Should Mandatory Skills Training Be Part of the Curriculum of Receiving a CWP?

[savanahsdad]

I think we all know some people that own guns that should not have them in their possession. Some of them have CHL permits as well.

As a truck driver I'm here to tell you that they're far more people with cars that should not have them , they get MANDATORY training and have permits and been around them all there lives , and still..............

you can't fix stupid . mandatory or not ,

 

[Officers'Wife]

As a truck driver I'm here to tell you that they're far more people with cars that should not have them , they get MANDATORY training and have permits and been around them all there lives , and still..............

you can't fix stupid . mandatory or not ,

^^^^^^^^^ this ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

 

[oneounceload]

I think we all know some people that own guns that should not have them in their possession.

Or knives, driver licenses, baseball bats, power tools, and on and on; should the government restrict those and require all sorts of mandatory training?

 

[oneounceload]

As a truck driver I'm here to tell you that they're far more people with cars that should not have them , they get MANDATORY training

I have yet to see a state that MANDATES it (talking about non-commercial for cars). Most insurance companies want you to have it to help keep your costs (and theirs) down. I showed up at a GA DMV license with nothing more than a desire to get a DL. I made 4 left turns at corners and pulled straight into the same spot I left. Got my license in 5 minutes. That was several deacades ago.

What scares me is the guy with the 48" Class A motorhome pulling a car and possibly a trailer or boat so that he is longer than a semi and yet needs no training or certification in turning, backing up, or slowing down and changing lanes

 

[cliffhangernlv]

Not just No but H__L No. Again it breaches "shall not be infringed"

 

[jlr1962]

Or knives, driver licenses, baseball bats, power tools, and on and on; should the government restrict those and require all sorts of mandatory training?

Load, are you saying that you don't know one gun owner that should not own guns?

 

[Salmoneye]

It's obvious we can't have every slobbering idiot out at the range shooting every thing up, let alone out on the streets with a firearm.

Nothing obvious about that...

I have never known anything other than 'Vermont Carry'...

Still waiting for the rivers of blood...

*yawn*

 

[gamestalker]

No.

Not only no, but IMO law abiding citizens shouldn't even be required to have a CWP to carry, nor should open carry be restricted.

Having lived most of my adult life in Arizona, OC has been unrestricted for as long as I have carried here. And we dropped the requirement for a CWP in 2010. Considering both of those particulars, we have an extremely low incidence of accidents.

As for the advantages associated with training, that's an obvious assessment. An individual with good training, and who has maintained their skills, is going to have a major advantage in a SD situation in most instances. But this doesn't mean we as responsible civilians can't research and develop drills and effective practice routines.

GS

 

[short barrel]

The question wasn't put to me, but no, I don't know one person that shouldn't own a gun. (Felons excluded.)

I'm of the opinion it's either our absolute right, or it's not. I don't even like the thing about taking an on-line course to get a c/c. That steps on our rights too.

I'm saying I believe in the Constitution. If it says it, I agree. If it prohibits something, I agree. I don't see how states can have a say in what is federally protected. Just don't get it.

 

[oneounceload]

Load, are you saying that you don't know one gun owner that should not own guns?

Nope, not really anyone I can think of that does own guns that would be a safety risk, even the old guys I shoot with. Some are 87, still drive, and can shoot their shotguns with the best of them. One of those gents has been shooting/hunting since he was 6 so that is 81 years of experience..........I'm hoping I am still alive and not just sitting and drooling on myself at that age!

 

[barnbwt]

You know folks, there's a simple way to ensure all receive proper training without restricting their freedoms; mandatory education of minors. That's what we do with all other knowledge (supposedly) necessary for one to be a responsible, productive member of the community, that we are unable to force upon adults by way of restriction. At least then everyone gets a shot at doing the right thing; you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink. Legislating responsible behavior is even less possible than morality.

TCB

 

[Bezoar]

no two states can agree on when alcohol should/can be sold on sundays or if restaurants can or should or when to tell alcohol on sundays.

"in god we trust" is on our money, and in the constitution and bill of rights. yet we cant even have the freedom to enforce religous values in our school systems. i swear somewhere in the bible is a rule that is violated by having half my local school teachers be unwed mothers..

 

[JSH1]

The question wasn't put to me, but no, I don't know one person that shouldn't own a gun. (Felons excluded.)

I'm of the opinion it's either our absolute right, or it's not. I don't even like the thing about taking an on-line course to get a c/c. That steps on our rights too.

So you don't believe the right to keep and bear arms in an absolute right. After all, there is a whole category of people that you don't believe should be allowed to own guns.

What is my point? The vast majority of people do not believe that the right to keep and bear arms is an absolute right, even those that say they do. They simply disagree on who should be excluded from excising that right.

 

[oneounceload]

Who decided on whether a right is "absolute"? EVERY right has been trampled on, so should we turn back the clock two hundred + years?

It is simple, with "rights" comes "responsibility".

 

[jlr1962]

So, it sounds like none of you live around here, work with or know of unstable folks or felons that own guns. Consider yourselves lucky I guess. I will list some examples.
- My own Grandfather got to a point where we got the guns and car keys out of the house.
- A coworker with a felony conviction would carry 24/7, till he got caught anyway.
- A opponent dart team player with a felony dwi shot regularly
- There are people on these boards that say "nobody tells me where and when I can carry".

 

[Tinpig]

"in god we trust" is on our money, and in the constitution and bill of rights

Please cite all the uses of the phrase "in God we trust" that appear in the US Constitution.

Tinpig

 

[orionengnr]

How about mandatory firearms safety training in High School? Then Constitutional Carry.
You can probably guess which way I voted.

Firearms training about the time voters have to take a good Civics class.

There, fixed it for you.

 

[George Dickel]

So, it sounds like none of you live around here, work with or know of unstable folks or felons that own guns. Consider yourselves lucky I guess. I will list some examples.
- My own Grandfather got to a point where we got the guns and car keys out of the house.
- A coworker with a felony conviction would carry 24/7, till he got caught anyway.
- A opponent dart team player with a felony dwi shot regularly
- There are people on these boards that say "nobody tells me where and when I can carry".

Since you knew of these felons you mentioned, did you inform the police they were breaking the law? You were totally remiss in your obligation as a law abiding citizen by not notifying the police. Why didn't you report them???

How would mandatory training (the topic of this discussion) prevent these felons from possessing a firearm? They already violated the law by having one to start with. Gun laws really work don't they!

 

[Ohen Cepel]

No, it's just like Jim Crow laws for voting.

Yes, I would like someone to get training but if you let the gov't control it then next thing you know is it will only be taught by the governor's brother on leap year at a cost of $5k.

 

[steelbird]

Not mandatory, but strongly recommended. Perhaps issuing agencies could provide sources where people could learn to improve their skills when they receive their permits - books, trainers, and Jerry Miculek videos on YouTube......

 

[jlr1962]

Since you knew of these felons you mentioned, did you inform the police they were breaking the law? You were totally remiss in your obligation as a law abiding citizen by not notifying the police. Why didn't you report them???

How would mandatory training (the topic of this discussion) prevent these felons from possessing a firearm? They already violated the law by having one to start with. Gun laws really work don't they!

Well George, I guess I am not the Boy Scout that you are.

 

[ConstitutionCowboy]

Before the felons violated the law, the law violated the Constitution.

Woody

 

[Al Thompson]

Looks like we've squeezed all the juice out of this particular orange.