SIGS...why so much?

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OK,I know German enginering and all that...but $800 seems a bit high...are they THAT good?I can get like 2 Glocks for that kind of money.....not trying to start anything with you sig-lovers mind you...I just kind of fell in lust with a sig 9mm over the weekend and then saw the price:what:
If I had all kinds of money,Id' probably get one though......;)
 
Yes, they are that good. However, do yourself a favor, and get a CPO. Same gun, same quality, half the money. IIRC, I paid 390 OTD for my P220 with night sights.
 
what patrol said. their certified pre owned program is great. I'm curious as to what it did to their new pistol sales, but it sure is nice to be able to buy SIGss for $400
 
waterhouse said:
what patrol said. their certified pre owned program is great. I'm curious as to what it did to their new pistol sales, but it sure is nice to be able to buy SIGss for $400
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It's the same used pistol only this time they get a cut of the profit, certified pre-owned is no big deal especially since you can learn how to inspect one yourself. You go to the dealer, ask real nicely, bring along a snap cap and a small screwdriver to remove the grips. CPO is nice when it comes to cars.

any they're expensive because germany and switzerland have a high cost of living, relative values of currency etc. same deal when it comes to korean cars
 
I just bought a LNIB (and I really mean "like new") P220R with Night Sights and the much sought after Ilaflon finish from Bachman Pawn and Gun for $479! Not the prettiest gun in the world, but brutally reliable and very accurate. Look around and you can find good examples for 1/2 of $800!
 
Didn't we just have a thread like this, only about HKs?

In my neck of the woods, you can find new SIGs for about $739 ... however, one can sometimes find excellent used SIGs (with low round counts) for around $450 ... I think if you pay attention to the gun ads or frequent gun shows, you might pay a little bit more for a used SIG there, but it might be newer, have less finish wear and several hundred fewer rounds through it than one of the CPOs (which are still a great deal), however you won't have the factory refurbishing ...

Personally, I think SIGs are one of the few production pistols that (compared to some other semiautos, i.e., HKs, Kimbers and most especially, Kahrs) are worth the price tag. I've never had a bad SIG, and one can count on 'em being 100% reliable and accurate out of the box ...
 
Must of went way up
I have 4 new sigs and never paid $800 for any of them
close on a P220ST it was like 729
 
less expensive serbian-made with some differences
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Well theres the catch isn't it, those "some differences".

I don't want to get into a row about this gun versus that, but there is a reason that the elite forces of the richest nations in the world are often armed with SIGs. SEALS, SAS, certain Israeli forces.
 
you can get a sig pro for cheaper.

I had a sig, it was totally reliable, ho-hum in the accuracy department (as in so-so/combat accurate), but for whatever reason just not easy to shoot well for me--you know how some guns just shoot well naturally, while others you really need to work at to get decent groups. I guess if it works for you, then yeah, its worth the money. But I'd suggest seeing if you can shoot one before buying. You may find you love them, or maybe not. Better to do that BEFORE you shell out $800! :)
 
ghost squire said:
Well theres the catch isn't it, those "some differences".

I don't want to get into a row about this gun versus that, but there is a reason that the elite forces of the richest nations in the world are often armed with SIGs. SEALS, SAS, certain Israeli forces.
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oh please, go write ad copy! :barf:

biggest thing holding Zastava Arms back is politics, that and NATO bombed their factory.
 
scubie02 said:
you can get a sig pro for cheaper.

I had a sig, it was totally reliable, ho-hum in the accuracy department (as in so-so/combat accurate),
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Scubie02, can you be more precise in what you mean by ho-hum in the accuracy department? I have owned 2 Sig P220s and have never had a problem with their accuracy.

Thanks.. :)
 
I bought a Sig 239 in 40 S&W and liked it so much bought a second one in 9mm for my wife. They are both great guns the 40 of course takes a little more practice because of the recoil but I love em both. Worth spending the money now than getting something you dont like and having to take a loss when you dump it to get something else. $800 does sound high though check out gunbroker.com

Good Luck and I think you should by an even dozen heaven knows we need more guns in the big apple.
 
They are expensive because people will pay it. Also they are quite good generally in the accuracy and reliability department not that there is not less expensive pistols that are too.
 
You should be able to find the all-stainless production Sigs (P220 ST, P226 ST, P229 ST) for less than $800 and less for the rest of the line, except the competition pistols.

Sigs are simply good. Within a week after first shooting a Sig, I dumped a Beretta 92FS Inox for a Sig P228. Later, I bought a P226 ST. Both Sigs have been 100% reliable and are very accurate.
 
As with anything man made, a lemon makes it to market. The P220 I had left a really bad taste in my mouth :barf: and since then, I haven't shot a Sig I liked...but they do have some faithful followers!
 
Sigs make up the majority of my carry guns. They're accurate, 100% reliable, and I think they're pretty, especially with a nice set of wood grips.

As far as price...well, it's a German gun, and like German cars, you're paying a bit more for a bit more finesse in the engineering department (find a semi-auto with a better DA trigger...). Things like reliability and easy maintenance aren't immediately noticable, but they count over the long run.

As far as price, definitely shop around used. Most Sig owners are the type who take care of their guns, so the only difference between new and used will likely be cosmetic. I haven't bought any CPOs, but I've heard really good things about them.

Be sure to check out Sigforum.
 
As in most everything we purchase, perception of value is a key ingredient. Sigs are very good pistols. They have won major contracts and endorsements from numerous agencies and individuals and because of that they can ask for and get a little more for their guns. I have a 229 in 40S&W and I can readily see and feel the quality and engineering that went into it. Because of that I understand that it is in the upper level of pistols and deserves to be positioned with other high quality guns. Due to its reputation and Sigs excellent marketing there is a premium price bump that they can command for their guns.

A good example of this is with cars; years ago there was a comparison done between the Buick Electra and Cadillac DeVille as to the real differences in quality between the two. Although the Cadillac did have a few upgrades over the Buick the real difference in manufacturing costs was not that substantial to warrant the difference in price. Cadillac was able to get this premium for their cars due to their prestige and perception of value the consumer viewed them with.
 
Sigs cost more because they cost more to produce. Sit a Sig alongside a Glock. I think it is obvious that there are a lot more machining operations required to produce the Sig. Glock frames are plastic. Sig frames are machined from a solid block of aluminum. Which do you think is the costlier process?
 
I own several SIGs. Some were bought new. A couple of them were police trade-ins. Buying a used SIG is like buying a used Rolls-Royce. It's still a Rolls-Royce. And, like a Rolls-Royce, if you keep it long enough, your grandchildren can sell it for more than what you paid for it.

And, today, many SIGs are manufacturer, or at least assembled, here in the USA.

I've bought and sold a few other guns, but I can't think of any reason why I would ever sell a SIG. I'd rather give it to one of my kids.

Bob
 
I can't justify the cost of a Sig for me; I am not a LEO, just a gun nut and collector, so I would rather buy 2 Rugers than one Sig. Plus I am a lefty and I really like the TZ99 I have (was the CZ99 and now the Charles Daly ZDA) because of the ambidexrous controls. This is not to say that I would never buy a Sig; I have looked at many and almost bought a 40S&W 357Sig combo, but again my fingers would not turn loose of the cash. poppy
 
Sit a Sig alongside a Glock. I think it is obvious that there are a lot more machining operations required to produce the Sig. Glock frames are plastic. Sig frames are machined from a solid block of aluminum.
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That comparison doesn't work as well with a CZ...well-engineered, well-finished, affordable, very accurate, broad product line.
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