cover charge...
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