Siberian Brown Bear hunt video....Local hunting guide with a sporterized Mosin...

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Good shot I guess. I like "move in slow, move in slow" after the bear is shot, then falls about 40 feet...... I hunt but I don't find this amusing really. Kind of sad.
 
Did anybody notice how professional the camera work is? Most of the scenes are shot from a mounted camera. The only hand held camera work is when the hunters are walking and when the bear is climbing the hill.

All of the panning and positioning of the people in the frames makes me wonder who did the filming. It doesn't look like the normal video taped hunts.
 
Yes, the camera work was by a professional crew. It's TV.

That's from 'The Outdoorsman with Buck McNeely'. It's a regular TV show where a fat man who's always out of breath is filmed making shots on trophy animals all over the world. Then he congratulates himself on what a fine shot he is.

On the subject of 'kinda sad'. As a hunter since 1960, yes I'm always kinda sad when I harvest game. They are all magnificent creatures, and we are naturally predators. It is very natural but nevertheless a bit sad when prey falls to the predator. In a certain way (you can laugh if you want) I always honor the game I take. My grandma's father (half Ute Indian) said a prayer to thank the game for giving its life. Yet, this video wasn't quite as genuine as I feel when I hunt. I believe I understand HB.
 
Why's that?
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because hunting can be great, respectfull, and is part of humanity, but seing a bear killed more by its fall then the shot, and than people "giving five's" with no special respect for the life they've taken, isnt THAT amusing.

but that is only MY humble opinion.

I always honor the game I take
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exacltly.. and this is what's missing here.


You might say that this particular bear wasnt honoring it's preys when killing and eating them.. true. But we're not beasts, are we ?


stupid, but for the unused eyes, this is ammo for anti-hunt nuts..
 
By the way...

Look at the video and notice how the guide, Yuri, hold his gun when he prods the bear to make sure he is dead....ready to shoot with one hand...that gives you an idea about the level of confidence and proficiency he has with the rifle...talking about not being afraid of the gun you shoot with....

I wonder what ammo he uses on his Mosin....possibly 203 gr. Soft Point...
 
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Ditto with Ants

I agree with Ants.Although I am not American Indian,I too feel emotional about the animal I have just harvested.Maybe it's my old age,because it seems to get worse lately when I approach the deer.I am struck with emotion & I get a bit choked up.Sometimes I wish the Whitetail deer wasn't so beautiful.Where can I find ugly game to hunt?lol
 
If you don't feel a little bad, maybe you shouldn't do it. I winced at the long fall too.

People hunt for different reasons. Even a trophy animal deserves respect.

I've seen a Discovery show about game wardens in Siberia, many still carry the Moisin Nagant.
 
There is nothing disrespectful about a fall. Happens all the time in high country. I'm missing the points made above. Looked like a good shot from the very start.
 
You can find the worlds most ugly animals in Afghanistan. Too bad you have to give up 3 years of your life to go hunt these creatures and you have to answer yes and no sir to your guide. Or you will be doing double duty cleaning the poopers !!
 
Im all for legal hunting within limits that are good for nature, not for trophy hunting or to increase prey animal populations to make hunters happy.
I saw nothing wrong with the shot, the fall, but the celebrating and no respect for the life taken is a bad thing. Then again you dont expect much when your dealing with someone who makes a fortune from trophy hunting all over the world, and making loads of money selling the video footage. Many of these predator hunts are baited and held from heated blinds by guides, examples bear, wolf, and coyote hunting in Canada.
 
Buk's hard trip in to that spot was cruising the shoreline in a nice boat till they spotted that bear. Then they jumped out a few hundred yards up the coastline and put a half-baked sneak on and ambushed it.
 
I truly appreciate the candidness of everyone here. Personally, I don't see the logic of faulting the hunter for the fall that the animal took. If he hadn't made a good, humane shot, the bear would have run off to slowly bleed elsewhere. As it was, the bear abided by the laws of anatomy and physics, and we have no reason to believe that the hunter took the shot because he thought: "I bet if I shoot 'im there he'll fall of the cliff!". He clearly has a better, more clear shot once the near runs "up that little hill".

There's a difference between a lack of respect and outright DISrespect. I can certainly see some lack of respect here, but the other, I don't think so.
 
The bear was probably dead before he hit the ground. That was one of the cleanest shots I've ever seen. It dropped that bear so fast that I'm almost certain he was already gone before he hit. There's nothing wrong with celebrating a successful hunt, either. I may not be a fan of trophy hunting, but there's nothing wrong with a few celebratory cheers. They took their shot, they got a perfect DRT on a huge, tough animal, and that's something to be excited about.
 
They took their shot, they got a perfect DRT on a huge, tough animal, and that's something to be excited about.
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Agreed. It turned out about as perfectly as possible for them. If I knew that the other possible option was to be blitzkrieged by an enraged brown bear, I'd probably be looking for a high-five too when it went my way.

...and none of us have any reason to believe that that bear wasn't utilized even down to it's most seemingly useless parts. In the two years I've spent in northern Saskatchewan, the one time we had to kill a bear in self-defense we got on the radio, made the invites, had a heckuva potluck, and everybody left with what they could conceivably use.

Tasted like brisket, then I saw a bear at the dump the next day eating a dirty diaper. :uhoh: Better after than before. :)
 
Russian Siberian brown bears are a bit bigger and meaner than American ones. They're closer to polar bears in temperment. They have little or no fear of humans, and in fact include them in their diet. Remember that news article last year about a Russian mine that was shut down by a pack of carnivorous Kamchatka brown bears? Those things will prey on humans, and bear attacks are quite common. Throw everything you think you know about brown bears out the window. These are not your typical American brown bear. These things will hunt you.
 
Hey Mike U !!

Hey. Mike U !!
You did ask a valid question that deserves and answer. When I was younger, there were instances where we killed without eating but still had a purpose. We'd shoot groundhogs in the fields that the horses grazed in because the horses wou9ld step in the groundhog hole and break a leg. The loss of the horse on the farm was far more devastating than the loss of the groundhog. We'd also shoot rats which eat our grain and seed and carried disease.
But, we didn't shoot animals just to make a rug out of them, or stuff them and make trophy's out of them.
Should we hunt bear? Yes, there are times when bears are a safety problem and if they can't be relocated, should be eliminated. Should we go out of our way, trek deep into their habitat and hunt them just for fun? Well, that I don't agree with.
It's a delicate balancing act between right and wrong, food, conservation, habitat infringement (theirs and ours). I certainly don't have the answers, just my convoluted opinion.
Regarding Siberian bears...if they truly hunt humans and are a threat to humans, well...then they should be eliminated, again, if they can't be relocated.
 
Yep, there are lots of opinions out there, and plenty of variations on hunting ethics. Myself, I see no problem with trophy hunting, and enjoy it very much myself. It all goes into conservation, both financially and through herd balancing, and I enjoy being part of that process.

The millions of dollars of tag fees every year that go into trophy hunting benefit the rest of us who are out hunting meat (its not my $40 tag that pays the conservation bills here in Colorado, I know that much!).

Hunting, of all kinds, is what allows us to continue to enjoy our way of life. I'm all for allowing, and encouraging, any way possible to get folks out in the field. If someone wants to chase big brownies around, contribute the appropriate finances to the economy and the conservation efforts involved, good for them.
 
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