Sniper rifle - is my collection incomplete without one?

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C'mon! Everyone should by at least one sniper rifle just to piss off an anti. A Rem 700 LTR with a Leupold M1 would be real nice, but you should be able to get into that set up for quite a bit less than $2300 if you shop around:

Rem 700 LTR - about $700 on the used market
Badger Rings and Base - $280
Leupold M1 w/Gen2 Mildot - $803

That puts you at under $1800. Good to go.
 
I don't have a sniper rifle and really have never sensed a void in my collection for not having one. :confused:

But everyone should have a .30, long range, Prairie Dog gun.

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But, if I have to carry it in this manner, I am definately going with the 20" version. The chicks will dig me.

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Don't forget the Isaac Hayes music in the background...
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What I'd do...

$300 for a donor Remington 700 with your choice of boltface (.222, .308, magnum)

$150 to clean up the action

$150 for a good trigger

$450 for a match-grade barrel, chambered to your specs

$350 for a good "tactical" stock (add $3.50 if you need to buy the black spray paint). Keep in mind that if you end up with a 15 pound rifle, that's 15 pounds YOU have to carry...

$500 for a Leupold, less for a Weaver.

I've got a friend who has a 700 in 7/08, fluted barrel, in a _blue_ hunting-style stock that Kelly did. Very lightweight, and consistently shoots into 1/2 MOA.
 
Second what others have said, and here is mine:
Rem 700PSS
Scope: Simmons Aetec 3.8-12 x 44 WA AO Mat Ill Ret. (about $150 at Natchezss.com)

Using BlackHills 168 gr Moly, it consistently shoots 1/2" 3-shot and 3/4" or less 4-shot groups at 100 yards, from the Versapod.

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Preachermans recent thred has verified my opinion of winchester rifles.

Winchester Model 70 Super Shadow in .300 WSM w/ a Leupold VX-I 3x9x40.

it looks almost... tactical :scrutiny:
 

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Tag - I could show you my barely sporterized original barrel Mauser 98 with its chopped up/butchered military wood stock, Redfield Jr. rings & base for a Weaver 330 scope - but I think you'd be jealous. ;)

Using Sellier & Belliot @ 100 yards, I got a 1 1/4" string with it. Maybe I'll upgrade it with a synthetic stock (with a nice rubber recoil pad).
 
politically incorrect sniper rifle

Here is a few pics of my weapon that I built myself.



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The business end

 
bolt guns done up right seem to, me anyways, have a much more refined evilness than your average AR. :evil:

she's a bute usmc1 :D

Getting back to the original posters inquiry: how could your collection (I like 'quiver') be complete without one?
 
Well here is my new setup. Remmington LTR in .223 for $780 new with DROS and tax. Super Sniper 10x from SWFA with Leupold QRW rings and mounts for $420 with shipping. Harris BR swivel bipod for $97 with tax. So a little under $1300 all together.

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Of course, now I want a PSS in .308. Damn, I need to get a better job.
 
here ya go

My setup:

Rem 700 LA, 338/416 wildcat, 34" Lilja Fluted SS Barrel, Ops Inc Brake, All Metal (scope & hardware, action, barrel, brake, bolt is lightly done) is finished in matte olive drab with a few other drab colors mixed in. Rifle Basix Trigger
Nightforce NXS 5.5-22x56 NP-R2 in Nightforce hardware
Choate Ultimate Sniper Stock. VERY consistant out to 2000yds. This thing LOVES Sierra 300gr MatchKings.
 
Nice Ratters. I've the same in .308 but unlike you, I bought most stuff used (yes, I'm cheap).
 
So what would one consider a "sniper rifle?"

Maybe in need of its own thread.

I fiigure any scoped rifle capable of reliably taking out an opponent at pretty extreme ranges - but, at that, a "police sniper" does that at mainly around 100+ yards .... cutting the medula oblangata is an esence of motor function ... ending a hostage situation versus "just" taking out an opponent at long(er) ranges.

Varies.

Whatayawannado?

Every rifle should do the former, while only some will do the later, & it will always come down to the rifleman.
 
Rambosky said:
Here's my version of the Marine M40A3.
Phew.

You people are hard core, where hard is spelled HARD.

Just give me a Rem Mt rifle or Ruger Mk-II in 7mm08 (which at least as flat a trajectory {if not better} at important ranges than .308 or .30-06, me thinks) and a nice Leupold VX-II scope, and I'll be happy as a coyote in the sheep pen.

Nem
 
dave3006 said:
(I purposely used the term Sniper Rifle because I love to be politically incorrect.)

I have a few Garands, a couple Mini-14s, and an SKS or two. However, I have the feeling that my collection is somehow inadequate without a good heavy barrel, scoped bolt action rifle. I was thinking about a Remington 700 LTR with a Leupold M1 scope. This type of setup would be about $2300 complete. I love shooting semi auto rifles. I just don't know if I will like the bolt action enough to justify the capital outlay.

Any comments from those of you who have made the leap into the precision rifle realm?
I have one Steyr-Mannlicher SSG-PII Police Sniper Rifle, which came with a 6 power sniper scope (German or Austrian made, though can't remember the maker of the scope off the top of my head) from the factory. I have a Harris bypod on it. From the bench it keeps them all inside of .45" at 100 yards. But then again, I have an old Sako action Browning (made 1961) with a medium heavy barrel, chambered in .243 that comes very close to matching that accuracy level, and it's much lighter by comparison (with 100 grainers, it keeps them all inside of .65" at 100 yards). Still, the Police Sniper SSG is cool, and I recommend, purely on principle, that every gunny have at least one dedicated sniper rifle, i.e., heavy barrel precision bolt action black rifle. Just to remind our would-be rulers and slave masters that we still retain the right to throw off their yoke at a time of our choosing.
 
Dave,

I would suggest the FN SPR if you are looking to drop $2300 into a rig. About $1400 for the rifle, leaving you $900 for a set of Badger rings and a decent scope. Have yet to hear of someone unhappy with the way this rifle shoots.

Don
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Here's my $0.02


I see it as 2 specific types of shooting requirements. Many people think they need a "sniper" rifle, when that is not what they really would want.


There's what you might call a "sniper rifle" and then what you might call a "designated marksman" type rifle.


This is somewhat from a SHTF perspective, but a bolt-action scoped rifle isn't useful for engaging multiple targets rapidly. Not as well as a semi-automatic scoped rifle. I guess it depends on what you want to accomplish. A bolt gun is more of a 1-shot 1-kill type weapon. That assumes your on OFFENSE. Not reacting in a defensive situation. Such a platform is the tool of a predator. It would be used to eliminate high-value targets.


I prefer a semi-automatic, military patterned, scoped rifle instead. This allows me to deliver lead at a much more rapid pace to engage many more targets quickly. These rifles have enough accuracy, ie "minute of man" accuracy out to several hundred yards, which in a battle or SHTF, is all you need. Such a scenario would better call for accurate rapid fire.


If I wanted a tool to get rid of undesirables in some tyrannical world, the best choice would be break action rifle, like an NEF, sawed down, in some caliber like 308. It would preserve its velocity due to having a longer barrel in a shorter platform (since it has no action). It is marginally slower than a bolt-gun, but it doesn't matter, the name of the game is SHOOT then SCOOT. Make your shot, and leave. Small, light, compact. Get a nice optic on there, like an illuminated range finding reticle...and you've got a great tool to take out the trash out to pretty long ranges.


It isn't likely that one will be in a ghuille suit stalking for days in brush to seek out some high-value target for assassination. More than likely, it will be you in a car, rolling down a window and popping the badguys from 100-300 yards, then driving off. Just like in Iraq right now. Mix in with the people in an urban setting. Not even our elite snipers can possibly stop this, it would require that every single part of society be surveilled constantly. This is impossible. If you actually think you can go toe-to-toe with any real snipers in a rural setting - you're dead meat. You will be going up against a much more highly trained, professional sniper, with far superior equipment. We're talking thermal detection, superior night vision etc...Bubba is going to be the equivalent of a prairie dog waiting to be shot.


A long barrled AR-15, or an M1A, both scoped would be great platforms. Lower recoil than highpowered bolt action 30 cals, easier to deliver more lethality. Very good for social situations.
 
I see it as 2 specific types of shooting requirements. Many people think they need a "sniper" rifle, when that is not what they really would want

Who said anything about 'need?' there is such a thing as buying something just for fun;)

Statistically speaking, a SHTF scenario where someone would 'need' a long range sniper rifle is about on par with me winning the $200million doallar powerball lottery tonight.
 
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