marine 97-03
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What's your thoughts on this rifle ....apparently its not a DI setup with a lwrc bcg moe for grip heavy barrel. ??
sig 516 moe thoughts
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klover
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Oh sure, another AK wannabe for uber money.
And I thought I spent a lot when I bought a $1000 Arsenal 106
DI and lots of Aluminum never struck a chord with me. Steel and simplicity rank high with me, but the extraction of straight wall brass might have some problems even with a short piston system.
Change to a tapered wall 5.45 x 39 and go back in history. How many 5.45 x 39 Saigas can I buy for 516 or 106 money? Answer: 3.34 rifles at today's prices:
http://classicarms.us/semi-auto rifles.htm
Truthfully, I would buy one without having ever shot a Saiga simply based on appreciation of all the Sig pistols I have come to dearly love. I suspect I will someday own one if I didn't want that BMW so much. If Sig had these when the
106 came out, I probably would have bought one instead.
And I thought I spent a lot when I bought a $1000 Arsenal 106
DI and lots of Aluminum never struck a chord with me. Steel and simplicity rank high with me, but the extraction of straight wall brass might have some problems even with a short piston system.
Change to a tapered wall 5.45 x 39 and go back in history. How many 5.45 x 39 Saigas can I buy for 516 or 106 money? Answer: 3.34 rifles at today's prices:
http://classicarms.us/semi-auto rifles.htm
Truthfully, I would buy one without having ever shot a Saiga simply based on appreciation of all the Sig pistols I have come to dearly love. I suspect I will someday own one if I didn't want that BMW so much. If Sig had these when the
106 came out, I probably would have bought one instead.
marine 97-03
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wal mart
they have them at the local wal mart for 800$
they have them at the local wal mart for 800$
Ridgerunner665
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My son (also a Marine, 1833) has one, its a fine shooter...I've shot it more than him, he bought it after boot camp and hasn't been around to shoot it much.
Not cheap....but nice!
Not cheap....but nice!
marine 97-03
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They seem nice and I like sig a lot...but there seems to be some hate for the 516....based on the sig 556 short comings
marine 97-03
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Anyone else own one or have experience with sig ar,s
marine 97-03
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Ok I've read that its not DI ....and I've read that it is DI... dose anyone know for sure
marine 97-03
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Sig Sauers both .223 5.56 NATO. A 556008 DMR LE 21 in 1n10 twist bbl. I also have a Sig Sauer 516 Hunter with a 20in bbl. 1n9 twist. It is a flattop that came with no sights on it and the bbl has 3 different diameters on the way to the muzzle, kind of a Heavy Relieved bbl I was reading a Sig Sauer review (ad) about the 516 and it is wrong. The second sentence starts "The Sig 516s are all gas-piston operated.", they are not. I belive the author was refering to the 556 Series which is piston operated The rifles look nothing like each other. The SIG 516 could be mistaken for an AR (forward assist and all) in fact people are swapping bottoms and tops on them. The 556 has bolt that slides back and forth oosely in the bolt guide, no dust cover. The charging handle is kept in the pistol grip and is installed everytime the rifle comes out of the case and taken off when placed in the case My 556008 DMR LE has 1 piston adjustment, not 3. 556 is the nomiclature for the gas piston operated model SIGS. The 516 is DGI Direct Gas Impingement operation.* 5'16' the 16 is Sigs way of letting you know that the rifle operates like a M16. DG There are 2 different types of 556008 DMRs. One has a 20 in bbl the DMR HERO DETAIL the other a 21 in bbl, the DMR LE MODEL. Neither of the rifles I own have any threads on the muzzle as stated in the review/ad. The DMR LE is match grade crowned at the factory.* I have not seen another the 516 with a 20 inch bbl. mine has no rails on it, just a flattop you pick the pointers. I am sure there are 20 in bbl 516s around(all I have seen are the 16.5in bbls they are getting scarce) I bought my 516 at WalMart for 900 dollars, they sell M4 Bushmasters for the same price. SIG 900 BM 900 I have a BM Carbon15 for social purposes and I can say the bolt and carrier tolerences are much tighter in the SIG. The bolt makes a suction sound when clean and hand operated 556008 DMR LE and 516 hunter w/20 in bb 516 hunter I have not seen another 20inch bbl all are 16.5 This reminds me of an M16A2
marine 97-03
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post #9 is from biggamehunt.net saying the sig 516 is di .....***
Ridgerunner665
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Yep...it is piston driven.
The recoil feels different than DI, not harder...just different.
You don't have to worry about keeping the BCG lubed, the lube doesn't burn off there. The bolt stays cool...the gas rings are out front at the piston, the piston gets pretty dang warm (much like the bolt on a DI gun).
I've fired appx. 2,000 rounds through the 516...I have no complaints, there is no sign of any damage from carrier tilt, its accurate, has never jammed with any ammo (factory and reloads), its well put together. It came with a cheap red dot sight thats usable but i wouldn't wanna take it into combat, it also came with a 3 point sling that has a pretty neat way of attaching to the rifle....my son says its better than they way they connect to issued rifles.
In the end...its just another AR15, a tad different...but still the same.
The recoil feels different than DI, not harder...just different.
You don't have to worry about keeping the BCG lubed, the lube doesn't burn off there. The bolt stays cool...the gas rings are out front at the piston, the piston gets pretty dang warm (much like the bolt on a DI gun).
I've fired appx. 2,000 rounds through the 516...I have no complaints, there is no sign of any damage from carrier tilt, its accurate, has never jammed with any ammo (factory and reloads), its well put together. It came with a cheap red dot sight thats usable but i wouldn't wanna take it into combat, it also came with a 3 point sling that has a pretty neat way of attaching to the rifle....my son says its better than they way they connect to issued rifles.
In the end...its just another AR15, a tad different...but still the same.
marine 97-03
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Thanks for clearing it up ridgerunner all the best to you and your son. Simper Fi
Ridgerunner665
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Crappy cell phone pic...
Ridgerunner665
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There are gas rings in the bolt...but they never see any gas.
The bolt is exactly the same as on a DI gun, except the gas key.
The bolt is exactly the same as on a DI gun, except the gas key.
marine 97-03
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The one they have at the local wally world has a heavy barrel moe for grip and a2 stock
Ridgerunner665
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I think his is the Patrol model, but I haven't read up on it much...I just shoot it
marine 97-03
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Ok. Gotcha
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