Should firearm safety be taught in public schools?.....

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Here in the Great Free State of Livingston Parish Louisiana we still know what important values need to be taught in our public schools. Every third grade student is given a bible and every jr. high student goes through the Hunters Safety Course and gets their card. They even go behind the school and shoot skeet with a shotgun. Go figure.....and no shootings in our schools in spite of all of that. Most of our crime comes from Baton Rouge and Katrina residue.
 
Let’s just say government schools were willing and capably of teaching firearms use and safety to the same competence level that they currently teach Reading, Mathematics, History, …., would anyone feel comfortable with their instruction on firearms? Generally speaking, the government fails at preparing public school students for life beyond school. To assume they are capably of instructing the use of firearms with greater success than they currently do with basic reading and comprehension would be foolish.

Let’s not forget, the purpose of government education was never to cultivate critical thinking skills; it was instituted to produce loyal, productive subjects of the state.

For any that question the need to abolish publicly subsidized education and would cite fairness as the reason to keep this failed system in place, please explain to me how you feel it’s fair that I am forced to pay for a substandard public school system that I do not use, while also paying for my children’s education through a private school. That puts a huge burden on my family’s budget, but it’s just a small sacrifice when viewed in the context of the alternative.
 
Yes.
In Elementary school, in the '80's and in CANADA of all places, we were all taught firearms safety by the local RCMP.

Since we had a Canadian Forces Airbase and several training grounds nearby we also had the DND guys and the RCMP tell us about explosives, and don't touch, tell a grown up etc...

I see nothing wrong with doing the same now.
 
It might be a good idea to have courses available in it, but I don't really think it needs to be something offered by our schools because it just doesn't seem that relevant to student life. As someone else said, a lot of teenagers would take advantage of a driver's ed course, how many would really take advantage of a gun safety course?

On the other hand I remember that when I was a kid, the Boy Scouts were actively involved with the elementary school I went to, and they had a gun/hunting safety course that a lot of the kids went through before going on hunting trips with their fathers, so I think for the students that are interested in such a thing there's already other avenues to explore.
 
I think they should offer general marksmanship. That way the homies would actually use the sights (instead of holding it sideways) and hit what they're aiming at so less innocent people will be hurt or killed in the crossfire and they'd be more effective in "thinning out the herd". JMHO, YMMV.

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My concern with teaching firearms safety in public schools would be that it would be taught poorly. The four rules are the keystone of firearms safety; yet many of the larger government organizations that deal with firearms do not teach the four rules and instead rely on keeping the firearm in an unloaded or unready state rather than proper training.

If your whole approach to firearms safety is to ignore the first of the four rules or try and create zones where Rule #1 isn't necessary, then that approach is going to fail. Not only will it fail; but the bad habits it develops will make a real firearms safety program that much more difficult to implement.
 
When you dont teach gun safety at home you must remember that there are alot of firearms and alot of gun owners so the chances are they will run across a gun and be curious. With out proper safety and handling knowlege, someone could get hurt or worse...please even if you are opposed to guns, let our kids get proper instructions on how use and handle firearms and to save lil sally from sister susy if you own firearms teach your kids at home. Remember..."Curiousity killed the cat" (but what do I know I'm just a SC Redneck...)
 
With out proper safety and handling knowlege, someone could get hurt or worse...please even if you are opposed to guns, let our kids get proper instructions on how use and handle firearms and "to save lil sally from sister susy" If you own firearms teach your kids at home. Remember..."Curiousity killed the cat" (but what do I know I'm just a SC Redneck...)
 
My daughter is in first grade. She came home today with a coloring book that had "Stop! Don't touch. Leave the area. Tell an adult." on the bottom of every page. Yup, we have Eddie Eagle in our schools. Doesn't bother me a bit.

That said, when I asked her if she was going to tell me every time she saw a gun in the house, she just looked thoughtful and said "Well... only the ones I think you don't know about already!"

That's one thing about seeing her dad and me work on them and handle the all the time - they're about as interesting as the couch to her at this point.
 
In my senior year of high school, I had a US Government class. In that class we learned about how the government (theoretically) works, including what our rights mean and how to exercise them. We barely covered the 2nd amendment (because "what else is there besides 'you can own them and no one can tell you you can't'?"), but it WAS part of the curriculm. If safety were taught, I think it should be mandatory and part of a US Gov't class since it'd be teaching how to exercise a right.

Anyway, there's sex ed which doesn't teach abstinance exclusively (which I'm sure more than a few ultra-conservatives don't like). Why not gun safety that doesn't teach avoidance exclusively? It's called "COMPROMISE", liberals.
 
No, that's something that should be taught at home. Now firearm training in jrotc is acceptable. It has a merrit, but teaching it for the hell of it is kind of like showing them how to use condoms. Best taught at home where parents can expose them to their kids at the age they determine appropriate.
 
The private school I went to (baptist) actually had a firearms safety course for the middle and highschoolers as a after school seminar. Sure they used airsoft guns as the models, but the principles remained the same.

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No it should be taught at home by parents. Schools need to teach Reading, Writing and Arithmetic.

Most of the kids graduating high school today are not prepared for college nor the world.
Too many extra curricular courses and not enough core course study time.
 
I graduated from high school in 2002. LITERALLY right before I got into 9th grade, my high school had .22 rifle class as an elective. This is in NY. At a public school. go figure.
 
Yes...your generation all believe they are victims. Poor things.
Generational bias my hind end.

Not all young people think that they are 'victims'. There are a lot of young people these days who have done "everything right" who haven't been rewarded with the life they were promised. Do you know how many of your waiters, stockboys, and gas station attendants have BA's and MA's? Do you know that a great deal of them work very hard for very, very little pay? All they did was exactly what everyone told them they were supposed to do. The attitude you are expressing about these people builds a lot of generational resentment.

Not all young people are smelly hippies camping out on Wall Street. A whole lot of them are eyeball-deep in debt, working two jobs that are both beneath them, in the hopes that someday they'll reap the rewards that fell into your generation's lap. These kids didn't start the welfare state, but they're the ones who will pay for it looong after you've exhausted your 'fair share' of Social Security and Medicare. The only difference is that they'll have a lot less of a 'fair share' than you'll enjoy. I guess that's because you don't see yourself as a 'victim' like they do, right?

As far as the topic goes, I teach in an inner-city public school, and a simple "gun safety" lecture is about as far as you could legally take the idea of gun safety in the classroom. You could teach a few firearm basics, what to do if you encounter a firearm, that sort of thing. Beyond that, there is too much liability to actually have kids handling real firearms at school. Sure, most kids could handle it. But when it comes to public schools, it only takes one kid on one day to create a very regrettable situation.

I agree that it is unfortunate that more kids don't have practical experience with firearms, but this is something that would be better taught by that antiquated teaching team called 'parents'. Let's not add 'gun safety' to the long list of our children's shortcomings that we blame wrongly on public schools instead of Mom and Dad. Teaching gun safety in school sounds warm and fuzzy and nostalgic to some of you, but about an hour in my classroom would have you singing a different tune. The world has changed, parenting isn't always what it used to be, and a good portion of today's youth don't have the background knowledge or maturational readiness to handle some of the things that some of you envision. Just wouldn't work.

And by the way, I'll check back on this thread over the weekend, but come Monday, I'll be back to my 90-hour work week being a lazy, overpaid Union member, and enjoying my 'Cadillac' benefit package that is worse than my benefits were when I worked as a retail associate (which I was for five years while I worked two jobs looking for the one I've got now). And I'll do it all with a smile on my face, because I love the kids I teach, I'm proud of what I do, and I wouldn't have it any other way.
 
I think it is an excellent idea, but I also think that it will never happen, at least not without major changes to how our school system is set up and run.
They are much more likely to get the kids terrified of guns than to teach them how to safely handle them.
 
It should at least be an option.
Makes sense, not everyone would want to take that class. A big problem even in rural schools is that they make a big deal about anything that has to do with a gun. Talking about them, picture or anything like that they flip head over heels.
 
Firearms/hunter safety was taught in my 7th grade gym class. When I was old enough to drive (16), the school allowed us to keep firearms in our cars to hunt before and after school.
 
yes, it's more important these days than driver's ed. but the question is who needs it the most. The students, teachers, PTA or the school board
 
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