I know this has been mentioned before but it seems the only powder that want you to use is BE 86! Go to their website to look up loads say in this case 40 SW 165 gr FMJ. For the 180 gr bullet they give you some other choices. It gives you one choice BE 86!! How about power pistol, unique or all the other good powders. BE 86 the new wonder do all powder Guess that's why I buy mostly Hodgdon powders.