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1BLINDREF
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As 9mmepiphany said, It is VERY important to keep your rails greased - especially on the ST models. Change your springs every 5K rounds and your Sig should last you a long time.
I got a special deal on mine
Do you have any pictures of those that you could post as a reference?
Sig still makes the P232 which basically a P230 with some internal upgrades. I'm not sure what year they stopped the P230 and came out with the P232.
I got a special deal on mine
sorry but i don't have any pictures
my frame is in the Grayguns shop as the prototype for the "fix" they are working on.
Dobe - i would think you should be able to got 60-70k+ rounds through an alloy framed P-series before developing enough looseness to warrant concern
my frame is in the Grayguns shop as the prototype for the "fix" they are working on.
Dobe - i would think you should be able to got 60-70k+ rounds through an alloy framed P-series before developing enough looseness to warrant concern
Another question, and I'm asking these questions because I am seriously contemplating a Sig.
For those of you who like DAK, why did you chose DAK. You are giving up a single action pull, or at least a single action pull eventually.
I am assuming it may in part be for legal reasons, which is the reason I am contemplating it.
For those of you who like DAK, why did you chose DAK. You are giving up a single action pull, or at least a single action pull eventually.
I am assuming it may in part be for legal reasons, which is the reason I am contemplating it.
i'm committed to the DA/SA trigger...because i believe it allows faster target transitions.
i believe the DAK is a easier trigger to learn to shoot accurately than the SA...but if you're willing to put in the effort the SA will ultimately be faster
i believe the DAK is a easier trigger to learn to shoot accurately than the SA...but if you're willing to put in the effort the SA will ultimately be faster
Quoted from Dobe: "For those of you who like DAK, why did you chose DAK. You are giving up a single action pull, or at least a single action pull eventually."
OK, so I cannot shoot SA with a DAK weapon. I do not consider that a problem. While it might be convenient to be able to switch to SA in some isolated circumstances, I prefer the consistent pulls of DAK, and I am not less accurate when shooting DA, when shooting realistically, offhand, or from an imperfect improvised rest. With a TDA, which of my shots is most likely to be outside the rest of the group? The second one, which is the first SA shot. Training minimizes this, but the tendency is still there.
I long ago learned to shoot SA-only, with 1911 pistols, DA, with various sixguns, and TDA, with a P220 first, about 1990. In 2002, I learned the Glock trigger. I shot best, overall, with DA sixguns. In 2004, I picked up my first DAK P229, and it was like coming home. Unable to carry a DA sixgun as a duty handgun since 1997, in 2004, I had my favorite trigger stroke again, combined with twice as many rounds available than a sixgun. What's not to like?
Yes, when I can stretch out, and get onto a really good, solid rest, I can do good work with SA fire, if I take my time. That is unlikely to happen in police work or private citizen defense.
Some say SA is faster for follow-up shots. Perhaps, but with alloy-framed pistols chambered for .40 S&W, I find that by the time my pistol has recovered from recoil, the trigger has reset to the full forward DAK position. Others' results may vary.
I am not trying to convert anyone to DAK, and totally respect someone who prefers TDA. I recently obtained not just one, but two special-run P229s with stainless-steel frames, and TDA actions. Life is good.
OK, so I cannot shoot SA with a DAK weapon. I do not consider that a problem. While it might be convenient to be able to switch to SA in some isolated circumstances, I prefer the consistent pulls of DAK, and I am not less accurate when shooting DA, when shooting realistically, offhand, or from an imperfect improvised rest. With a TDA, which of my shots is most likely to be outside the rest of the group? The second one, which is the first SA shot. Training minimizes this, but the tendency is still there.
I long ago learned to shoot SA-only, with 1911 pistols, DA, with various sixguns, and TDA, with a P220 first, about 1990. In 2002, I learned the Glock trigger. I shot best, overall, with DA sixguns. In 2004, I picked up my first DAK P229, and it was like coming home. Unable to carry a DA sixgun as a duty handgun since 1997, in 2004, I had my favorite trigger stroke again, combined with twice as many rounds available than a sixgun. What's not to like?
Yes, when I can stretch out, and get onto a really good, solid rest, I can do good work with SA fire, if I take my time. That is unlikely to happen in police work or private citizen defense.
Some say SA is faster for follow-up shots. Perhaps, but with alloy-framed pistols chambered for .40 S&W, I find that by the time my pistol has recovered from recoil, the trigger has reset to the full forward DAK position. Others' results may vary.
I am not trying to convert anyone to DAK, and totally respect someone who prefers TDA. I recently obtained not just one, but two special-run P229s with stainless-steel frames, and TDA actions. Life is good.
RancidSumo
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Anyone have one of those platinum models?
dwLost
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A SIG club and I just found out about it at page 68, count me in. Had a 92FS sold it for P226, 10 years ago, this spring bought a P229SCT and I can’t get enough of it. SOoooo the only thing to do is go out and get a P239CCP this week. I tell ya, I got this bad; I’m already looking at a P220. Not one of these puppy’s have ever skipped a beat, I love FMG’s (Full Metal Guns)!
jerryrigger
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just wanted to ask a question here-i would like to know what the sig guys thought about my plight...i am looking for a carry piece, and am considering a 229 357 sig, with the added bonus of a 9mm barrel. since i live in MA, and 10 rds is the max capacity for any pistol i get, i am looking for pros and cons between this gun and the glock 30. one pro i have for the 30 is that it is the same caliber as my smith&wesson 1911, but lets disregard that one for the meantime. ive shot both the 229 and g30, and both very well. has anybody ever been in the same situation or a situation close to mine? i would love to have someone talk me out of the glock, as i am really into sigs-i love the look of a sig and love real metal guns, but for some reason i keep coming back to the glock as a viable alternative. i know answers would undoubtedly differ were i posting in a glock group, but i want to hear from sig people-am i going to have trouble concealing the 229 as opposed to the 30 because of the grip etc.? ive done alot of homework, including shooting both, but when the results are so close and i am getting ready to spend such an amount of money, every chance i have to find an opinion is very helpful. thanks alot guys!
dwLost
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Think Chevrolet vs. Mercedes; around here the ground troops are issued the Glock, the SWAT gets the Sig. (both in .40) An aside - only the 40 and 357 are interchangeable the 9 is by it’s self. Just a thought!
It had nothing to do with legal reason. It was purely tactical.
I can get the first shot more accurately and faster than any SIG, Glock, HK I've shot with DAK P226.
I can't fire multiple shots as fast as DA/SA, but "split time" does not mean anyting unless I hit the first shot.
That's the only reason.
Now, I'm eager to get my hands on a P250 for the exact same reason.
Update on the P220 Combat I posted about in September: Santa works for the ATF! Got a call yesterday that my Gemtech suppressor paperwork came though, and so my P220 is now complete:
And I now have no questions about reliability. I put 250 rounds through it last night (with ammo from 4 different manufacturers) and had not one single malfunction. In fact, I've never had a malfunction with that pistol. We're at 5,000+ rounds and counting, and the thing works like a champ.
The can makes it very pleasant to shoot. It quiets things down a lot, but you still need hearing protection indoors. And I have to remember to take gloves to the range. It can get kinda hot.
And I now have no questions about reliability. I put 250 rounds through it last night (with ammo from 4 different manufacturers) and had not one single malfunction. In fact, I've never had a malfunction with that pistol. We're at 5,000+ rounds and counting, and the thing works like a champ.
The can makes it very pleasant to shoot. It quiets things down a lot, but you still need hearing protection indoors. And I have to remember to take gloves to the range. It can get kinda hot.
1SOW
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Sig 239 Problem need advice/suggestions
I have a standard model DA/SA 9mm 239 that has suddenly become inaccurate -- primarily east-west. I've bragged about this guns accuracy on this forum in the past. I shot it in USPSA for a while and had zero problems.
I haven't shot the gun for a few months, took it to the range and could not get a 7yd group less than 3-4" (right and left), up and down was still fairly tight. No two shots ever hit close right and left.
Yes, I made sure my grip and trigger pull were correct. Happened in DA and SA. Shot two other guns the same day and had no problem getting 2" groups (or better)with one flyer. My son tried the gun and had the same loose groups left and right.
Info: 4-5K rounds through it
Shooting sub-sonic 124 gr FMJ before and after problem appeared
No change in ammo, distance (7-10yds), or shooter (except older).
At about 1500 rds the slide was really loose--will rattle when shaken
Never a squib or any sign the barrel is in trouble--it won't move around
when in the lugs
Std "dot the I" sights aren't loose
I keep it clean and properly lubed
I just didn't know where to go from here. Nothing obvious seems wrong, it just scatters right and left.
I'd sure appreciate any ideas you shooters might have.
I have a standard model DA/SA 9mm 239 that has suddenly become inaccurate -- primarily east-west. I've bragged about this guns accuracy on this forum in the past. I shot it in USPSA for a while and had zero problems.
I haven't shot the gun for a few months, took it to the range and could not get a 7yd group less than 3-4" (right and left), up and down was still fairly tight. No two shots ever hit close right and left.
Yes, I made sure my grip and trigger pull were correct. Happened in DA and SA. Shot two other guns the same day and had no problem getting 2" groups (or better)with one flyer. My son tried the gun and had the same loose groups left and right.
Info: 4-5K rounds through it
Shooting sub-sonic 124 gr FMJ before and after problem appeared
No change in ammo, distance (7-10yds), or shooter (except older).
At about 1500 rds the slide was really loose--will rattle when shaken
Never a squib or any sign the barrel is in trouble--it won't move around
when in the lugs
Std "dot the I" sights aren't loose
I keep it clean and properly lubed
I just didn't know where to go from here. Nothing obvious seems wrong, it just scatters right and left.
I'd sure appreciate any ideas you shooters might have.
cougar8040
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1SOW, have you figured out that problem yet?
Alfred Hitchglock
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I'm thinking about buying a Sig but I haven't decided on which model.
I think I have it narrowed down to either a P226 or a P229 in 9mm.
For those of you that own the P226 and P229 which would you pick first the 226 or the 229 ?
(I also like the P239 but I'm thinking that one of the larger framed guns have a slight advantage in accuracy and more capacity/firepower).
I own several GLOCKS (and a couple of 1911's) but I like the concept of DA/SA pistol with a decocker.
Also can anyone give me an opinion on the "Short Reset Trigger" equipped ("SRT") models.
Are they worth the extra money ?
Lastly, I would be interested to know how many here switched from GLOCK to Sig and why ?
I think I have it narrowed down to either a P226 or a P229 in 9mm.
For those of you that own the P226 and P229 which would you pick first the 226 or the 229 ?
(I also like the P239 but I'm thinking that one of the larger framed guns have a slight advantage in accuracy and more capacity/firepower).
I own several GLOCKS (and a couple of 1911's) but I like the concept of DA/SA pistol with a decocker.
Also can anyone give me an opinion on the "Short Reset Trigger" equipped ("SRT") models.
Are they worth the extra money ?
Lastly, I would be interested to know how many here switched from GLOCK to Sig and why ?
ezypikns
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My Two Cents Worth.
I had a 226, and although it's an outstanding firearm, I was looking for something with a little slimmer grip, because I don't have really big hands. Tried a P239 in 9mm. Of course it's a single stack (8 in the mag 1 in the chamber) so the grip is nice and slim. I think there are 10 rd. mags available.
It's not as bulky as some of the larger Sigs. The trigger reset has to be experienced to be believed. Double action trigger is light and smooth, and the single action trigger is nice and crisp. Accuracy on the P239 has been outstanding too. As far as a carry weapon it's just about ideal for me.
I purchased mine as a CPO (certified previously owned) model. for around 500.00. As far as a comparison to Glocks, I personally don't care for striker fired weapons. No knock on them, just not my preference.
I had a 226, and although it's an outstanding firearm, I was looking for something with a little slimmer grip, because I don't have really big hands. Tried a P239 in 9mm. Of course it's a single stack (8 in the mag 1 in the chamber) so the grip is nice and slim. I think there are 10 rd. mags available.
It's not as bulky as some of the larger Sigs. The trigger reset has to be experienced to be believed. Double action trigger is light and smooth, and the single action trigger is nice and crisp. Accuracy on the P239 has been outstanding too. As far as a carry weapon it's just about ideal for me.
I purchased mine as a CPO (certified previously owned) model. for around 500.00. As far as a comparison to Glocks, I personally don't care for striker fired weapons. No knock on them, just not my preference.
i have been a happy owner of both the 226 and the 229 (actually it's forerunner the 228) for many years.
the 226 is a better duty and training gun than the 229, but the 229 is better for CCW...as the butt is just the "right bit" shorter.
the 226 is more muzzle heavy if that suits your shooting style. i've had mine for 20+ years, but the 228 feels better when i CCW.
the SIG SRT gives you the short reset that S&W and Glock shooters are used to. it requires a certain committment to training to take advantage of the reset during rapid shots...not everyone can feel the difference.
i have my reset shortened when i have my actions tuned by Grayguns Inc...its done differently and makes me feel more comfortable
the 226 is a better duty and training gun than the 229, but the 229 is better for CCW...as the butt is just the "right bit" shorter.
the 226 is more muzzle heavy if that suits your shooting style. i've had mine for 20+ years, but the 228 feels better when i CCW.
the SIG SRT gives you the short reset that S&W and Glock shooters are used to. it requires a certain committment to training to take advantage of the reset during rapid shots...not everyone can feel the difference.
i have my reset shortened when i have my actions tuned by Grayguns Inc...its done differently and makes me feel more comfortable
TurboFC3S
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Never noticed this thread ... glad somebody bumped it up
I'm a Sig fanatic I guess, they're just so sexy in a utilitarian way. Right now I have 'en route to me a GrayGuns worked X-5 L1 and a 556 Commando. After they get here my collection will be:
P220 Platinum Elite
P220 West German
P220 SAO .22LR
P226 X-5 L1 in .40 worked by GrayGuns
P229 Platinum Elite in 9mm
P239 SAS Gen1 in .40
556 Commando
I'm a semi-pro photographer too, once the sun comes back out I'll setup a family shoot.
I'm a Sig fanatic I guess, they're just so sexy in a utilitarian way. Right now I have 'en route to me a GrayGuns worked X-5 L1 and a 556 Commando. After they get here my collection will be:
P220 Platinum Elite
P220 West German
P220 SAO .22LR
P226 X-5 L1 in .40 worked by GrayGuns
P229 Platinum Elite in 9mm
P239 SAS Gen1 in .40
556 Commando
I'm a semi-pro photographer too, once the sun comes back out I'll setup a family shoot.
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