So much for amnesty at gun buy backs

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http://www.midhudsonnews.com/News/Motyka_arrest-06Jul07.html

Stolen gun turns up in Orange County buy-back program

Middletown – A Monroe man, who brought a .38 cal. handgun to the Middletown City Police Department to turn it in under Orange County’s six-week gun buy-back program, wound up behind bars.

Police Lt. Paul Rickard said Thursday that the gun that Michael Motyka, 52, brought in was reported stolen by New York City Police in the 1980s. A computer check confirmed that.

Motyka was charged with criminal possession of stolen property in the fourth degree.

Rickard said this was the first time that a stolen weapon was turned into Middletown Police during the gun amnesty program.
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Here's another article.

http://www.recordonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070706/NEWS/707060325/-1/NEWS

The buyback program trades ShopRite gift cards of as much as $150 for guns in an effort to get guns off the streets. Along with grocery money, it also offers immunity for illegally possessing a gun without a license. That immunity doesn't cover other offenses. Police are investigating whether the gun Motyka turned in was used in any crimes. They did not give him a gift card.
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LOL, cheap bastages didn't even give him the gift card.
 
These guys are real bright. Given the circumstances I doubt that the individual who turned in the gun knew it was stolen. A lot of water has gone under the dam since the 1980's. However when the word gets around the next buy-back may not do so good. Then they'll complain about all of the guns that are out on the street.

As my late Mother used to say, "some people don't have enough brains to keep their ears apart..." :neener:
 
Choosing to participate in a "voluntary confiscation program" is just not a good choice. But -WE- already knew that.

I suppose this is just another form of "stupid tax".
 
I suppose this is just another form of "stupid tax".
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That's an interesting point. If our tax dollars are funding these buy-backs, be it police funding or otherwise, should not we the people OWN them? They should be put in a county funded range for all non-felon Tax-payers to rent for a significantly reduced price.
 
Any lawyers want to comment on what the applicable statatute of limitations is? I fear that since he had the gun under is control, the possession charge will hold as it was in his possession.
 
If it's tax dollars that fund it I want a chance to buy them at public auction. The city or county can use the profit to fund more of the same. This gives people who no longer want a gun the option of getting rid of it with compensation, and the anti's can rest assured the gun is off the street. (and in my house )
 
That's an interesting point. If our tax dollars are funding these buy-backs, be it police funding or otherwise, should not we the people OWN them? They should be put in a county funded range for all non-felon Tax-payers to rent for a significantly reduced price.
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What an excellent notion combined with littlmak's comments. I doubt it would fly but I think I'm going to bring that idea up in a city meeting sometime just to see how people respond :)
 
Ah! my old hometown. Good riddance.

Why should it matter if the gun was stolen or not? It was turned in, isn't that what they wanted? Like the guy they arested was the one who stole it, get real.

It was the first time a stolen gun was turned in, and probably the last time too. Last time any gun will be turned in is more like it.
 
I guess the definition of the word amnesty has changed forever now.

Someone should let Noah Webster in on this so he can revise the dictionary...
 
Hmmm, Reminds Me . . .

I started a thread once on why participating in buybacks is a bad idea.

Looks like the buyback idea isn't getting any better.

Sucks to be that guy.

He may finally walk free, but he will tell everyone he knows about the experience.

I wonder what it will do to his perception of rights? Specifically RKBA?

I wonder if he'll lose that right before the smoke clears.

Sucks to be that guy.
 
Buy-BACK?
So the police sold him a stolen handgun then bought it back?

Well hopefully this will put a serious hamper on future "buy-backs".
 
I guess they just spoiled the market for the buy-back program, what with their insistence on trying to nail people for charges other than illegal gun possession in addition to paying far less than the market value for weapons.
Of course, turn in your gun for cash/gift card, no questions asked, no ballistic tests on the gun, no tracing the gun, and they melt it down for you would make the state an accessory to destruction of evidence and obstruction of justice, wouldn't it?
 
I suppose this is just another form of "stupid tax".
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Dave Ramsey listener? I think the police are penny wise pound foolish on this one. I bet the next gun buy back they have will just be disarming law abiding citizens and not felons. Then again, that has never stopped a gun grab before.
 
Anyone taking a perfectly good gun and turning it in for an unknown demise deserves what he gets.
 
So the gun has been missing for 20 +/- years... do the police really think that this guy stole it? That defies common sense, as it probably changed hands (via private face to face transactions) several times since it was stolen.

Then again, it defies common sense to participate in a gun "buy back" to begin with...
 
Trusting the police...

http://www.midhudsonnews.com/News/Motyka_arrest-06Jul07.html

Middletown – A Monroe man, who brought a .38 cal. handgun to the Middletown City Police Department to turn it in under Orange County’s six-week gun buy-back program, wound up behind bars.

Police Lt. Paul Rickard said Thursday that the gun that Michael Motyka, 52, brought in was reported stolen by New York City Police in the 1980s. A computer check confirmed that.

Motyka was charged with criminal possession of stolen property in the fourth degree.

Rickard said this was the first time that a stolen weapon was turned into Middletown Police during the gun amnesty program.
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Amnesty... :eek:
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First, the police would have to base the arrest on the guy knowing, or should have reasonably known the handgun was stolen.

If you walk into a police station stating, I found this gun and want to turn it in, your not going to be arrested because they run the gun and find out it was stolen.

I'm going to say there is a lot more info missing from this story.
 
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