Smith & Wesson MP - REVIEW? Any Caliber

[usmarine0352_2005]

Has anyone shot the Smith & Wesson MP in any caliber?

I have very small hands. Would this be a good gun for someone with small hands?

What do you think about it?

Has anyone heard if S & W is coming out with an all "Stainless" slide?

I read about the S& W MP rusting earlier, and don't want that problem.

Thanks in advance.

 

[News Shooter]

They are great guns

I've got a .45 and a 9mm

They have changeable grips in different sizes for folks like you.

Always try them first before buying though

 

[MontanaBighorn]

hello,
i own an m&p .40 and it has become my daily carry. CLICK HERE for my complete review of this great weapon.

as for small hands, i have "little girl" hands and find that the medium "palmswell" (dunno why they had to make it difficult, its a backstrap!) is a perfect fit. the smaller "palmswell" was just a bit small for me.

it only takes a second to change them out, get your dealer to get them for you and try it on for size.

as for the slide, it is stainless. are you asking about non-treated? the rusted m&p was an odd occurance, ive heard of no other issues. perhas there is something about the chemistry of that particular shooter. perhaps there was an issue with that particular batch. regardless, rust shouldnt be a real concern for you.

 

[SouthpawShootr]

Try this one: Clicky

I have found Coronach's posts to be the most objective and informative. He's shot these things alot and has a bunch of helpful posts in other threads.

 

[mec]

Quinn at Gunblast.com likes them very much

 

[Coronach]

AFAIK, S&W is not doing a two-tone slide, but I'm not up on that, specifically. Lots of places can hard chrome it or otherwise refinish it for you, so you can get that look if you want. The thing should not rust- it's melonite over stainless. Some have had some rust issues, though, so it can happen.

The guns are good for people with small hands. Try before you buy, and make sure you try the smallest backstrap- gunshops will have the medium on by default, most likely.

They're good guns. They've had some glitches, but S&W seems to be on top of fixing them. In particular, the compacts have mag drop issues (the mags eject under recoil). S&W allegedly has that fixed, but only time will tell.

Mike

 

[gudel]

I like mine. Mine's a 45, I posted a thread with pics a few days ago. Go look for it.

 

[hceptj]

I carry a m&p c 9mm daily and have never had a problem with rust (its carried IWB)...I love mine and have recommended it to a lot of friends...

...i have medium hands and as stated above, play around with the grip inserts, you'll find one that fits you...

 

[ra407]

I have the MP9. Can anyone tell me why my slide doesn't stay back when all shots have been fired?

 

[Dean407]

Take a look at the following if you have small hands as I do...

1) HK P2000 (SK)
2) Springfield XD
3) Sig 239
4) CZ P-01
5) Beretta PX4
6) FNP

...in addition the the M&P

 

[SouthpawShootr]

I have the MP9. Can anyone tell me why my slide doesn't stay back when all shots have been fired?

Could be one or a combination of 2 things. It's either the slide lock or the magazine follower. If it does this with all of the mags you have, it's probably the slide lock. Maybe something out of spec on it. Of course, if all you have is the 2 mags that came with the gun, you could very well have both mags with bad followers (the chance of this is reduced if you have magazines you bought at a different time than the pistol). Call S&W. They can probably send the parts out to you. If they want the gun back, they send you a shipping label and the shipping will be on them.

 

[Coronach]

yeah, something is out of spec. S&W will fix it.

Mike

 

[ra407]

I took the gun out today before I read your reply's. Out of about 9 mags shot, it did it once or twice, compared to alot more yesterday. I will take it out again in a few days and pinpoint which magazine it is. I am hoping it is a breaking in issue. Thanks

 

[SouthpawShootr]

I suppose it could very well be a break in issue. Did the events you related in your initial post occur with the first outing with the pistol? If that's the case, did you by any chance not clean the pistol after you bought it but before you shot it? I've seen this alot, even done it myself. What's the round count on this gun?

My experiences with Glocks (which so often function 100% out of the box) have spoiled me. I bought a SIgPro NIB and failed to clean it before shooting. Lots of problems first range trip. I was ready to sell it. But cleaned it really well (and the mags too), then lubed it up and went back. It's functioned 100% since then. I've rarely found it necessary to disassemble mags, but the SigPros mags had some sort of super sticky preservative on them that wasn't very conductive to proper functioning.

 

[Coronach]

What's your roundcount? If it is low, it might indeed be a break-in issue. Keep an eye on it, however, and send it to Smith of it doesn't stop. If it hasn't stopped by round 500, it's time to call customer service.

Mike

 

[armed85]

I had several problems with my Compact, but Smith repaired it under warranty, paid for shipping, and upgraded the sights to night sights all free of charge. The night sight upgrade was quite nice and the gun has functioned reliability so far.

I don't yet trust it, but I have high hopes. It's the most comfortable .40 S&W I've got my hands on yet. The only other compact polymer gun I would consider is Walter's PPS.

My near $1,000 Colt XSE Combat Commander is my favorite CCW though. My Colt hit the $1k mark after I bought a set of black linen Micarta grips for it. It's a verrrrry nice looking and verrry practical CCW.

But, for $500, you can't go wrong with the M&P.

 

[Thad]

Have the 40 I love it. No problems to report. Very comfortable to shoot, I too have small hands.

 

[usmarine0352_2005]

Is the Smith & Wesson M&P hammerless?

I really liked Springfield XD .45, but it's not a choice. (I would definitely recommend the XD to anyone who wanted a good gun.)

 

[SouthpawShootr]

The S&W M&P semiautos are striker fired. Like the Glock, Sigma, XD, and a host of other designs. There is no hammer present.

I neglected some of the questions in your original post.

I have very small hands. Would this be a good gun for someone with small hands?

This design has interchangeable backstraps. Small, Medium, Large, with the full size. You'll have to try it out with the small to find out for sure. The gun usually comes with the medium backstrap installed.

What do you think about it?

Very good pistol from what I can tell. Well deserving the S&W marque.

Has anyone heard if S & W is coming out with an all "Stainless" slide?

Already have. The slide is melonite finished stainless steel on all models.

I read about the S& W MP rusting earlier, and don't want that problem.

You know stainless will rust, right? Some people will neglect their guns or some have super corrosive sweat that will cause anything to rust. I don't know what the circumstances were or where you read it, but I do remember reading a thread on this board where there was a complaint abou the sights rusting. These are Novak sights and are not stainless.

 

[usmarine0352_2005]

Well, I would like it Stainless, b/c I know the Melonite can wear. And rust.

(Thanks, I knew even stainless can rust.) But I'm more worried about holster wear.

Dang, too bad it doesn't have a hammer. I'd swear I saw Mpls cops wearing them. (One of their requirements is a pistol has to have a hammer.)

 

[SouthpawShootr]

I'm sure the melonite finish can be stripped off. If it can wear, it can be stripped off. Somebody did that on one of these forums. Maybe www.smith-wessonforum.com. It was a home DIY job. Also seen people send theirs off to Tripp's to get them hard chromed. Never understood that one. Maybe S&W will eventually offer a matte stainless finish (they may even let you special order it that way, who knows).

The PD requirements are frequently rewritten to reflect current policies, so I wouldn't give that a second thought. More than likely, they got the budgetary OK to replace their weapons and S&W won the contract (if you did indeed see M&Ps in their holsters).

Some people wonder why S&W applied a black finish to stainless to begin with. As far as the black finish goes, I know several departments in the area whose regs stipulate that guns not be silver, gray, or otherwise potentially reflective in any way, shape or form. Not cool tactically speaking. They're looking towards perps homing in on officer's locations in darkened areas by reflections on their sidearms.

 

[usmarine0352_2005]

My friend carries a Stainless Sig for Mpls.

Mpls lets officers choose what they carry. Within I think it has to be Sig, Smith & Wesson, or Beretta. (No Glocks. He said it has to have a hammer.)

 

[SouthpawShootr]

Mpls lets officers choose what they carry. Within I think it has to be Sig, Smith & Wesson, or Beretta. (No Glocks. He said it has to have a hammer.)

This sort of stuff always fascinates me when it turns up. I wonder what the justification is behind requiring hammers. Possibly b/c they want everybody using a similar operating system?

What is Mpls, btw? Do the officers buy their own or can they opt for a city/county owned gun?

 

[usmarine0352_2005]

Minneapolis.

You buy your own. They give you a an allowance.

I think having a hammer is good, but shouldn't be a requirement.

The reason you can't have a Springfield XD in Mpls, I guess is because it's SA first shot, SA every shot afterwards.

I guess it has to be DA first shot, then SA after that.


I think that's stupid. But that's me.

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Mpls lets officers choose what they carry. Within I think it has to be Sig, Smith & Wesson, or Beretta. (No Glocks. He said it has to have a hammer.)
This sort of stuff always fascinates me when it turns up. I wonder what the justification is behind requiring hammers.

I think this is b/c it has to be DA first shot, SA after that, that if you want your first shot to be SA you can cock the hammer and have it SA.

Obviously if you choose a pistol that is SA first shot, you wouldn't need a hammer.

 

[Coronach]

This sort of stuff always fascinates me when it turns up. I wonder what the justification is behind requiring hammers. Possibly b/c they want everybody using a similar operating system?

If you thought making sense of gun laws was hard, try making sense of police department weapon policies. They're often a wierd mishmash of completely sane and practical (the stuff that the Ordnance Section staff managed to ram through) and the completely silly, illogical, backarsewards, and dangerous (the stuff that Executive Staff, the City Attorney, the Chief or Mayor could not be convinced to abandon). We have shotguns with flashlights, because lights are good, and no slings, because slings are...I have no idea.

Mike