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Smith & Wesson .357 8-shot thoughts?

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  1. bikemutt

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    Smith has quite few N-frame offerings that are chambered for 8 rounds of 357/38. My gunsmith has a TRR8 which he adores, I haven't shot it but sure seems like a nice piece. I don't particularly care for the TRR8 or R8 variants as they appear a bit to far on the tacticool side of things, but there are some nice looking Performance Center 627 guns out there.

    Anyone own and/or shot one of these and cares to share the experience, good or bad?

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  2. MrBorland

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    I have a 4" 627 Pro that I picked up, planning on using it for USPSA now that they're allowing 8-shot revos to play (When things speed up, I prefer the balance of a 4" gun over a 5"). Their new 8-shot 9mm will likely show up there as well. Either would make a good HD and/or range gun, but they're big for CC.

    My opinion's pretty utilitarian - the gun's fine. Not much else I can say. It's the right tool for the job - accurate enough, goes bang, has an interchangeable front sight (a nice feature), and will get an action job as a matter of course.

    Reloads aren't gonna be all that quick with .357mags, or even .38spls, even with moonclips. My gamer loads are based on the .38LC.
     
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    I had a Taurus 608 which I am sorry I let go.
     
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    And I have a Taurus 608 that I would love to get rid of. That gun is so rough, loose, and out of time from day one. And no, I didn't get to hold it, or check it out before my Son came home with it.

    As for the S&W's, they are made right, the one's I've looked at and fired have been nothing short of typical S&W quality, IMO.

    GS
     
  5. Guy B. Meredith

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    Revolver competition enthusiasts dote on the "Jerry (Miculek) gun" and use it quite a bit in competition. Very popular. Jerry and others have used it set up for .38 super as well as the .38 spl.

    I've used my PC 627 V-Comp in competition quite a bit and it is what led me to have my 686+ machined for moonclips.
     
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    I have the five inch 627 Performabce Center gun. It a great piece. It is weird getting used to the two extra rounds in The cylinder.

    Mine had a bent frame from the factory. It had to go back for a new frame. It shot 6-7 feet left at 50 yards.!

    The Perf Center trigger was good. A Wolff spring kit and a bit of sear honing made it a lot better.

    But I really like the revolver now. It shoots under an inch of sand bags at 25 yards..!
     
  7. 460Shooter

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    Personal preferance on the particular model is up to each person. But to 8 rounds of .357........ I say YES!
     
  8. 357 Terms

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    I have a PC 627 V-comp from 03, great trigger, shoots excellent.

    I have more practical 357's for carry and hunting, I don't compete, but if I did this Smith would be perfect.
    Right now it is just a range toy, but could be used for home defense or for hunting easily.
    I still have not perfected quick 357 moonclip reloads, 38spc reloads are a bit easier.

    This revolver is the most smooth gun I own by far, love it!
     
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    I don't have one of the PC guns but I do have a 327 Night Guard. It is my favorite field carry gun - lightweight, handy, accurate, and easy to carry - and who can argue with 8rds of .357mag!
     
  10. bigtubby

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    I am not a tacticool person either but bought a used R8 may be my best shooter. Got a very nice prelock V-comp and a 627 pro. The 627 pro has not been out of the safe for the last 2 years not a knock on the gun but the 5" barrels got lots of room to stretch out in the Nevada desert. I think you would be happy with any of these choices and I am currently looking for a good deal on a used TRR8. Here is a pic of the V-comp and a Zombied 686 snub

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  11. bikemutt

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    bigtubby, I'm watching a v-comp myself, no-lock of course.

    I can imagine $1500 +/- for a nice pre-lock, 8-shot Smith; $2500 I'm struggling with. At that price we are into custom 1911 territory, and I've fondled some darn nice custom 1911s.
     
  12. bigtubby

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    Ya the prelocks are getting up there my V-comp came with the false muzzle the comp & the aluminum case and maybe a set of smooth wood grips. Picked it up about 3 years ago off a private party $900 OTD.
     
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    Jerry Miculek has S&W's ear and obviously wants everything done on the familiar N frame, exhibitions with the 500 notwithstanding. S&W feels they ought to add each one to their catalog, I guess. Word is he has huge hands, while others may find an L frame a better fit.

    Once you get to 357 in an N frame, the 8 shot capacity is natural. I like my N frames and have smallish hands, but the guns are 6 shooters in large calibers (45 ACP, 41 Magnum, 44 Magnum). The guns are big only because they need to be, when at 6 rounds.
     
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    "357 Mag 8 X" Ultimate Defensive Revolver :D


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    I always liked the 5" bbl slab side 627. If they made an 8 shot 627 with the weighted bbl system the Competitor guns use, I'd consider one.
     
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    My only gripe. Finding brass that doesn't wiggle in the moon clip or require pliers to get the empty brass off the clip after shooting.
     
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    I shoot the S&W PC 8 shot 627's in 38/357and 38 Super. S&W has recently announced the availability in 9mm. They are great guns in the competition world.
     
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    "Finding brass that doesn't wiggle in the moon clip or require pliers to get the empty brass off the clip after shooting."

    Just get de-mooner if your fingers can't take it. They're no worse than loading double stack pistol magazines in my experience (most of my brass has been Hornady).

    As far as "slow reloading," there is a fast and obvious solution; Hornady FTX LeveRevolution bullets. You cut the case back ~.1" for the extra bullet length (their brass is a bit shorter from the get go) and load it like you normally would for a similar bullet weight, and you'd be hard pressed to jam them up on their way into the chambers. I'll never be anywhere as close to Jerry, of course, but I can "slap" these pointed bullets into the gun without looking just like he does, and it didn't take much practice. Carrying these clips without getting made is still difficult (not bending them is easy, use a moon clip case like you're supposed to). I wish someone would try to make half-moons, since I think they would work fantastically for carriers; the clips would be weaker, but probably still good enough, and much flatter. I found the Five-Star speedloaders much harder to use; they both hold the rounds even more loosely, and also totally obstruct the cylinder making it hard to quickly see what's wrong when they hang up on something. They are very nicely made though, and the only option there is for less than 200$.

    TCB
     
  19. Guy B. Meredith

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    Moonclips are made in different thicknesses to accommodate different brass. There is no industry standard for the width of the groove. I use clips made by TK Custom for the Starline brass I favor in reloading.

    By the way, I can attest to Jerry's very beefy hands. They swallow mine up in a handshake.
     
  20. Green Lantern

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    Mine looks like this one:
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    I'm no highly experienced revolver aficionado who has handled dozens of different types - I just know that I like it. ;)

    Mine isn't set up for moon clips, but the 5-Star speedloaders, as seen in Cocked and Locked's post, are pretty nice.
     
  21. Guy B. Meredith

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    Oh, did I mention that I got my 1999 PC 627 V-comp pre lock in aluminum case for $20? With a special run serial number, no less.
     
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    I have one like Green Lantern's and I can tell you it tends to put a big smile on anyone's face who shoots it.
     
  23. bikemutt

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    Let's see a picture of the warrant, LOL
     
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    Guys, I decided not to chase the 8-shot guns right now, I'm as far from away from a competition shooter as Kermit the frog is to red.

    I have purchased, online, a nice looking 686 Classic Performance Center gun that should scratch the itch for now. That one, along with my PC 686-4 plus 7-shot, will have to fill the bill.

    I'll post up when I get the new one :)
     
  25. Guy B. Meredith

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    Bikemutt,

    I joined ICORE and attended an IRC in Morro Bay. Smith and Wesson is lavishly supportive (usually in the range of 25 guns on the prize table) so they had several special production run 627s to give away. One was for encouraging the most new ICORE members, one was a random drawing for new members (I was a new member but did not win that draw) and yet another on a raffle. I bought $20 worth of raffle tickets and ended up the very happy owner of a special production run PC 627 V-comp.

    We had been at the International Revolver Championship matches in Morro Bay, California (Hogue range). I was not going to attend the award ceremony as I thought that a special event for participants, but my wife encouraged me to schmooz. I came back to her afterwards with an international championship s*** eating grin and a ticket for the 627 in my hand.

    Moral of the story? Join ICORE and participate in the International Revolver Championship.
     
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