JR24
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Didn't I recently read all non Legion 220s were discontinued?
It's maddening trying to keep up with all of Sig's new and discontinued models
Sig P220 Legion SAO - 5" Bbl/ 10mm or .45 ACP - Grail Pistol?
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Didn't I recently read all non Legion 220s were discontinued?
It's maddening trying to keep up with all of Sig's new and discontinued models
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tomrkba
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I have one.
I hate it.
The first problem is that the thumb safety is incorrectly placed. It is not possible for me to shoot the gun as if it were a 1911. Shooting the gun with my thumb on the safety results in stress on the joint from recoil. Furthermore, the safety's "ledge" is quite small and is easy to miss. Mine started out tight but has loosened up during the deactivation movement with no drop in weight. It is sort of "squishy" now. I dislike having to change techniques just to accommodate one gun. The thumb safety on the P226 and P229 Legion SAO is superior.
The second problem with the gun is that the safety does not lock the slide into position. Initially, I liked this feature as a to load and unload the gun with the safety engaged. However, this becomes a problem when inserting the gun into a holster. The slide will move back slightly, taking the gun out of battery. The good news is that placing your thumb on the back of the slide while holstering prevents this. Even then, it's not much of an issue since, if the holster is tight enough to take it out of battery, the friction of the draw will bring it back. But, I prefer to proactively avoid problems while carrying a defensive firearm.
I hate it.
The first problem is that the thumb safety is incorrectly placed. It is not possible for me to shoot the gun as if it were a 1911. Shooting the gun with my thumb on the safety results in stress on the joint from recoil. Furthermore, the safety's "ledge" is quite small and is easy to miss. Mine started out tight but has loosened up during the deactivation movement with no drop in weight. It is sort of "squishy" now. I dislike having to change techniques just to accommodate one gun. The thumb safety on the P226 and P229 Legion SAO is superior.
The second problem with the gun is that the safety does not lock the slide into position. Initially, I liked this feature as a to load and unload the gun with the safety engaged. However, this becomes a problem when inserting the gun into a holster. The slide will move back slightly, taking the gun out of battery. The good news is that placing your thumb on the back of the slide while holstering prevents this. Even then, it's not much of an issue since, if the holster is tight enough to take it out of battery, the friction of the draw will bring it back. But, I prefer to proactively avoid problems while carrying a defensive firearm.
Obturation
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Not a grail gun but I wouldn't turn one down if the price were right. 10mm please, as JMB would have preferred (if he were born 100 years later).
-hows that for blasphemy??
It won't end.
-hows that for blasphemy??
First jeep?
It won't end.
tomrkba
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Yup. They dumped the P320 45 Compacts too. I really like my P320 45 Compact with manual safety. It's a great gun, but I prefer to carry only supported guns or those that have an adequate supply of parts available. I'm sure I'll be able to get springs for a few years, but I doubt these guns will be viable past a decade from now.
Corpral_Agarn
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LOL tell me about it!First jeep?
It won't end.
I got the Jeep some 15 years ago (my first car) and just recently managed to get her back on the road (after 3 year hiatus)
This will be the third motor for this rig and this time I opted for a stroker... I do not recommend it if you live in CA
JR24
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I did not realize the safety on the 220 was different than the 226 or 229.
Zaydok Allen
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The 10mm P220s are fantastic guns. I bought a SA/DA version several years ago, and a SAO Elite about a year and a half after that. If the Legion version had existed at the time, I might have gone that way.
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a2x4bbl
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Don’t have a Sig , but 10mm every time . I have 2 45acp’s and 2 10mm’s .
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Does Sig have a caliber conversion kit so you can shot .45 & 10 in the same frame? If so, I’d go with the stronger 10mm and have the .45 option for Super or SMC tinkering.
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Part of the fun in shooting, for me, is managing the recoil while maintaining accuracy. I’m also excessively curious & wildcats call me...
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Part of the fun in shooting, for me, is managing the recoil while maintaining accuracy. I’m also excessively curious & wildcats call me...
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I don't believe so.
JTQ
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Note all of the 10mm P220's have steel frames. Most, though certainly not all, of the .45 Auto P220's have aluminum frames.
I suspect SIG is not interested in you shooting 10mm out of their aluminum framed guns.
If they made this in a double stack I'd be interested. Of course I guess then it wouldn't be a P220. How about a "P221"?
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Garandimal
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Those are the same characteristics of the P938 - also discontinued save the Legion and Nitron offerings.
I run the safety the same as my SA 1911-A1 Milspec, just an on/off switch, w/o the high ride rest (which activates the grip safety) and all the fiddle screw for every presentation.
Just disengage it after the draw... then treat it like a Glock... and then re-engage it before holstering.
Works for me.
Like the unlocked slide feature as well, and usually just back the slide up w/ my thumb when holstering.
GR
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I would do that, but I carry 1911's and various P320's with properly placed thumb safeties. I don't want to change techniques to accommodate one gun.
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