So..How much ammo is enough?

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With the current political atmosphere, I have now come to determine there is never enough ammo to have on hand. Besides having more peace at mind, there is no expiration date, you will eventually shoot it up, and you will always be able to sell it.


However, although possessing a gun & topped of magazine are priceless, using a MasterCard to stockpile weapons & ammo is pretty dumb. Necessity vs. Luxury varies with our budgets, think about it;)
 
ammo, etc.

Gun Control is using both hands and putting all rounds in the X ring.

MMCSRFT is sorta right about too many calibers being difficult to keep track
of, especially all the data and materials for reloading, however when the Fit
hits the Shan the more weapons and calibers one has, the more likely one will
be able to to find the wherewithal to continue to support the cause.

Hungry Seagul is close to the truth: One can never have enough provided

you can hide it and then find it when needed.

I am sure Warhall is right, but he must mean "Bazillion" PER WEAPON, right?

Kinda like JWarren who has a pretty good supply PER WEAPON.

Ted Nugent, in a radio interview last week, says he is buying ammo and
components for reloading and weapons rebuilding/repairing, by the semi-load.
If you are unloading with a forklift, you might be in the ballpark.
 
Depends on the guns you own. Say you have 10 guns that take 7.62X39 and 2000 rounds is not really that much. only 200 rounds per gun. 4000 rounds would be better. Then that is only 400 rounds per gun.
 
I always figured in a SHTF situation I'd be able to raid my local sporting goods store and stock up. Boy, was I mistaken. We aren't even near a crisis and it's impossible to find. So recently I've been thinking the same thing.

I'm going to always keep on hand: (At Minimum)
1000 rnds of .223
500 rnds of 9mm
1000 rnds of .22lr
1000 12g (Various shots)

If "it" really hit the fan, I'm not depending on anyone to defend or hunt for me and my family.
 
Geesh some of yall people stockpile a lot more than I would have thought.

Got me thinking so I counted it up:
85 12 gauge slugs
30 12 gauge 3 inch 00 buckshot
40 12 gauge turkey shot
525 12 gauge birdshot
20 16 gauge #6's
100 .410 birdshot
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75 .45 ACP
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600 7.62 x 39
25 .30-30
50 .308
550 .22lr

So now i'm thinking if some people stockpile tons of ammo they prolly have tons of guns, The only thing on the list I have more than one of is the .22lr and 12 gauge. To be fair the other two 12 gauges are bird guns with the choke made in the barrel with 2 3/4 inch only chambers.

Still I think I should pile up more. I figure I'd use it more for taking food than trading for food. The anti gun people should be easy targets.
 
If you inventory your ammo cache and can accomplish that task in under 30 minutes, you don't have enough.

If you can't find it, you can't shoot it. I need to clean out my garage!

144,000 rnd of .22lr
108,000 rnd of 9mm Luger
72,000 rnd of .40 S&W
72,000 rnd of .45ACP
36,000 rnd of .223
21,000 rnd of 7.62x39
21,000 rnd of .308

Must be some of that funny math we heard about during the 2004 elections.
 
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nothing personal, so please dont take it the wrong way, but some of you are just silly. 100,000 rounds + of ammo per gun? to be quite honest, i really think thats just WAY WAY over kill. youd be well ahead instead of stockpiling ammunition like that to get into reloading if your not already and stockpile components. having lots of reloading goodies on hand can be considered a "hobby", and youll get way WAY more ammo that way then having it all loaded. having 100,000 rounds loaded per gun ( and then bragging about it online ) is just an invitation for john q law to find some reason to nail your hide to a board, especially with the terrorist crap always going on and being stuck in every law enforcement agents mind in the USA. believe me, they WILL screw with you, and confiscate every piece of it, your guns ect, and make a case on you. i know almost first hand because i have a friend that it happened to. he had ammunition like that, and smeone called the feds on him and said they were worried, as it wasnt stored properly, and they were afraid because the only reason anyone might have ammo like that is if they were up to no good. well, the feds came in, checked everything out and confiscated it ( because of "unsafe storage" they said) . when he went to court, the judge ordered them to give him his guns back, but also agreed that no one needed that many pieces of ammunition, and that to safely store it, he would have to buy all sorts of fireproof reinforced crap. also, i had the cruddy opertunity to speak to the nimrod that is sponsoring AB-962 in california. if your not familiar, its the law there trying to pass that will only allow you to buy 50rds of ammunition a month, no transfer of ammunition, ammunition registration and fingerprinting,etc. he said the only reason that they decided that a bill like this was needed is because they had READ ONLINE and had SEEN FIRST HAND about these "guys" who were stockpiling ammunition in such large quantities that they were being WATCHED by the police for terrorist activities.


100,000 rounds per gun?....first thing that would happen if we did get into a shooting war or a civil war is that now that youve bragged about having all of this ammo, the cops will come right in and confiscate it so it isnt distributed, and then youll say F you (like i would) and before you got "you" out of your mouth, they would shoot you dead on the spot ( as they would me). dont think they dont know about it as DOJ,BATFE and the FBI watch all of these firearms related websites all the time, and you are FAR from anonymous. they can go thru your ISP and find out who you are, your address,etc with 1 phone call. ive seen them do it.
plus, think of it like this.

reloading components are designed to be as safe as possible IN THERE ORIGINAL CONTAINERS. powder will keep virtually indefinitely in its original container, sealed up. if you have a fire, it will flare and fizzle and be done. wereas having 100,000 rounds of ammunition for each gun you own,in the same circumstances, youll not only have an extreme explosion, youll probably inadvertantly kill most of your neigbors from exploding flying shrapnel

like i said, if your hording ammunition, your going to be viewed as a terrorist or antagonist. if you stockpile reloading equipment and supplies, bullet moulds,etc your are a hobbyist and a reloader. if chit did hit the fan, its not like the enemies going to be on your front lawn that fast, youd have plenty of tme to load all the ammunition youd ever need.plus, you get alot of guys who watch rambo or full metal jacket, and all the sudden there rambo and a killing machine, theres alot more to it then having loaded ammunition and guns. most have been programmed from day one with "thal shall not kill". alot of guys talk alot of chit, but most would freeze up instantly if they had to shoot at another human being,especially if you dont have any combat experience. some guys see a couple of movies and think there a killing machine. thats funny.

like i said before, dont take it wrong and its nothing personal, and im not trying to be an a**hole, but get a clue will ya? use your head guys. ok, so you have a buttload of ammunition thats being stored unsafely ( if you have 50,000 to 100,000 rounds per gun of loaded ammunition stockpiled, id bet your not storing safely), what would possess yhou to even think about getting on the internet in an open forums and bragging about it/>?

me?.....yes, i have ammunition for my firearms,but really, its no ones business how much i have but mine. ive got enough to protect me and mine, and thats all i need.
 
My neighbor has a lockable 6' x 6' x 24" steel(1/4") paint cabinet with four shelves that he has bolted to the floor and wall in his utility room. This thing has a UL rating and has been inspected by the city fire dept. Shelves are stocked just like at the gun store, from 22 cal to 50 cal, and some shotgun shells also. Nothing but ammo in it, 22,000 rounds he claims.

How much is enough? I believe what ever makes you feel safe/confortable and of course the ability to store it safely. For me its 1,000 rounds per gun per caliber. I have in the neighborhood of 15,000 rounds. If SHTF I'll pass out guns and ammo to my family members as we have planned
 
For a couple of years I've been shooting at least once a week and I would buy at least twice as much as I used. I've got a pretty good pile, but never counted it up, because I never deplete the 'stash''

Question. What's safe storage? My ammo is high, dry, temp controlled inside the house and while all the guns are locked up solid, most of the ammo isn't. It's behind closed cupboard doors inside a room rarely used in a house that's alarmed and secure.

Good enough?


thanks,

BCC
 
yea, but 22,000 for all of his guns is a far FAR cry from 70,000 to 100,000 rounds PER GUN. that is just BEGGING the feds to screw with you.

if any of you get the oprotunity that have ammo stockpiled like that, id sure love to see a photograph of what 100,000 rounds of ammunition looks like.what is that, a palate of ammunition boxes per gun?....if an ammunition box holds say, 1000 rounds ( such as with .223), that would be 100 full ammo cans PER GUN. plus, if its loose in ammuntion cans, what do you think would happen if a fire went thru the place?...i live 3 minutes from my own 4 mile by 5 mile open flat high desert stretch firing range, and have it setup from 20 yards to 1500 yards. i shoot darn near every day. do you hae any clue how long it takes to shoot 1000 rounds of ammuntion?


also, say from chits and grins we went to war tomorrow, and the communists were to land 20 miles from you. how long do you think it would take if they came marching thru for you to either do the smart thing, and get your self and your family in your rig and burn rubber and get them to safety, and if you decided to stay, how long would it take, if you were firing rounds at them for them to fire back and kill your arse?...also, if you did have to split, it would be virtually impossible for you to throw,say,if you had 10 guns and 100,000 rounds per gun,a million rounds of ammo in your rig and split out, meaning youd likely have to leave a buttload of it behind. so when the enemy comes stomping thru your front yard and ramsacks your house, you just donated all that extra ammo to the enemy to be used against your own people. say you had a bunker and dug in. if you stuck your head out to shoot , they would pinopoint your arse and just shoot a LAWS rocket up your rear, and youd be dead anyway. its just silly to have that kind of ammunition on hand, and even sillier to get online and brag about it.

i wont say how much ive got ( but ill guarantee you i dont have no 100,000 rounds per gun), but i can tell you i wouldnt consider having more than 1000 rounds per gun, and thats per gun id use in a combat situation. i wouldnt leave my guns and ammo like that in a situation the enemy could get them and kill americans with them. id load the ammo up for the guns id use in my rig,guns for the wife and son for protection,the ammunition for those guns i took, and destroy the rest of the guns, bail and head for the hills.

ive been a amature gold prospector for about 35 years. i know the ocations of old mines in california that go back thousands of feet underground, and most of them are lost and hidden


safe storage would be in a locked metal cabinet or container, preferably fire rated. i myself an guilty of not having that myself, but then again, i dont have near the ammo some guys have. my ammo is in a locked 1" thick wood ammunition cabinet thats covered with 1/16" steel sheet. not near what it should and could be, but like i said, i dont have near what some of these guys have.

im not saying i couldnt load what i need in a pinch, just that i dont have it stockpiled like that. i reload for over 30 different calibers, BUT i generally load as i shoot for the majority of them.


sell most of that ammuntion guys and get yourself a good progressive press,scale and the other stuff and just keep it on hand. easier to store, and on a progressive you can crank out all the rounds you need for pennies, and do it in one hot minute.
 
If the price of ammo continues to climb, as it has for the past few months. I will have enough ammo on hand to make at least two trips to the range per month for the next 12 to 13 months and still have my SD and HD ammo untouched on the shelf. I don't intend to replenish my stock unti the prices come down.
 
Just bought a job site box 4x2x2 to store mine in. Lockable but not fireproof.
Is that big enough?
 
if it will all fit id imagine its big enough.

please dont get me wrong, i am of the EXACT same mind as 99% of you, my only thing is its alot better for you and everyone else in the long run to keep it to yourselves, as 100,000 round sper gun +/- is a bit much to start with, and to tell it around online is really asking for trouble. it just gives the anti-gunners something to use against us.

like i said, if you dont reload, its time to start. stockpile reloading supplies. its much safer, its easy,relaxing and fun, plus when you work up loads for all those guns, you just gotta go out to the range and give them a try, now dont ya?....

i shoot damn near daily

going to hit the hay guys,
catchya later
 
Now I don't feel silly.

Luckily the fiancee and I have made good friends with a lady who works at Walmart and can is okay with getting us ten boxes of ammo a month. My fiancee loves shooting my Ruger P90s .45 ACP so we'll be getting five boxes of .45 ACP(I've got less than a k worth anyways stowed) one hundred round box of 9mm, three boxes of .38 spcl and one box of .357 magnum.

Granted I was supposed to be giving up on buying ammo but....yeah that didn't happen. And yeah I'll be stopping by the Walmart once a week to get ammo(drive by on the way home five days a week). So I'm doing alright.

Prices on wholesale and bulk are a joke, so other than the Walmart purchases, I'm done for now.
 
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