Smart Glock-style guns that can only be fire by a verified user... available in the US this year

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You know that slippery slope argument that I always get told by debaters isn't a valid argument well I happen to believe the slippery slope is alive and well in many areas of our lives, this particular example notwithstanding.

Color me cynical about this technology but I will cheer on all the failures of such technology to get established and into the marketplace. Am I about banning such technology, absolutely not; as that in itself is an erosion of freedoms. But I'm not naive to what taking this technology to it's desired end leads to.

Personal responsibility is paramount with firearms. It's not like there aren't FREE resources to secure firearms available to parents of children to keep them safe around guns.
 
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Like a Lawgiver!

That would be kewl!
 
You don't know that as new guns sales are constant and high. If they were the only new game in town, folks may still buy them and they might attract new owners.

Another problem is that the gun tech seems to be confined to Glock 19 sized guns for now. That would hit the new booming compact market.
 
GEM said:
You don't know that as new guns sales are constant and high. If they were the only new game in town, folks may still buy them and they might attract new owners.

Another problem is that the gun tech seems to be confined to Glock 19 sized guns for now. That would hit the new booming compact market.
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You bring up a good point that should not be overlooked.

Now would be the perfect time for Federal to short all other cartridges and push through ramped up production of 30SC so it's everywhere on shelves. The unprepared shooters, new shooters, and salesman would have a heyday selling the only cartridge in stock, along with a new gun to shoot it.

The above is ridiculous but in the light of making money, it wouldn't surprise me; despite all the recent "We are in this shortage together" we've seen from the manufacturers as of late.
 
Used to be something like this back in the 80/90s that Ayoob would push once in a while. It worked off a ring on your finger so it was a mechanical device. Cant remember the name.

First time I remember hearing about a signature gun was License To Kill with Timmy Dalton. So the concept has been around a long time. Somebody just decided to dust it off and bring it back. Wet dream for totalitarianism lovers.

any good use of it will be outweighed by the bad ten fold. Like I said... Trojan Horse. If you are that sloppy with a firearm its probably better off sticking to mace or rubberband guns until you develop propper safety protocals around lethal particle accelerators.

Then again we are in an age where people want cars that drive themselves and I hear breathalizers on cars are on the way to tell folks if they are drunk or not.
 
Their business model will be to sell highly overpriced firearms with government subsidies, regulation, or law.

From the article: "The fingerprint reader unlocks the gun in microseconds, but since it may not work when wet or in other adverse conditions, the PIN pad is there as a backup. "

I can see a problem with them already. Its -1 today where I live. Lets shoot this thing. Whoops it won't read fingerprints through my gloves, switching to pin. Hmmm. What's my pin again? Silly me, now I remember. How do I enter that again? Doh, entered it wrong. Stupid pin reader doesn't like my gloves. I can always throw the gun at something.
 
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I don't understand the hate these get. While I'm not interested, we should be welcoming to new technology for anyone who is interested. This is just one more layer of safety for a parent of small children so I'm all for it.

Trying to get this stuff banned is like trying to ban handgun safes or manual safeties.
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I hope this fails miserably. Not for safety reasons, I’m all for that. But for political ones. If you like firearms, I think you should, too.

In all seriousness, should this get accepted what is to stop your state from then limiting you to buying only this gun and banning the sale of any other non-“smart” guns, period?

If you don’t think that’s possible, go buy a new SA 35 in a Ca gun store. Or a Glock 48. Or a Dan Wesson Bruin. Or most of the hundreds of other new guns out there.

You can’t.

Ca says they’re “unsafe” so no new ones can be sold to the general public. Only those guns on a “DOJ roster of safe guns” can be sold. Guns now on the list sunset over time, so more choices get dropped every new year.

I get what you’re saying, no one wants unintended or purposeful misuse of firearms. But in this case be very, very careful what you wish for. Experience has proven the slippery slope of good intentions falling into an insane reality is very steep, and is almost impossible to reverse.

Stay safe.
 
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What's a "Glock-style" gun?o_O
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Its a marketing ploy to get glock lovers to be interested in something. Glock Killer..... Glock Clone....etc. etc. Brand hijacking used to get market exposure through a known product. Old trick. it attempts to pull market share but often backfires badly.

Examples... The new Dune movie... Its Star Wars for adults! 30super is the new 9mm for CCW! etc. etc.
 
If this gets anywhere near politicians, I can see them mandating this as the only guns people can have, you know, because the children.

Their "sensible" gun laws would outlaw all others, instantly making millions criminals.

Remember how quick they were to try and mandate guns that stamped primers with a registration number and ammo that could be traced. Neither worked, but they tried to do it before it was shown to be unworkable.

Edit: @Riomouse911 You posted similar thoughts while I was typing mine.
Brilliant minds...
 
Riomouse911 said:
I hope this fails miserably. Not for safety reasons, I’m all for that. But for political ones. If you like firearms, I think you should, too.

In all seriousness, should this get accepted what is to stop your state from then limiting you to buying only this gun and banning the sale of any other non-“smart” guns, period?

If you don’t think that’s possible, go buy a new SA 35 in a Ca gun store. Or a Glock 48. Or a Dan Wesson Bruin. Or most of the hundreds of other new guns out there.

You can’t.

Ca says they’re “unsafe” so no new ones can be sold to the general public. Only those guns on a “DOJ roster of safe guns” can be sold. Guns now on the list sunset over time, so more choices get dropped every new year.

I get what you’re saying, no one wants unintended or purposeful misuse of firearms. But in this case be very, very careful what you wish for. Experience has proven the slippery slope of good intentions falling into an insane reality is very steep, and is almost impossible to reverse.

Stay safe.
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Insurance companies can jump in and require you to switch to smart guns or they wont give you coverage.

You own guns that dont have new safety technology.... must be a mental issue because smart guns are "reasonable". Better set up a visit with a doctor to be evaluated.
 
Speedo66 said:
If this gets anywhere near politicians, I can see them mandating this as the only guns people can have, you know, because the children.

Their "sensible" gun laws would outlaw all others, instantly making millions criminals.

Remember how quick they were to try and mandate guns that stamped primers with a registration number and ammo that could be traced. Neither worked, but they tried to do it before it was shown to be unworkable.
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you got it. If it was a benefit for us they would ban it. They are still trying to figure out 3d printing now that the cat is out of the bag.

Probably be a tracking device in these smart guns as well.... for safety and all.

I guess nobody learned anything from cell phones.
 
Free market? ...sure, but some seem to be naive to what the goal is regarding the current administration's long term plan for gun control. They are patient and will undermine legal gun ownership any way they can.

WHAT'S IN MALONEY'S BILL?

The new Handgun Trigger Safety Act would require that, within five years of it being signed into law by President Biden, all newly manufactured handguns must be personalized so that they can only be operated by authorized users. Ten years after it became law, anyone selling a handgun must first retrofit it with personalization technology.

The law in its current form would also get the government deeper into the business of further underwriting smart guns. It would authorize grants to further research and develop the technology and provide reimbursement to gun makers to defray the expense of retrofitting handguns. The money would come from the Department of Justice Assets Forfeiture Fund.
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https://www.guns.com/news/2021/02/11/new-bill-requires-retrofitting-guns-to-be-smarter
 
back in the 1950's one company offered seatbelts. Who cars? I can buy a car without seatbelts.
Or Airbags, or ABS, or ESC or TPMS, or DTRL.
Oh wait, the government forces the industry to integrate anything safety orientated.
The fed already established that they would demand features on imported firearms. This will be mandated one day, assuming the 2A doesn't disappear before that.
 
Speedo66 said:
If this gets anywhere near politicians, I can see them mandating this as the only guns people can have, you know, because the children.

Their "sensible" gun laws would outlaw all others, instantly making millions criminals.

Remember how quick they were to try and mandate guns that stamped primers with a registration number and ammo that could be traced. Neither worked, but they tried to do it before it was shown to be unworkable.

Edit: @Riomouse911 You posted similar thoughts while I was typing mine.
Brilliant minds...
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I think NJ passed a law 15-20 years ago that already mandated as soon as the first gun with biotechnology was sold, that is all they would be selling... something like that... maybe a two year period before it is fully enforced.

Leave it to a blue state to pass a law pre mandating that something be sold based on technology that doesn't exist yet. lol

Edited: Looks like NJ already repealed that law in 2019 (by a Democrat gov... the current one). So with a repeal of a law mandating the new tech already on the books, it doesn't look like there will be a wave of laws coming. But never underestimate a blue state gov.
 
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Riomouse911 said:
I hope this fails miserably. Not for safety reasons, I’m all for that. But for political ones. If you like firearms, I think you should, too.

In all seriousness, should this get accepted what is to stop your state from then limiting you to buying only this gun and banning the sale of any other non-“smart” guns, period?

If you don’t think that’s possible, go buy a new SA 35 in a Ca gun store. Or a Glock 48. Or a Dan Wesson Bruin. Or most of the hundreds of other new guns out there.

You can’t.

Ca says they’re “unsafe” so no new ones can be sold to the general public. Only those guns on a “DOJ roster of safe guns” can be sold. Guns now on the list sunset over time, so more choices get dropped every new year.

I get what you’re saying, no one wants unintended or purposeful misuse of firearms. But in this case be very, very careful what you wish for. Experience has proven the slippery slope of good intentions falling into an insane reality is very steep, and is almost impossible to reverse.

Stay safe.
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Then fight those laws. Because if your logic is "technology bad because politicians" then there's really nothing stopping them from banning everything except single action revolvers and mandating those always have trigger locks attached.
 
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