Socom II Accuracy for you haters...

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Just to give the Socom model haters a range report today. I was blessed with the opportunity today to shoot at the best and longest range I have ever shot in my life. When I arrived, I was expecting maybe 200 yards at best. Here in Florida, unfortunately most ranges are limited between 200-300 yards at best. When I saw the distance, my jaw dropped....700 yards WITH steel targets. It was set up as follows....

100 yards: Paper targets
200 yards: Paper targets
300 yards: 3 1" thick steel swinging targets - One about the size of a medium pizza and the other two about the size of a softball.
400 yards: More steel similar to the ones at 300
500 yards: 2 "Buffalo" shaped steel swinging targets
700 yards: 3 3x3 square steel plates

An here is a picture to prove it...
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Well, the point of this thread to finally prove a point. Several posts that I have made about my beloved Socom II are usually met with socom model haters and nothing but solid negative feedback. Well I can confidently say that I can now prove most of those skeptics or arm chair feedbackers WRONG.

I sat down and inserted the 10 round magazine into my Socom (which was already zeroed in at 100 yards)....After shooting a few of our AR's, I decided to brave it, and attempt to shoot the medium pizza sized round steel taget staring back at me from 300 yards away. Now I was really nervous to do this because I have never shot her that far before and after hearing what a
"terribly inaccurate rifle" she was after 100 yards (Accoring to the haters) I almost changed my mind. I was afraid that maybe they were right and I would have to walk away in shame with my most prized rifle that just couldn't get the job done. But I had faith in the ol' girl....

With a small sandband, I rested the rifle on the bench and I set the "fat" irons sights that are standard on the Socom (that everyone claimed would cover a man sized targer at 100) at the very top of the bright orange steel plate. I figured at 300 yards the bullet would drop a little so instead of messin' around with my irons I just KW'd it and fired off the first round....honestly I expected to hear silence...Then I grinned from ear to ear when I saw the puff of smoke, the plate swing and that gratifying DING! The next 9 rounds you ask? All the same as the first...it was the best 10 rounds I have ever shot in my life.

So now that my confidence was soaring, I decided to push the envelope and take her out to the 500 yard steel......Loaded the mag and set up the same as last time...fired the first round....nothing...second round nothing....then I though to myself that maybe I was aiming too high and not giving the rifle enough credit for what she can really do....So, I rested the front blade just above the steel plate and sent that 168 grain Sierra Match King BT whizzing down range and...PING! And the result was the same every round after till the mag was empty.

So to those of you that claim a Socom 16 or II is a "100 yard gun at best" can eat my shattered bullet fragments....I know now that I can accurately AND consistantly shoot an animal/man sized target out to 500 yards and probably farther on the right day. SO nanny nanny boo boo....you know the rest!:neener:
 
Awesome results, from an awesome rifle

Don't worry about what all the haters say. The same people that told you the socom II or 16 was a 100 yd gun at best are probably the same ones that posted about how bad the carbon 15 was and almost had me ready to sell it before I actually gave it a chance. Most of the ones hating are the ones who arent lucky enough to have bad:cuss: toys in their arsenal.
 
Oh and I had to add this in there....After firing about 25 rounds at the 700 yard steel target, I finally hit pay dirt with my CMP Springfield Armory Service Grade M1 Garand.....700 yards with irons!!!! Granted I shot at it about 25 times before I hit it, but the point is that I hit it!!! Best range day of my life!
 
Good for you. :)

Now youre all set for those big orange steel meanies when they attack you while youre sitting at your picnic table. Take careful aim now. :neener:

Now that you have your confidence up, you can work on more realistic targets from realistic positions, and show us the hits this time. :)

Either they made those SOCOM II front sights "a lot" smaller than the original SOCOM's, or FLA "med" pizzas are huge. :D


Nice range too, by the way.
 
Memphis Jim: Yeah I shot the Garand at 100 and 200 and then at 700. I spent most of my time hitting steel at 300 and 500 with my new Spike's Tactical AR-15...plus I had a ton of .223 ammo.

Legal Alien: The range is in Flagler County Florida.

AK103K: I knew I would get a response out of you since you are one of the many that always replies negatively (but don't worry it doesn't offend me, just makes it more fun). All I can say is I'll stack my Socom against your best Gay-K 47 anyday....lol (it's a joke, don't get offended). And yes I was shooting from a bench, which one typically does when they are at a rifle R-A-N-G-E. I'm sure I could have hit the 300 yard steel prone or sitting...probably not the 500 but you give me inspiration to continue proving you oh so wrong. Next time I go I plan to shoot other positions. To answer your question the front sights have not changed and a Domino's Medium Pizza is the same size in every state...duh! lol

What it really comes down to is that some people who just don't possess the ability to shoot well will talk negatively about certain weapons. I believe myself to be a pretty good shooter (not a pro or anything), but most of the time when I set my mind to something I can get it done. Point is is that no matter what ANYONE says on this forum, I know that my rifle is capable of exceptional accuracy and performance...and since I hunt I would confidently take shot at an animal or "realistic" target out to 500 all day.

It's just funny because I make a positive range report and then it's something else "shoot from a different position" or "the front sight must be smaller" or something something something blah blah blah....does it matter if I shoot at a realistic target, or from a realistic position?...I think not....the argument wasn't about my ability, but the rifle's ability...and it proved it's worth through and through. Thank you and come again.
 
I was thinking exactly that...however, I dont think my Droid X will film 700 yards away...lol. I will see what I can do.
 
That is some good shooting and a gorgeous looking range. I am jealous. I wish I had those guns, and that range to shoot at, and what appears to be lovely weather!
 
And yes I was shooting from a bench, which one typically does when they are at a rifle R-A-N-G-E.

And I fail to understand why so many R-A-N-G-E-S limit rifle shooters to benched positions only. How boring. :banghead:

Your M-1 Garand has graduations on the rear sight knob for adjusting for ranges. Once you're zero-ed at 100, you can reset the drum and then turn it to each range line as you go. I've never tried them, as I just adjust to the ranges at 200 and 300 yards, but I believe they're regulated to the trajectory of 150gr M-2 ball.
 
Yeah and I am using the CMP Greek ammo....I may have only hit the steel once but the other shots were very close judging by the dust from each bullet strike...couldnt be happier with a 60+ old rifle.
 
I knew I would get a response out of you since you are one of the many that always replies negatively
I knew right away who you were poking at, "word for word". :)

And yes I was shooting from a bench, which one typically does when they are at a rifle R-A-N-G-E.
We shoot at a rifle range too, we just dont use the benches. ;)

What it really comes down to is that some people who just don't possess the ability to shoot well will talk negatively about certain weapons.
Id "really" like to hear your ideas on this. Should be a great read. :rolleyes:

Point is is that no matter what ANYONE says on this forum, I know that my rifle is capable of exceptional accuracy and performance...and since I hunt I would confidently take shot at an animal or "realistic" target out to 500 all day.
So now youre telling us you can shoot 8-10" groups with a SOCOM using iron sights (or even a red dot/scout scope) and not shooting off a bench, on demand? Not that I doubt your skill, but I think targets with pics and witness's signatures would be appropriate. :D

It's just funny because I make a positive range report and then it's something else "shoot from a different position" or "the front sight must be smaller" or something something something blah blah blah....does it matter if I shoot at a realistic target, or from a realistic position?...I think not....the argument wasn't about my ability, but the rifle's ability...and it proved it's worth through and through. Thank you and come again.
You win. :rolleyes: Youve had a BIG chip on your shoulder ever since you started going off about all this "SOCOM negativity" through multiple threads, and youre still trolling, which was the whole point of the post, wasnt it?

If you want to impress, go down to your club and hook up with some High Power / CMP shooters and shoot a match using your SOCOM. Real "basic" stuff at "easy" targets, and not even 700 yards, that you can score and compare. Then come back and tell us how you do and how accurate the gun is.
 

I don't know you from Adam but the OP just posted his thoughts on a fun day at the range and it sure looks like you are trolling him.

I shoot a mix of supported and offhand myself and have a suspicion that anyone shooting at something 500+ yards away will do a smidge better with a rest...but then you seem to know all about that!
 
Youre coming into this late. Go back and check out some of the other threads and you'll see whos trolling.
 
Youre coming into this late. Go back and check out some of the other threads and you'll see whos trolling.

idk man, let him have it, it's his thread after all.

btw your sig makes good sense but only if you practice it :neener:
 
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