Slide Fire Stock

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I cant see why a guy has to have a pratical application for everything. Most everyone that badmouths a slidefire stock has never owned one and has probably never even shot one. Im 57 years old and i have one and its a ball to shoot. Ive yet to see anyone ive had with me shoot in without a big smile on there face and if there was ever a practical application for a firearm to me its putting a smile on my face of someone elses. Every time i take my 458 out im not shoot elephants and every time i take a 257 wby out im not shooting deer at 500 yards. Everytime i take my 500 linebaughs out im not slaying dinasours. What I am doing in each of these cases is having a good time.
 
Wow, this was scary Lloyd Smale....I have the SF's for and AR and AK and experience the same smiles from people that shoot with me.....we also shoot .458 Lott on a regular basis. I'm also 57 years old....are you sure you're not me OR I'm not you??

Nah, I'm positive we're different people since I don't have any Linebaughs or Weatherby calibers....we DO shoot .50BMG though.

I, personally, don't care if other people don't like the SF's...I'm a collector and collect all things guns....besides, they WILL probably be banned eventually so I'm glad I got them when I did.

Enjoy your shooting my friend and I'm glad there's at least two of us in this world!
 
Lloyd Smale & Fleetman I'll third what you've said I've the AR and AK slidefires and they are fun. If tuning money into noise was not serious fun that put smiles on people's faces, we'd never have fireworks shows!

If you can explain how a bump-fire stock helps you in a survival situation, that would be perfectly acceptable.
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I've mentioned this before in other slidefire threads, but in a TEOTWAWKI situation a few bursts from a slidefire could make the Goblins think you have full auto and plenty of ammo! and thus move on to potentially easier pickings.
 
Ain't this the stock that Peirs Morgan said during the Nugent interview can fire a hundred rounds a second?? Gotta be true, Peirs said so.... HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
 
I too have SF on my AK and AR15! Loads of fun! And yes, I'll be 60 years old in 2 months. I legally own a select fire MAC10/45, it is fun also! Bought it back in 1980 cheap...:D

AND,

I like to spend money on things like SF because I have money to burn!:D
 
I'd say SF can be used very well. You can control SF much better than FA since you can use it for burst.
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Sounds like you may have never shot a machine gun but they all stop shooting when you let off the trigger. Even with the very fast ones over 1000rpm 3 shot bursts are possible.

The reason you can control machine guns better than the slide fire is because the rifle doesn't have to be in free recoil except for your arm that is moving it back and forth.



If tuning money into noise was not serious fun that put smiles on people's faces, we'd never have fireworks shows!
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A few years ago my mother in law had come down for our annual 4th of July cookout and fireworks show, stayed the night and was at our machine gun shoot the next day. When she asked "what are those good for" I reminded her of how everyone had such a good time watching the fireworks last night and pointed at a pile of ashes where all of the left over firework trash had been burned and told her that was all that was left from $2500. With the machine guns we would go through less money in more time and still have everything except the powder, primer and bullets to take home and do it again.
 
cal30_sniper said:
I'm sorry, but how is this useful at all? As 2nd Amendment proponents, we take great issue with the anti's claim that semi-automatic rifles can easily be converted to full auto. While anyone with any knowledge understands that that is a technical impossibility, this stock design turns it into the practical equivalent of a full auto. What's the (non-technical) difference?

Not trying to start a flaming contest here, but why should we give the anti's any more ammo than they already have?
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Converting a semi-automatic anything into full auto is not a technical impossibility with the right know-how, skill and equipment. The main non-technical difference is simply the mechanism. A slide fire doesn't change how the gun works. The trigger still has to be pulled each time. The HellFire was the same. No modifications to the firing mechanism.
 
Purchased two of the afore mentioned units. May buy more if found at a deal or already installed on a rifle someone needs to turn into cash quickly. Installed them, tested, grinned and then put them up for a rainy day. I don't need six motorcycles as my wife can only ride one each at a time. I don't need most of my toys but I do enjoy them.
 
Pretty much a gimmick. If you got the money for all the goodies you want then more power to u and have fun. For anyone working on a tighter budget, I'd find a better use for the money.
 
Pretty much a gimmick. If you got the money for all the goodies you want then more power to u and have fun. For anyone working on a tighter budget, I'd find a better use for the money.
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because you cant aford one or cant afford to buy the ammo doesnt make it a gimmick. Last i looked i cant afford a new harley or a new porche either but that sure doesnt mean there a gimmic and everyone should drive a prius!
 
Lloyd, I don't think those two comments were supposed to be so directly related. He's not saying it's a gimmick because it costs a lot to own and run. I think he's saying it is a gimmick AND it costs a lot to own and run.

A slight difference of just one word, but it changes the meaning in significant ways.
 
the same logic applies to laser sights.....they aren't cheap and MAY allow someone to shoot better so they could be considered a gimmick and they do cost a lot...comparatively speaking when looking at CT grips or a Tasco red dot sight.

Not everyone can afford what everyone else has or even wants. Me? I want gun stuff and buy whatever I can afford....when I can't afford it then I don't buy it.

I'm certainly not trying to start an argument in here....I have SF's on MY firearms because I like them....are they practical? Nope! But neither is my .50BMG, or .458 Lott, or Remington 700 .338 Win Mag, or Marlin 336 .30-30, or Ruger 10-22, or Crosman .177 pellet gun, and on and on and on. I say this because I don't hunt (thus the reason I brought up the Marlin) but I do like to target shoot, I have my own range, and a herd of grandchildren that learned to shoot safely and enjoy it tremendously.
 
Like a few of you other fellas who have posted, I'm also an old guy. The slide-fire is actually reasonably controlable with a little bit of practice and shorter bursts. It is also a whole hell of a lot of fun!!

It would be a little rich for my blood for an AR right now though. However on a 74' shooting old Soviet spam can stuff, its a blast (ok...pun intended). Wish I had one for one of my ARs (if I could afford to shoot the ammo). One of my ARs is HBAR and would seem to be just right for SF.

To each his own.
 
I guess sam i look at it like this. Because i dont need a gps in my truck is it a gimmic? because any deer on the planet can be shot with a 243 is a 7mag a gimmic? Because a 3030 winchester can defend your family is an ar a gimmic? I look at it this way. I cant afford the 30k it cost for a class 3 gun. Just isnt happening. For about 300 i can go out and have a little fun when the mood strikes me and can do it without having to get the federal goverment involved in my life. Ive probably have 50k into loading gear and double that into guns. What the hell is 300 bucks to have a little fun once in a while. Im sure not one of those dreamers that thinks its going to be used for some sort of stupid zombie attack. What its used for is having fun and it does that just fine in my book and is well worth the 300 bucks it cost for that fun. I kind of chuckle at guys who think that because they cant handle or dont need a mag rifle someone else who does is stupid or a knuckle dragger. Or think the same of me because i like shooting my 475 and 500 linebaughs and even shooting little deer with them because they dont. Same goes here. If you dont want one fine, dont buy one but why badmouth something because it doesnt fit into your idea of what makes sense.

[Lloyd, I don't think those two comments were supposed to be so directly related. He's not saying it's a gimmick because it costs a lot to own and run. I think he's saying it is a gimmick AND it costs a lot to own and run.

A slight difference of just one word, but it changes the meaning in significant ways./QUOTE]
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its the beauty of being an ameriCAN. you dont NEED a reason to buy anything. this is like getting mad at people for buying a $100, 000+ super car. because 99% of the owners never use them to their potential. but some buy a $35, 000 used corvette and do.... its what seperates us from the rest of the world.

ill never have one, but thats because I dont have money to burn :(
 
Sounds like alot of fun. I was even thnking of getting one. But ammo alone is so hard to get and burning through 30 rounds in 2 seconds isn't my type of fancy now.
 
Last year I bit the bullet and bought one for the AK direct from manufacturer. It was one of those things that worked but didn't work, sometimes it would fire consistently then next time only one or two rounds was all it would do. As for control this one was more of the spray and pray type application. Got rid of it and very happy that I didn't loose money on the deal, several months later I did a trade for one that worked on the AR platform. From the first to the last round it preformed perfectly, control was no problem and I could keep rounds inside a 5-6 inch space with no problem. I did sell it because I totaled up the number of rounds fired in 30-40 seconds and at this time I see no need for it just from that monetary aspect. If I still had my loading setup most likely I would still have the slide fire stock. Is it a novelty ?? Yes and No. but to each their own.
 
I personally think the Slide Fire is a poorly made gimmick. I see zero point to bump firing in the first place. I doubt one could accurately place 3rds into a torso sized target at 25 yards or farther using this device.

However, I do think that full auto should be 50 state legal for anyone over 21 and legally able to own firearms. :D
 
local gun store sells slidefire stocks like hotcakes.

i'll be the last one to discourage someone from having fun, but the first one to non-concur with someone who thinks slidefire is effective for any practical use.
 
Sounds like you may have never shot a machine gun but they all stop shooting when you let off the trigger. Even with the very fast ones over 1000rpm 3 shot bursts are possible.
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Yep - a friend of mine brought a full-auto SMG out to the range one day (a MAC10). Took me a while to actually fire more than TWO shots. I was so afraid of it spraying bullets that when I'd press the trigger I'd inevitably end up letting to of it after a 2 round burst. Eventually we did load up a magazine just to shoot till empty.

Fun experience, but not terribly useful to me even as a "real" full-auto. Still, I'll admit that I'm personally not one to harp on something needed a purpose to own. Some things are just for fun, and if anyone wants to order a slide-fire then have at it.
 
ive shot both slide fire and true full auto guns and with a bit a practice in my opinion the slidefire if anything is easier to keep on target. you need to hold back on the forearm to make it work. With a forward pistol grip you naturaly tend to hold the barrel down once youve practiced with it a bit. Most who shoot a full auto gun tend to have the barrel pointed at the sky after about 3 rounds. Where the full auto really shines over the bump fire stock is it takes alot less thinking and less motor skills to shoot. I really dont feel theres a place for a bump fire stock in combat or self defense. Not to many are going to have the presence of mind to use it reliably in the heat of a fire fight. but i dont see anyone anywhere claiming thats what they bought one for. there bought to have fun with and they do good at that.
 
I really hate the "need" or "usefull" arguments. It's that kind of talk that gets some news guy/gal saying "even x% of NRA members agree on more gun control."
 
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