pabst_20
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Which is the better one to purchase, and why?
Sig P228 Vs. P229(9mm)
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I went with the 229R for several reasons. First the gun was made for the .40 caliber bullet. So 9mm +P or even +P+ probably won't hurt the gun. It's made from one block of stainless steel instead of folded over and pinned steel like the 228. Older SIG's that were carbon steel were said to have rust problems. Stainless steel slide with or without Nitron finish should take care of that. Somewhere I read the 228 needed it's rollpins replace every 5000 rounds. You can get the E2 grip in the 229 which makes the gun usable for alot of people the old SIG's even with the short trigger wouldn't. Same size gun. But tougher construction and varying grip designs. 229 hands down.
rellascout
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Sig P228 all the way. They are better balanced. The P229 is top heavy. You could shoot +p ammo out of a P228 and it will still last longer than you and I will if you replace the springs as needed.
Current P229s with their poorly finished stainless steel slides too often gauge the Alum frames...which really can never be repaired or corrected. The nitron finish is part of the problem not the solution. P229s are okay but honestly they are economy of scale recreations of the original P228. They would have continued to make the P228 but they could make more money by discontinuing it and forcing people into the modular bar stock P299. Its all about economy of scale not about what produces the best product. Cohen Sig is all about profit. Not that I have a problem with making profit. People should simply know the real story and go in eyes wide open.
Sorry but Cohen Sigs do not compare with the older German guns. Lots of bling lots of marketing hype cheaper lesser product..... YMMV
Current P229s with their poorly finished stainless steel slides too often gauge the Alum frames...which really can never be repaired or corrected. The nitron finish is part of the problem not the solution. P229s are okay but honestly they are economy of scale recreations of the original P228. They would have continued to make the P228 but they could make more money by discontinuing it and forcing people into the modular bar stock P299. Its all about economy of scale not about what produces the best product. Cohen Sig is all about profit. Not that I have a problem with making profit. People should simply know the real story and go in eyes wide open.
Sorry but Cohen Sigs do not compare with the older German guns. Lots of bling lots of marketing hype cheaper lesser product..... YMMV
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I also have the good luck of having both a p228 and p229 (older, without rail). I actually prefer the p229s balance over the p228, but I can see why many prefer the p228s balance.
That being said, the p229r (with rail) is a non-starter for me. The balance feels way off compared with the old p229 series (maybe its just my impression). I think the only currently produced p229 without rail is the P229 SAS GEN 2, which has the SRT trigger.
That being said, the p229r (with rail) is a non-starter for me. The balance feels way off compared with the old p229 series (maybe its just my impression). I think the only currently produced p229 without rail is the P229 SAS GEN 2, which has the SRT trigger.
rellascout said:
It certainly does! I've owned SIGs since '92 and have eight at present. Three of those are all German and one is all German but US assembled. I like 'em all. I've been nothing short of delighted with the P220 Combat and Carry and the P239 SAS Gen 2 that I bought this year ... great pistols and so far they've been 100% reliable and accurate with reloads and factory ammunition. I'm shooting the Combat in the Limited 10 class (IPSC) and we typically shoot 125 to 150 rounds per match. I keep logs on all of my pistols and will be the first one to report back if there's an issue. But so far, I honestly couldn't be happier. I just installed Meprolight night sights on the Carry, centered them front and back using the SIG sight tool, went to the range yesterday and I'm dialed in at 65 yards on a 12" steel plate. HA!
Sorry pabst_20, I don't own a P228 or P229 but I do have a pair of all German P225s. I like single stack pistols hence the 1911s, P220s, P225s and P239. I didn't vote for obvious reasons.
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I was not impressed with the W. German P228. It has quite a bit of muzzle flip for a 9mm, and POI varies greatly with changes in bullet weight/speed.
It shot my 147 grain match handloads very well at 25 yards, but not Federal AE 115 ball or WWB.
The P229 is a softer shooter and a nice gun.
The new versus old Sig quality rhetoric is way over blown, like most things on the internet.
It shot my 147 grain match handloads very well at 25 yards, but not Federal AE 115 ball or WWB.
The P229 is a softer shooter and a nice gun.
The new versus old Sig quality rhetoric is way over blown, like most things on the internet.
icebones
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I hand always heard the P228 was made with a stamped steel slide, as opposed to a P229 which have a machined (stronger) slide. Anyone else know more on this?
Yes, the old P series guns were all made with stamped sheet metal slides with pinned in breach blocks, but they are not weak.
New ones are milled from solid SS, just a different way to do things.
The milled slides are heavier and do change the balance while you are fondling them, but when shooting them, I prefer the milled slides weight to dampen felt recoil.
Ala Dan
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I will take a West German SIG-SAUER 9mm P228 over the SIGARMS P229
every day of the week, and twice on Sunday~!
every day of the week, and twice on Sunday~!
PR-NJ
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I have a German-made P228, purchased in 1994, that I had appraised for insurance purposes a couple weeks ago. It probably has less than 300 rounds fired through it life to date. The dude at the gun shop was drooling...
Zundfolge
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If we're talking 9mm I'd go P228 if nothing else because the P228 is a classic ... now in .40 I don't know if the P228 is even available but even so I'd go with the P229.
PR-NJ said:
I've been watching quite a few P226s and P228s over the last year on GunBroker that are NIB, unfired without a scratch and they aren't even reaching $600. Some have remained unsold on GB for months. I bought a NIB unfired P225 earlier this year (1991) for considerably less than the current "Made in Germany" P225s that are on TopGunSupply.com. These all German SIGs aren't proving to be much of an investment at all.
PR-NJ
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Guns, in general, aren't much of an investment.
pabst_20
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picked up a Sig P228 today with night sights love it, it fits my hands very well and is very well balanced.
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