Simple collection
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Remember, you can't collect them all. Just another way of saying there's always room for one more. 
That's part of the fun!
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That's part of the fun!
Mark
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I am trying to do the same thing, build a simple collection with one of each category.
Currently-
Shotguns
870 Wingmaster (trap/skeet)
Stevens 320 Security (HD)
H&R Topper 410 (For new ppl scared of big shotguns and rats)
Rifles
Old single shot, bolt action .22 with scope (long range plinking)
Ruger 10/22 (short range plinking)
Handguns
Ruger Security 6 .357/.38 (House gun)
Beretta Neos (Cheap semi-auto practice)
To be added (hopefully soon)-
Walther PPQ 9mm (Possible CCW)
Double action 22lr revolver (Cheap revolver practice)
TBD small concealable 9mm (CCW)
Savage Bolt action .223 (Long range not plinking)
Pistol Caliber Carbine in 9mm (Short range not plinking)
Nothing duplicated, everything has a purpose. Lots of shared ammo, might even go PX4/CX4 on the pistol and carbine to share magazines too.
Obviously could add an AR to the collection, but going for everything else first.
But, LopezEl looks like he is trying to narrow even further. I like the idea of "most complete collection in smallest number of guns." Good way to think about the value/use of each gun.
Currently-
Shotguns
870 Wingmaster (trap/skeet)
Stevens 320 Security (HD)
H&R Topper 410 (For new ppl scared of big shotguns and rats)
Rifles
Old single shot, bolt action .22 with scope (long range plinking)
Ruger 10/22 (short range plinking)
Handguns
Ruger Security 6 .357/.38 (House gun)
Beretta Neos (Cheap semi-auto practice)
To be added (hopefully soon)-
Walther PPQ 9mm (Possible CCW)
Double action 22lr revolver (Cheap revolver practice)
TBD small concealable 9mm (CCW)
Savage Bolt action .223 (Long range not plinking)
Pistol Caliber Carbine in 9mm (Short range not plinking)
Nothing duplicated, everything has a purpose. Lots of shared ammo, might even go PX4/CX4 on the pistol and carbine to share magazines too.
Obviously could add an AR to the collection, but going for everything else first.
But, LopezEl looks like he is trying to narrow even further. I like the idea of "most complete collection in smallest number of guns." Good way to think about the value/use of each gun.
bonza
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What's Missing?
A Martini-Henry in .577/.450.....every body should have one!
A Martini-Henry in .577/.450.....every body should have one!
J-Bar
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Don't buy anything because someone else tells you that you should have it. That makes it their collection, not yours.
It appears to me that you are doing just fine on your own!
It appears to me that you are doing just fine on your own!
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Omaha-BeenGlockin
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In my opinion, every basic collection needs:
1. A bolt action centerfire rifle--.308--.270--.30-06--.243--milsurp or commercial grade--take your pick.
2. Intermediate semi-auto rifle--AR--AK--Mini-14 ect........
3. Centerfire handgun--maybe break this in two with a full size and CCW compact
4. Rimfire handgun
5. Rimfire rifle
6. At least a cheap pump action shotgun---probably in 12ga
Most can be had for a very reasonable price except for the centerfire semi-auto rifle.
1. A bolt action centerfire rifle--.308--.270--.30-06--.243--milsurp or commercial grade--take your pick.
2. Intermediate semi-auto rifle--AR--AK--Mini-14 ect........
3. Centerfire handgun--maybe break this in two with a full size and CCW compact
4. Rimfire handgun
5. Rimfire rifle
6. At least a cheap pump action shotgun---probably in 12ga
Most can be had for a very reasonable price except for the centerfire semi-auto rifle.
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22-rimfire
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Omaha, that was my approach when I was between 16-25 and years ago. Things sort of changed as the years passed by.
There are 3 things I would buy for your collection. First I would buy a semi-auto .22 for plinking and for small varmint control. That Sako is super nice but if you're taking on a garbage dump full of rats trust me you'll want a semi-auto. My choice has always been a Marlin 60 for that purpose. They're dependable, accurate and inexpensive. Obviously Ruger 10/22's are also popular. IMO out of the box the 60 is a better rifle. But the Ruger can be made into a much better rifle with money to spend.
I'd also get a medium caliber, semi-auto rifle for protection in the worst of situations. Some even argue they are better than shotguns for home defense. I have an SKS and I love it but I bought it when they cost $100 and an AR was $1200 or more. I stocked up on ammo for that rifle or I'd probably switch to an AR. Both are nice weapons. The SKS is probably more reliable IMO but I'll no doubt catch flak for saying that.
I'd also get a long range hunting rifle. There are many calibers to choose from. A .30 caliber is probably the best choice with my vote going for the 30.06 but the .308 is also great. I don't know your situation but where I live they could come in handy. I'd buy a bolt action. Only people in wars generally need a semi-auto 30 caliber rifle.
I might also get (actually I did) a long range varmint rifle. Coyotes are a big problem in many places and if you have open space around wher eyou live i'd watch very closely for those pet killers. There are other nuisance animals if you live in the country on a farm. Ground hogs and p'dogs cause big problems. And feral pigs can be a huge problem. You may want to use the .30 caliber bolt rifle for that.
There are popular choices that people mention that I wouldn't bother with. For example I'm not a fan of lever guns. They were great in the 19th century. But this is the 21st century. Yes they kill many deer in the 20th century but a semi-auto is better in almost every way.
You already have some good weapons in that S&W 629-4. Only geniuses use that handgun. Did I tell you I have one? The Ruger pistol is also a great choice but not as useful as some weapons like .22 rifles as an example. Your Sako is among the best rimfires you can own BTW.
You have about 3/4ths of the guns I looked for to complete my collection of guns as tools. Once I got all those I needed I started on guns that I like. Only you know if you need the guns I suggested but they are guns that fill a specific role for you. Maybe you need that role filled and maybe you don't.
I'd also get a medium caliber, semi-auto rifle for protection in the worst of situations. Some even argue they are better than shotguns for home defense. I have an SKS and I love it but I bought it when they cost $100 and an AR was $1200 or more. I stocked up on ammo for that rifle or I'd probably switch to an AR. Both are nice weapons. The SKS is probably more reliable IMO but I'll no doubt catch flak for saying that.
I'd also get a long range hunting rifle. There are many calibers to choose from. A .30 caliber is probably the best choice with my vote going for the 30.06 but the .308 is also great. I don't know your situation but where I live they could come in handy. I'd buy a bolt action. Only people in wars generally need a semi-auto 30 caliber rifle.
I might also get (actually I did) a long range varmint rifle. Coyotes are a big problem in many places and if you have open space around wher eyou live i'd watch very closely for those pet killers. There are other nuisance animals if you live in the country on a farm. Ground hogs and p'dogs cause big problems. And feral pigs can be a huge problem. You may want to use the .30 caliber bolt rifle for that.
There are popular choices that people mention that I wouldn't bother with. For example I'm not a fan of lever guns. They were great in the 19th century. But this is the 21st century. Yes they kill many deer in the 20th century but a semi-auto is better in almost every way.
You already have some good weapons in that S&W 629-4. Only geniuses use that handgun. Did I tell you I have one?
The Ruger pistol is also a great choice but not as useful as some weapons like .22 rifles as an example. Your Sako is among the best rimfires you can own BTW. You have about 3/4ths of the guns I looked for to complete my collection of guns as tools. Once I got all those I needed I started on guns that I like. Only you know if you need the guns I suggested but they are guns that fill a specific role for you. Maybe you need that role filled and maybe you don't.
My most used gun is my "deep conceal" piece, a Ruger KLCR .357 w/ Crimson Trace grips. However I see you had an LCR and traded it off so I guess you didn't care for it. Still, another type of handy carry gun would be useful, maybe an S&W would be more to your liking. I'd also at least get a shorter barrel for the 870 to use as a home defense piece.
Beyond that, what shooting opportunities do you have? If you don't have easy access to a decent rifle range or other place to shoot a centerfire rifle would likely be of little use especially as you say you're not a hunter. If you do have access to at least a reasonable range a carbine could be a lot of fun. AR's are a bunch of fun even if you don't do mag dumps. If you don't care for the plastic look have you ever seen one refit with wood furniture? Very attractive IMHO, but as always YMMV.
Beyond that, what shooting opportunities do you have? If you don't have easy access to a decent rifle range or other place to shoot a centerfire rifle would likely be of little use especially as you say you're not a hunter. If you do have access to at least a reasonable range a carbine could be a lot of fun. AR's are a bunch of fun even if you don't do mag dumps. If you don't care for the plastic look have you ever seen one refit with wood furniture? Very attractive IMHO, but as always YMMV.
1John1:9
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"I'm partial to lever rifles so maybe a 44mag lever to share ammo with the smith?"
I am with you on this one. I don't have either one, and you've got me wanting both.
I am with you on this one. I don't have either one, and you've got me wanting both.
Manny he has a Smith & Wesson 629. What kind of S&W are you thinking he should get? Some 629's have short barrels making them great carry guns. A little heavy maybe but that doesn't bother some people. I've carried my 629 around quite a bit but not concealed. Mine has a 8.5" barrel.
sig228
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Nice collection. Since you asked for a "glaring" omission, those would be a snubbie in 38/357 and an AR 15.
oldbear
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LopezEl, if someone has already suggested this, sorry. But IMO, every collection needs at least one high quality .357 Magnum revolver. Something along the lines of a Smith and Wesson M-19 or M-586.
Deog
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You need a 44 mag lever gun to go with your 44 mag revolver.
http://www.marlinfirearms.com/Firearms/1894centerfire/1894SS.asp
A hunting rifle in .243, .270 or 30-06.
Maybe a Ruger mini 14 ranch, always a useful and fun gun that can take some abuse.
http://www.marlinfirearms.com/Firearms/1894centerfire/1894SS.asp
A hunting rifle in .243, .270 or 30-06.
Maybe a Ruger mini 14 ranch, always a useful and fun gun that can take some abuse.
Being that he mentioned a deep conceal gun, the various J-frame models come to mind. With the dizzying array of models S&W offers he might find something that appeals more. As he didn't mention why he traded off the LCR I am making an assumption he didn't care for it.
As to snubby N-frames, while they may be easier to conceal then their longer barreled bretheren, they are still big, relatively heavy guns (though Scandium models would change the weight issue somewhat). I had and liked a 3" 657, but not as a CCW gun. IMHO that is the provenance of J-frames and similar with my choice being a KLCR. While larger guns can be carried, generally you have to dress around them, just more than I want to deal with. YMMV.
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Viottato
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+1, Maybe a 10/22 Take Down version, and a .308 Rifle, Remington 700 or 7600.
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