Short and lightweight suppressor advise

[HoosierHunter128]

I recently was awarded the right to own a CGS Hyperion by uncle sam. I bought one after blowing out my left eardrum shooting a CA Mesa 6.5 creedmoor with a muzzle break and no hearing protection while whitetail hunting in 2021 Indiana deer season. After multiple $1100 steroid shots to my ear drum, I'm back to normal now. I have a 12 year old boy that'll be deer hunting with me and able to shoot this year for the first time, and I didn't consider the fact that I'd like for any shot around me to be suppressed too. He won't sit by himself for a couple years yet. I also don't want the same thing that happened to me to happen to him. My thought is, that Hyperion is awesome, but very long and I now want to buy a short suppressor to be able to add to my 17 HMR for squirrel hunting, and for him to use while deer hunting with me. I'm looking at the Sandman S, or even Sandman K. This will be a secondary can that will mostly be used for a couple shots a year for my boy on his 7mm-08, and I can also use to suppress my 17 HMR. I want it short because when squirrel hunting I'm in the thick of it and want light and short, and also because I don't want to add a bunch of weight or length to a youth rifle. What do you guys think? That sandman is pretty $$$ for the little we'll use it. Any better recommendations?

 

[HoosierHunter128]

I will say purchasing through Silencer Shop, and doing the E File, I bought in December 2021 and got approved this week, so it took 6 months instead of.... a very long time. But, I don't have that 5 months now, and hopefully I'd get it in time (3 months) for youth season.

 

[greyling22]

if it's a 22 caliber, the new dead air can is not much bigger than a 22 cal can. The yhm resonator (30 cal) or turbo K (223) are supposed to be pretty good.

from what my hazy memory recalls, 10 decibles doubles the loudness. 2-3 decibles is not supposed to be a difference you can hear. You will also hear folks talk about "tone." some cans make a deeper sound, like a 45 vs a 9mm, that is more pleasing to the ear.

quick detach cans add expense and weight. I still like to wear ear plugs when I shoot suppressed. Can's knock the sound down to about what an unsuppressed 22lr sounds like. more or less. you won't blow out an eardrum, but it's not hearing safe.

 

[HoosierHunter128]

if it's a 22 caliber, the new dead air can is not much bigger than a 22 cal can. The yhm resonator (30 cal) or turbo K (223) are supposed to be pretty good.

from what my hazy memory recalls, 10 decibles doubles the loudness. 2-3 decibles is not supposed to be a difference you can hear. You will also hear folks talk about "tone." some cans make a deeper sound, like a 45 vs a 9mm, that is more pleasing to the ear.

quick detach cans add expense and weight. I still like to wear ear plugs when I shoot suppressed. Can's knock the sound down to about what an unsuppressed 22lr sounds like. more or less. you won't blow out an eardrum, but it's not hearing safe.

I've never worn hearing protection while hunting, and have shot unsuppressed for years, but that damn muzzle break beat my ear up. Now I'm afraid after I messed up, that I need suppressed just to not mess up my ear again, and of course I don't want what happened to me to happen to my son. I'll never shoot with a muzzle break again... I just don't see the risk/reward. I'm ok with shooting a 22LR with no hearing protection. If I can get a big bore rifle to be at a 22LR I'm fine, and am content with my boy at that decibel too. I just want to find the best option for a short, lightweight can that will work and isn't $1000. The sandman S is $849 on silencer shop, plus all the taxes and fees brings me up to $1,100. Just wondering if there's a better option...

 

[HoosierHunter128]

I've never worn hearing protection while hunting, and have shot unsuppressed for years, but that damn muzzle break beat my ear up. Now I'm afraid after I messed up, that I need suppressed just to not mess up my ear again, and of course I don't want what happened to me to happen to my son. I really need to be able to hear what's going on around me, and even with the best muffs with the microphones, they just don't do the trick. I'll never shoot with a muzzle break again... I just don't see the risk/reward. I'm ok with shooting a 22LR with no hearing protection. If I can get a big bore rifle to be at a 22LR I'm fine, and am content with my boy at that decibel too. I just want to find the best option for a short, lightweight can that will work and isn't $1000. The sandman S is $849 on silencer shop, plus all the taxes and fees brings me up to $1,100. Just wondering if there's a better option...

 

[greyling22]

others may weigh in, and there are lots of cans out there, but these fit the bill.

https://hansohnbrothers.com/shop/yhm/silencers/223-caliber/yhm-turbo-k/
https://rexsilentium.com/MG7-K-Rifle-Suppressor-308-p148939100
https://www.eccomachine.net/our-suppressors/ the aquilae

personally, I'd rather have the extra 1.5" of suppressor and a shorter barrel than a fill length barrel and a short can.

 

[HoosierHunter128]

others may weigh in, and there are lots of cans out there, but these fit the bill.

https://hansohnbrothers.com/shop/yhm/silencers/223-caliber/yhm-turbo-k/
https://rexsilentium.com/MG7-K-Rifle-Suppressor-308-p148939100
https://www.eccomachine.net/our-suppressors/ the aquilae

personally, I'd rather have the extra 1.5" of suppressor and a shorter barrel than a fill length barrel and a short can.

I don’t want to cut the barrel of an already shortened youth rifle. My boy’s rifle is a youth browning xbolt.
https://www.browning.com/products/firearms/rifles/x-bolt/x-bolt-micro-composite.html

It’s only a 20” barrel to start with. Thanks for the additional options