SHould I buy HK91

[doctorhumbert]

I have about $2200 spare cash to spend, and I've thinking about buying NIB HK91.
Question is should I should I not?
Will AWB sunset effect its preban price?
I've also considered M1A, and DSA FAL, but I think HK wins hands down in its reliability and cool factor.
Any other suggestions to spend $2200 on .308 rifle?

 

[Steve Smith]

Shop around. I was bargaining for one in excellent condition for $1700. Things fell though, but $1800 would have had it.

 

[Hk Paul]

Its worth it, trust me.
You can allways make more if you want to sell it.
And the AW Ban does not effect the gun. The gun was banned by exec. order in 89, and that bill has no expiriartion date. Buy the HK91, you wont be sorry.
When you are ready to buy, come talk to me if you need advice on anything. If you are looking for a collector, make sure you get a matching test target and warranty card.

 

[Jack19]

No question, the 91 is cool. I had one for awhile but prefer the FAL.

The AWB sunset won't affect a true 91s' price, they're still covered by the import ban put in place by George I.

If I had $2200 burning a hole in my pocket, I'd be mulling over something from Accurracy International. I haven't priced them lately but I keep seeing their ads and got an email from them this morning. Like someone's trying to tell me something. lol Just my 220,000 cents.

 

[Nando Aqui]

SA-M1A, DSA-SA58, H&K-HK91: All great, like them very well, and take turns taking them to the range. Ask me to select just one, and it will be the HK91.

The SA58 and M1A are "slightly" more accurate, with emphasis on 'slightly'. Whether using the HK with the iron sights or the ARMS claw mounted scope, it does extremely well with surplus ammo and it is most reliable.

I don't think you'll be sorry with the HK91.

Alex

 

[Kestrel]

HKPaul,

Is there any particular import markings that are more desireable on a 91, than others? Are there any variations in the rifles, other than stock configuration?

Thanks,
Steve

 

[TechBrute]

Seriously, the HK is coooooooool , but for $2200, I'd probably buy a DSA FAL and an M1A... both.

But... NIB HK91s don't come around very often.

 

[Hkmp5sd]

Speaking of the import restrictions, any updates on HK's US plant?

 

[Hk Paul]

Is there any particular import markings that are more desireable on a 91, than others?

SteveW13:

There really isnt many. There is one or two importer markings that would make the rifle more disireable. The two importers are SACO (Security Arms Company) because IIRC, they were the first to import the HK91. The other importer would be HK of Chantilly Virgina, but only because it represents the "Golden Era" of HK. However one does not cost more than the other really, unless its a SACO.

Note that the diffrent imports do not reflect a change in quality of the gun. The gun is the same thing.

There are however, there are diffrent types of bluing. One a normal bluing, and another more of a grey bluing. It should be noted that neither are more disireable than the other as a whole. Someone may want a grey one over a blue one.

Now if you really want a collector...

Are there any variations in the rifles, other than stock configuration?

Other than that, to the best of my knowledge, no. Unless a private indivdual did so.

However there is the HK41, which is the precurser to the HK91. The HK41 is far more rare and expensive than the HK91.
Some of the HK41s came with push pin lowers, which made them very easy to convert to Full Auto. The fun police didnt like that. Hence the new "Shelf" packs.
If you would like more info, go to http://www.hkpro.com

Now, some may question on getting an NIB HK91 over somthing else.
In my opinion, if you want it, get it. I own a NIB 91.
I dont shoot it.
I dont want to.

I got it because I love HKs and owning a 91 is, to me, owning a little pice of HK history. Its the civie version of the gun that put HK on the map.
They are finley made works of art. Even though they go up in value often, and are getting harder to find, Id never sell my baby.

In my opinion, get it. You wont regret it if you appricate fine craftsmanship, and history.

Also, dont forget, you can allways buy other guns too.

 

[SodaPop]

Nice gun but not worth the money.

Unless you're one of those guys that wants to brag about it.

 

[uglygun]

For 2200 I'd be carefully considering whether I wanted to finally take the leap into the realm of the 50BMG rifles, another 300 or so and an AR50 can be had....


I got my 308Win semi, I really like my AR10 A4. Gonna have it built into an accurized 260Rem with the addition of a 2nd upper.

But an actual HK91 would be hard to say no to simply because their numbers are capped with or without the 94 AW ban. Probably the best of all "battle rifle" 7.62Nato/308Win rifles with reference to durability and reliability. Not too keen though on aftermarket support, not a wealth of accesories or aftermarket kits much less people who can do professional work on them.

Sorta the reason I went AR10, it's like the chevy of the gun world in terms of parts availability for the AR family.

 

[guy sajer]

You will enjoy it . Luckily , I bought mine when they were much less expensive .

 

[JShirley]

doc,

I think the '91 has the ergonomics of a brick. I think there would be a great deal of debate as to whether a DSA is less reliable, but there is no question that some folk think highly of the HK.

John

 

[uglygun]

LOL, yeah that's the other reason I went for the AR10. Ergonomics much better.

I think HK advertisements should go as such, "Designed for wookies, by wookies". One needs chewbacca hands to work some of the controls.

 

[JShirley]

Speaking of DSA reliability (from FAL Files):

 

[JShirley]

A few minutes later...

 

[Tamara]

I don't believe I've ever heard a piece of stamped sheet metal referred to before as a "finley made works of art" that is for people who "appricate fine craftsmanship".

Mine's an "IC" date code. I keep the collapsable stock on it to make it handier to transport to and from the range. I shoot the bejabbers out of it about once a month and keep it "cruiser ready" as my house rifle. The prices on them are obscene for a stamped sheet-metal clone of a military rifle, but that's what goofy government price-fixing plans will do to you. While the charging handle may be more awkward to employ than that on any other common military rifle, and the lack of a bolt hold-open feature is supremely annoying, I find that for me it handles and points better than the big competitors in the .308 rifle arena, and the plethora of (admittedly high-priced) accessories and super-cheap full-capacity mags cinched the deal.

Do you want one? Then it's worth it.
Does it fit a niche for you better than anything else? Then it's worth it.
From a purely objective standpoint? An HK-91 is a swell $850 rifle.

 

[Wildalaska]

We just had one rebuilt at HK..it had been shot "too much"...

$700!!!!!!!!!

WildnothanksAlaska

 

[Feanaro]

From a practical stand-point, it's not worth that much money. It's a great battle rifle(this posters favorite) but unless you just want to own a REAL HK, like spending large wads of money or just want the value of a real HK91 then a G3 rebuild might be a better value. Buy a reciever from Century Arms and send it to these guys, www.investmentgradefirearms.com .

Of course, if you are hell bent on a real HK 91, have at it. It's your dough.

 

[Jack19]

I'll second Feanaro's recommendation of Jayson at IGF as a builder, I have one of his FALs and it is absolutely beautiful work. Better, I think than factory Belgians.

Jayson has this rifle for sale on his website:


$1150.

 

[Steve Smith]

Questions about IGF

OK, it looks like they use Special Weapons receivers for several guns. I recall a "Todd" fellow and a Special Weapons company that no one would buy from. Is this the same company? Is IGF the next version of Special Weapons? Are the two owned by the same guy? How is the quality of work from IGF? I'd appreciate all the comments you can supply regarding this.

 

[Hkmp5sd]

An S-E-F for $1150? I'll take a dozen!

 

[Jack19]

I don't think there is any relationship between IGF and "Todd" at SW.

Like I said above, I have one of IGF's FALs and it is fantastic. The quality of work is nothing like what the reputation of SW was. Jayson is a stand up guy and doesn't deserve to be compared to the old SW company.

You can buy a FMP/US receiver through FAC. Now, who's doing the finish work, in the US, on those imported, but not finished, FMP "receivers," I dunno. I've heard good things but have not seen one personally. Call Harlan at FAC and ask.

 

[Chipperman]

Why do you want NIB? Are you going to fire it? If not, reliability is meaningless.
I love mine, but saw no reason to spend another $400 for NIB. I shoot mine.

Put the extra $400 toward lots of mags, A3 stock, different forearms, spare parts, etc.

BTW, original HK alloy mags can be had for $1.99 each now. At that price, they're practically disposable. I just bought another 20 last week.
What other .308 battle rifle has 20 round mags for 2 bucks?

 

[plnkr1234]

Hi Guys,

Not to hijack the thread, but were can I find a NIB for $2200 or even an excellent condition HK91 for $1800. In MA, I've only seen good to excellent for around $2500.

Thanks.