Sig Sauer 1911 Opinion

[el Godfather]

Dear THR

I would like to ask for your opinion on Sig 1911 pistols. I have recently picked up two of then. One C3 and the other is Nitro rail carry.

I want to know how far has Sig come in producing a quality 1911 pistols when compared to some high end brands like Wilson, Ed Brown, Nighthawk, etc? Off course not, to forget the time tested Colts.

Thank you,

 

[plateshooter]

I have a Sig C3 and l like it a lot. Compared to the other 1911s that I have owned, it is far above in quality and accuracy. Hope you are enjoying yours.

 

[JTQ]

I don't think Sig is in the same league as Baer, Brown, NighHawk, or Wilson, but they are probably in the same class as Colt's.

They had some problems early in their production, but from my reading lately, they are producing a good pistol. They do have a Colt style Series 80 firing pin safety and an external extractor that bugs the traditionalist, though.

 

[flatlander937]

I came -very- close to buying a Sig 1911 as my first pistol, but ultimately ended up with a Colt... I just like it better, and it's the only company that's been doing it for 100 years. I can always buy a Sig at a later time(and I very well just might).

FWIW the Sig XO that I rented at the local range ran perfectly, and was very accurate. I liked it a lot. One reason I didn't choose one was because of the unusual slide geometry... from what I read online(dangerous, I know) it doesn't fit as well into holsters as other 1911s. Also I do not care for the slide serrations... the Colt 1991 had everything I knew I wanted.


I voted for the very good option... it's not going to be like a Baer or Ed Brown... neither is a stock Colt though, and that's fine with me.



If you like them, and don't regret buying them, then it sounds like you landed a good deal

 

[9mmepiphany]

After addressing the initial function problems, I think the SIG 1911s are able to stand with other mid-priced 1911s. The greatest selling point is their different slide profile (for folks who want a different look) and it is also their greatest failing (for folks who don't want to get different holsters just for their SIGs).

The SIGs aren't in the same workmanship class as the high end production 1911s you have named, but I would put them somewhere above a Kimber and below a S&W E-series or entry level Dan Wesson

 

[el Godfather]

Thank you.
I also did notice immediately after purchasing Sig that it didnt fit at all in the previous 1911 holsters I had. I think thicker profile with rail is especially a problem.

I admit I am one of those who are partial to the Sig profile in terms of looks.

 

[Big Nugget]

I've never been lucky enough to handle a hig end 1911 so I didn't vote as I have no reference, but I'm leaning towards your top two. In my opinion, I prefer my Sig more than any SA, Kimber or Colt that I've shot. Not that I would turn my nose up at any of them!

The holster problem is the only thing that I can grumble about, but thats it. There are a number of Holster makers that can make one, in various price ranges and materials, if you feel the need to have one. If thats a deal breaker for some people Sig does offer their Traditional line of 1911s which has the normal slide profile. Though they still use an external extractor, which still leaves something for people to bitch about...

My needs are basic. Does it feel good in hand, functions properly and can I be as accurate as I can be with it consistently. For me, my Sig excels my expectations.

 

[LiveLife]

After failing to buy a Dan Wesson PM7 (1 of like 100/200 made for California each year), I range tested various 1911s and settled on Sig 1911 Nitron railed TacPac that comes with laser/holster.

I have a friend who has several Kimbers and the Sig TacPac will shoot comparable to his more accurate Kimbers. Keep in mind that regardless of the finish (black Nitron or stainless), all 5" models are built from stainless frames/slides. Compact models have aluminum frames.

I use the Sig TacPac primarily as a load development/accuracy testing platform as it has tight match barrel/bushing and chamber with very quick start of rifling (almost no leade) that's worked well for lead SWC loads. After 5000+ factory jacketed and plated/lead reloads, it is shooting very accurate and silky smooth. I consider sub $800 5" Sig 1911s undervalued and compare readily to $1200+ range 1911 models.

 

[GT27]

Colt is the Holy Grail in the 1911 platform,everything else is just a copy!

 

[Olympus]

After addressing the issues with the early GSR models, Sig has really turned up the heat on their quality, features, and variety of their lineup. I consider the new Sig 1911s as the best bang for your buck right now. They are easily the most underrated 1911 on the market. The slide profile was enough to cause Sig to acknowledge the value of the traditional design, so Sig now offers both slide designs. My FIL has a Nitron Carry and I've spend a lot of time with it. Very high quality gun with very few MIM parts. I plan on adding one to my collection in the future.

 

[Inebriated]

Colt is the Holy Grail in the 1911 platform,everything else is just a copy!

Way to inspire competition and innovation!

 

[Olympus]

Way to inspire competition and innovation!

It's best not to feed the trolls. Just ignore them and they go away.

 

[el Godfather]

Colt no doubt makes great 1911s, but to dismiss the rest as simply a copy would be unfair to lots of work and effort that goes in to some those custom handguns. I for sure like, but I also believe that Colt just isn't enough to satisfy its civilian customer base anymore.

 

[boricua9mm]

From the perspective of individual parts quality, build quality and features, I find the SIGs to be the best 1911 type pistols for under $1,000. They are much better than the completely MIM-filled pistols from other big name manufacturers in the same price range.

Now, someone will soon come along to tell us that an external extractor and a different slide profile means it "ain't a 1911."

 

[9mmepiphany]

I find the SIGs to be the best 1911 type pistols for under $1,000. They are much better than the completely MIM-filled pistols from other big name manufacturers in the same price range.

Maybe I'm reading this wrong, but it sure sounds like you're trying to imply that the SIG 1911s aren't using MIM parts.

While that was true when they first introduced the GSR (the ones with the function problems), it hasn't been true in a long time...certainly not since they've become more reliable. Also there are no 1911s under $1k, I'd even venture to raise that figure to $3k, that don't use cast parts...but if that use doesn't affect function, it really shouldn't be an issue

 

[boricua9mm]

Maybe I'm reading this wrong, but it sure sounds like you're trying to imply that the SIG 1911s aren't using MIM parts.

While that was true when they first introduced the GSR (the ones with the function problems), it hasn't been true in a long time...certainly not since they've become more reliable. Also there are no 1911s under $1k, I'd even venture to raise that figure to $3k, that don't use cast parts...but if that use doesn't affect function, it really shouldn't be an issue

Wrong read confirmed. According to a 1911forum Moderator who works at SIG assembling the 1911s, SIG is currently using 5 MIM parts; slide stop, thumb safety, grip safety, disconnector and firing pin stop. For production level guns around the $1k mark, only Colt can boast having less MIM with only 3 parts. On that note, the 2010 model SIG I received only had two!

I'm always amazed that people are willing to spend over $1k on MIM-filled offerings from S&W, Kimber and Springfield at a time when SIG is finally on top of their 1911 game with more hand-fitting, features and higher quality parts. Paying more for a pistol that uses manufacturing processes designed to save money never made much sense to me, but that might be straying off the topic farm a good bit.

 

[Olympus]

Is Colt still using plastic MSHs?

 

[Storm]

I had an early GSR, one from after the initial problems were ironed out. It was a good 1911 but I realized that I only had it only because it was a SIG. I put it up against a SW1911 that I acquired at the same time and it wasn't quite the equal of the Smith. A nice gun to be sure, but not as refined in some respects.

That said, if I saw another GSR at a very good price I might be tempted.

 

[Olympus]

I had an early GSR, one from after the initial problems were ironed out. It was a good 1911 but I realized that I only had it only because it was a SIG. I put it up against a SW1911 that I acquired at the same time and it wasn't quite the equal of the Smith. A nice gun to be sure, but not as refined in some respects.

That said, if I saw another GSR at a very good price I might be tempted.

I guess I noticed the opposite. My FIL also aquired a S&W 1911 target (the one that looks like the new Ruger, stainless with black small parts). I thought the Nitron Carry has closer tolerances and a better fit and finish the S&W did. I preferred the adjustable rear sight on the S&W, but other than that, it didnt impress me. I thought the Sig was made a little better.

Then he got a new E-Series and it blew both of them away!

 

[gpjoe]

I've got a 5" reverse two-tone, with the traditional slide and it compares favorably to my Colts and Kimber. My opinion is that it is nicer, at least in fit, than the S&W E-Series gun. I compared the two and the Smith had a sloppy thumb safety, kind of mushy with no audible or tactile "click". I'm a S&W fan and really wanted to like the E-Series, but was disappointed - at least with the sample I handled.

I chose the Sig and couldn't be happier. Nice looker too - naked stainless frame with a black nitron stainless slide.

 

[Olympus]

I've got a 5" reverse two-tone, with the traditional slide and it compares favorably to my Colts and Kimber. My opinion is that it is nicer, at least in fit, than the S&W E-Series gun. I compared the two and the Smith had a sloppy thumb safety, kind of mushy with no audible or tactile "click". I'm a S&W fan and really wanted to like the E-Series, but was disappointed - at least with the sample I handled.

I chose the Sig and couldn't be happier. Nice looker too - naked stainless frame with a black nitron stainless slide.

See, I always considered that variation the regular two-tone. Black on top of silver. I have always called the silver on top of black the "reverse two-tone". I guess I've been getting it backwards all this time.

 

[9mmepiphany]

See, I always considered that variation the regular two-tone. Black on top of silver. I have always called the silver on top of black the "reverse two-tone". I guess I've been getting it backwards all this time.

That was the original two-tone...black slide above a alloy frame that had been stripped.

USPSA shooters started going with the white slide over a black steel frame for quicker site pickup.

When hard anodized alloy and polymer frame became more common, the white over dark became the "standard" two-tone

 

[thefamcnaj]

The c3 is a great gun. I have one and its ran flawless. It's also a very accurate gun. How ever at its price point I think it should have come with night sights.
I would put it above kimber and s&w 1911's, but below baer, Wilson, nighthawk, and high end SA's. I think the sigs stack up nicely against the Colts.

 

[gpjoe]

See, I always considered that variation the regular two-tone. Black on top of silver. I have always called the silver on top of black the "reverse two-tone". I guess I've been getting it backwards all this time.

I call it a reverse two-tone because that's the decription that Sig uses for the configuration (black slide - white metal frame). I'm not sure of any "history" regarding this color combo. It does make a nice looking pistol, though, IMO.

 

[Dr_B]

The c3 is a great gun. I have one and its ran flawless. It's also a very accurate gun. How ever at its price point I think it should have come with night sights.

Yes, the C3 sold in 2011 for almost the price of a new P226 with night sights. Now Sig has increased all their prices by about $100. The MSRP for the Sig C3 is now about $1000.