Should I bed my Savage?

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I just got a Savage Model 11 in 7mm-08 and am wondering about glass bedding the thing. I fixed up the synthetic stock that came with it, so I plan on keeping it in that stock. The stock has pillar bedding (two steel bushings), should I also bed the action, or is the pillar bedding good enough? If I bed the action, what brand of epoxy should I use, and where should I concentrate the bedding?
 
i would test it by putting together 5, 5 shot stirngs, shooting each string within 1 minute, then resting for 2 minutes between shot strings. If your groups stay tight, then I would say , no worries.
 
Just curious what you did to fix up your stock? I've got a 10FLP and I really like the shape of the stock but the foreend is really flexible and I was wondering if you had done something to stiffen it?

Have a good one,
Dave
 
My wife just came in and read the title of this thread over my shoulder. She asked what I was reading! No it's not porn, it's gunsmithing!
 
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I know what you mean about the stock being flimsy, I'm worried about it pushing up against the barrel when I have it on bags. All I did to the stock was cut off all that sharp flash, sand it smooth, and paint it with some Polane paint I have at work. I painted it black to start with, but that was boring, so I speckled on a little color. The color is "safety blue":
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Just curious what you did to fix up your stock? I've got a 10FLP and I really like the shape of the stock but the foreend is really flexible and I was wondering if you had done something to stiffen it?

Have a good one,
Dave

Hi Dave,

Basically Savage synthetic stocks look and feel nice but they are way too flimsy for Bi-pod use. Ultimately I went with the B&C Duramaxx stocks for my Savages great $100.00 investment. FWIW.. They are onething I suggest all Savage shooters to look into.

Anyway, before Duramaxx stocks, what I would do w/my Savage stock forends was to clear out the channel. Then Fit/lay in a threaded rod the length of the forend then accra glass it. In doing this it nicely stiffend it up and made it very useable with a Bi-pod. Once I also used a piece of galvanized chain link tentioning flat stock. Worked just as well.

Peace,
Steel Talon:cool:
 
Gotta say that "too flimsy for bipod use" comment is total B.S. !

.19" center to center 100yds 5 shot groups bipod assisted prone using the crappy factory plasitic stock.

That being said, I just restocked mine with a Choate Varmint master stock. I restocked for two main reasons, the first being a more vertical pistol grip. The second being side mounted counter sunk sling swivels.

Personally I would use an old fiberglass arrow shaft or fishing rod as reinforcement. Unless you are a master at bedding a barreled action, I'd just shoot to make the stock more rigid and let the barrel stay free floating.
 
rifle bedding

As has been said, If it shoots to your expectations, leave it alone.That being said, I have bedded all my rifle actions with noticeable improvement in accuracy. 22-250, two .270's and a .243. I bedded actions plus about an inch beyond the recoil lug using Brownell's glass-bedding compound for most. I did use JB weld, not to be confused with JB kwik which is softer and sets up too fast, and got good results.All of my barrels are floated with the exception of my black powder rifle which did not shoot worth a...er very well until I full length bedded it.
 
Wow . .that paint job looks pretty nice. (I'm impressed!)

Thanks for the suggestions guys. If it was as simple as buying a B&C stock I would but unfortunately they don't make a lefty version. I do have a few carbon fiber arrow shafts laying around though. :) (some idiot missed the mark and broke them . . . .oh yeah . .it was me. :) )

Have a good one,
Dave
 
michaelmcgo it looks like you got your bipod on backwards in the pic, but maybe you prefer it that way.

I'm worried about it pushing up against the barrel when I have it on bags
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You got nothing to worry about, I did a little test ( I scared the s*** out of the supervisor at the weight room) I brought my savage in, Lacking the bolt, and I had a lock on it, so I started stacking weights on till the stock touched the barrel. It was 35# for my rifle.

BTW nice paint job
 
My first rule of thumb is don't do anything to improve the accuracy of the rifle until you see how accurate it is.

Shoot a couple of hundred rounds through it with various loads. Some factory guns have been blessed by the Accuracy Fairy <insert joke here that hooks up with "Bed my Savage"> and can hardly be improved.
 
Gotta tell you guys the only reason I did not respond was due to my reaction to the title. I have no opinion regarding the accurizing of a rifle, and my only response would have been facetious.
 
I very new to rifle accuracy, being a handgun guy, but I'm very interested in this thread since I want to get a Savage for precision shooting on a budget.

I've heard about glass bedding rifles, but this is the first I've heard about using a stiffening device, such as a fiberglass arrow shaft or piece of steel. What's the process/How do you go about putting in the stiffener? My current rifles don't have any space for a stiffening device in the front of the stock. How far back do you put the stiffener?

Thanks,

-John
 
You never know when the accuracy fairy might strike. I bought a cheapie used package savage to rebarrel to something interesting in a 6.5mm and put a nice stock on it (this one has a sort of "sproing" not unlike an AR), but when I shot it (in .30-06) it shot unbelievably well. And, so now I have yet another -06. My life is so hard. :evil:
 
The stiffening they are talking about (and I'm going to try) is hollowing out the area under your barrel (from the action to the front of the stock) and epoxying in a stiff shaft.
 
I don't see why you wouldn't bed the action.

It won't hurt your accuracy, and will likely help it.

More importantly, done right, it will improve consistancy from day to day. My Vanguard was capable of shooting <1MOA on occasion prior to bedding, but my POI would change by a few inches depending on the weather/temp./etc. And that was with the synthetic stock.

The accuracy didn't really improve when I bedded the action, but the POI wandering really did improve. Day to day, with the specific load I was using, I knew right where I would hit at 100 yards.

So, I vote, yes, bed the action.

As for which product to use, Marine-tex is what I used, some like Dev-con as well.

I.G.B.
 
Oh, about the stiffener, the idea is to replace part of the stock with something really stiff. So, you make a groove under the barrel, and put something stiff in there (Stiff and heavy or stiff and light depending on what you want) then cover it up with epoxy. When I did it, I wrapped a bunch of painters tape then duct tape over the barrel to provide some clearance so the epoxy wouldn't mess with the free-floating. (That is, so the barrel doesn't touch the stock) Then I bed the action normally. Of course, all normal bedding rules apply: release agent where you don't want stuff to stick, no release agent where you want stuff to stick, etc.

It worked pretty nicely in the rifle I tried that in, though it got *heavy*. I just used a piece of a broken three-piece cleaning rod kit.

Oh, I wouldn't by any stretch of the imagination call myself a gunsmith, so you might want to talk to someone who actually knows if what I did was a good idea or not. But it seemed to work for me. :D
 
My experience dictates my opinion, that the factory stock is flimsy..

Simply put...By stiffening the factory forestock you will see an improvement in accuracy while shooting from a Bi-Pod. Or, just replace the stock like many Savage owners (myself included) have done. Its all about accuracy improvement.

Peace
Steel Talon:cool:
 
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