Locally I can pick up 50 round boxes of Sig Elite Performance .40 S&W 165 gr JHP in 50 Round White Boxes (No V-Crown Markings) E40SW1-50 for $19.99 a box (less if I buy a case). According to Sig Specs it's the 165 gr V-Crown JHP at 1090 fps. Anybody have any info on this stuff? I'm assuming the White Box Stuff (as opposed to the multicolor) was intended for LE Sales although it's not marked as such. Lucky Gunner Test was all I could find and the penetration was on the deeper side although all expanded out of a 3.4" barrel although it looked like they needed a little more velocity to be optimized. I would be using a 4" Barrel.