Shooting with Finnish Mosin m/28-30

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Here is little video of me shooting m/28-30. M/28-30 is improved Mosin Nagant 1891. Barrel, sights, stock and trigger is Finnish and receiver and bolt is original. Very smooth shooting and accurate rifle.
I am shooting old Finnish civil guard shooting drill from 1929 shooting book( Ampumakirja). Good and challenging exercise suitable for modern days and modern rifles too.

 
Rock on!

What are your loads?
I use PPU or Norma brass, CCI primer, 43.5grns Varget powder and Finn "D" bullets, when I can buy a bunch.

The M28/30 was my first Mosin action'd rifle, and my love for Finn Mosins is as strong as ever in my heart and my gunrack
 
Shot a deer with a M27 Finnish. It was wonderful to be able to buy Finnish Mosin Nagants for less $100, went through racks of them with a cleaning rod, looking for like new barrels. I thought this was neat, an American made Mosin Nagant, made for the Czar, but somehow ended up with the Finns.

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for whatever reason, the M28-30 was much harder to find than Finnish M1891's. Maybe they were used up. The Finns were very pragmatic, the Mosin Nagant action is clunky, but they must have found a warehouse full of the things, and it was only a matter of time till Russia invaded again. So, the Finns improved, and improved, their battle rifles around the Mosin Nagant action, till their Mosin's were the best battlefield Mosin's made by anyone.
 
I use Sako Range 123gr factory loads in my m/28-30. I also consider reloading because of ammo prices and availability. With m/39 I use Sellier&Bellot 180gr ammo. Both Finns are great shooters. M/39 little smoother and easier to load with stripper clips.
 
Jarkko said:
Here is little video of me shooting m/28-30. M/28-30 is improved Mosin Nagant 1891. Barrel, sights, stock and trigger is Finnish and receiver and bolt is original. Very smooth shooting and accurate rifle.
I am shooting old Finnish civil guard shooting drill from 1929 shooting book( Ampumakirja). Good and challenging exercise suitable for modern days and modern rifles too.

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Practice working the bolt without dropping the rifle from the shoulder. You'll improve your time quite a bit.
 
I do love the old Finnish rifles. I once owned an M28. Pristine condition, a real work of art and collector's piece. Unfortunately somebody had fired it with corrosive military ammo and not cleaned properly so it just didn't shoot well. Ended up selling it to someone more interested in the looks than the shooting capabilities.

I replaced it with an M39 that looks like it went to Leningrad and back. 1943 dated and built on an antique Sestroroyetsk receiver. Looks like hell on the outside, but the bore was pristine. This one shoots. It's not my inherently most accurate rifle. Some Swiss guns and an M96 Mauser take those prizes, but it is "good enough for government work." It shoots practically...field positions...better than it groups from a bench, as well as any rifle I own. The trigger is outstanding for a 2 stage military trigger and the sights, bolt throw and function from magazine are flawless (I did have to replace the magazine follower with a Russian one). It is my favorite rifle to just "shoot around" with, being quite accurate with the cheap Czech surplus ammo I have a big pile of. One shooter borrowed it for an American match and gave me and my Swiss K-31 a serious challenge using a D166 approximation load. I think with some more practice on that rifle, he may have beaten me!
 
Slamfire said:
Shot a deer with a M27 Finnish. It was wonderful to be able to buy Finnish Mosin Nagants for less $100, went through racks of them with a cleaning rod, looking for like new barrels. I thought this was neat, an American made Mosin Nagant, made for the Czar, but somehow ended up with the Finns.
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Thanks for sharing, Slamfire. I had a New England Westinghouse which shot very well with surplus ammo. I am told they are all stamped "1915" Mine had the "SA" stamp in a rectangle so it was also in Finnish hands at one point in it's life. I would post a pic but I sold it to the Associate Historian at the Rock Island Arsenal when I was working there. He took one look at it and said "You gotta sell me that!"
 
M28's and 28/30 were made by SAKO for the Civil Guard and civilians.
There were fewer made than the Finish Army's M-27, M-91's, M-24's and the later M-39's.

M-28, 28/30 and the armys M-27 production stopped when the M-39 was adopted by both the Army and Civil Guard, just before the Winter War. Its production was put on hold, and then produced by both at Valmet 'VKT' and SAKO just after the Winter War.
M-39's came into regular issue during the Continuation War a couple years later, and after.
Attrition was so high that after the war, with the Civil Guard dissolved, the Army kept all the rifles.
 
The thing about this family of rifle, is the Finn re builds are seen as the cream of the crop, and I really thought that as well. I have a Westinghouse (really need to find that Remington) and it really changed my view on them. I really think 99% of these things are just so worn they don't give you a good picture on what the rifle could do when fresh, how it felt when fresh. This thing looks like it was accepted yesterday, not sure where it was, but it is one of the better mosins I have seen. The markings are very crisp, as well as the gun in general, it does not "feel" like a "normal" mosin at all....much tighter.

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The "US Mosins" were new when we acquired them through default when the Russian Civil War knocked Russia out of the First World War.
They were never issued for combat, except during our Russian Revolution incursion with the "Polar Bears" who left all their Mosins in Arkhangelsk when the US withdrew.

Im also thinking your US Mosin is , actually, the closest to 'new' outside of post war Finn M-39 builds.
Many M-28's look/are fairly unused as they were sold to civilians and Civil Guardsmen. Most went to war, quite a few stayed home.

I have one, too, a 'N.E.W.' New England Westinghouse that was used by the US as a training rifle. A Remington would be awesome.
 
caribou said:
The "US Mosins" were new when we acquired them through default when the Russian Civil War knocked Russia out of the First World War.
They were never issued for combat, except during our Russian Revolution incursion with the "Polar Bears" who left all their Mosins in Arkhangelsk when the US withdrew.

Im also thinking your US Mosin is , actually, the closest to 'new' outside of post war Finn M-39 builds.
Many M-28's look/are fairly unused as they were sold to civilians and Civil Guardsmen. Most went to war, quite a few stayed home.

I have one, too, a 'N.E.W.' New England Westinghouse that was used by the US as a training rifle. A Remington would be awesome.
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And that long forgotten little deal in russia after the war, I have read that the US made guns had more issues over the russian guns with their sloppy standards I guess I will say.

We look back today and think just what would the world be like if they had followed through after WWI and supported the white russians.
 
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