Some Companies are jerks

[SharpDog]

Corporate America Continues Use of Financial Gun Control:

Certain members of corporate America are continuing to use financial gun control by refusing to process payments for firearm manufacturers.
NBC Los Angeles reports that companies like Stripe and Inuit are refusing to process payments from gun makers, while Bank of America refuses “financing to companies that make AR-style guns.”

Bank of America is doing this even though AR-style rifles are both legal and commonly owned.

http://www.breitbart.com/california/2018/06/26/corporate-america-against-gun-industry/#bbvb

Boycotts for sure are in order but it will take more than that. It will take more than financial damage, we also need to damage their brands.

 

[AlexanderA]

These companies are "virtue signalling." I don't think that they themselves take this all that seriously, and they'll backtrack when the issue is off the front burner.

 

[jmorris]

You know when I look for customers, I look for ones that want to do business with me, so I can make a living.

I never had even a bumper sticker because the only thing you could do with one is offend. Not unlike the wise man keeping his mouth shut.

However, I am all for business “taking a stand” publicly, because now I know what ones to avoid.

If they were smart, they would take money from the “fools” and go on with their agenda but they are so short sighted to loose ~50% of the customers that pay attention to such things, no matter what they do, when they combine business with politics.

 

[jmace57]

The problem is, many of the businesses never know it costs them.

I am making a road trip in a couple of weeks, and while looking at google and reviewing my motel choices between two choices, I saw a review where someone said "how can this motel have a 30.06 [no guns allowed in Texas] rule - of course many.most travellers going through Texas have a gun for protection?". As soon as I saw that, I chose the other motel. They will never know they lost a sale over it.

 

[wally]

The problem is, many of the businesses never know it costs them.

I am making a road trip in a couple of weeks, and while looking at google and reviewing my motel choices between two choices, I saw a review where someone said "how can this motel have a 30.06 [no guns allowed in Texas] rule - of course many.most travellers going through Texas have a gun for protection?". As soon as I saw that, I chose the other motel. They will never know they lost a sale over it.

You could send them a letter with a copy of your receipt from the other motel

 

[JeeperCreeper]

Issue is, some of these companies may lose business from a core group, but may gain some from the hysterical others.

Some businesses have "taken a stand" and gotten political, and it then boosts business.

 

[theotherwaldo]

If they can take a stand then so can I... and I plan to tell them why I am taking this stand whenever feasible.

 

[Hokie_PhD]

Issue is, some of these companies may lose business from a core group, but may gain some from the hysterical others.

Some businesses have "taken a stand" and gotten political, and it then boosts business.

Getting political and alienating half the population is usually not a smart business move. Better to stay out of politics than lose customers. And anyone who runs a business knows it’s easier to keep customers than get new ones.

 

[bullseye308]

It’s great if you choose not to do business with them, but they definitely need to know about it and why. If you don’t tell them why someone else is getting their money it won’t do near as much good. Write a letter to the manager of the business and also corporate and let them know.

 

[ATLDave]

These companies are "virtue signalling." I don't think that they themselves take this all that seriously, and they'll backtrack when the issue is off the front burner.

I think you are missing how ingrained anti-gun sentiment has become among certain social circles. Including the circle where most of the financial "masters of the universe" live. They're like Bloomberg - plutocrats who are all about low taxes and capitalism, but believe it's just insane to allow the plebes to own guns. I think it's quite sincere.

 

[Hokie_PhD]

I think you are missing how ingrained anti-gun sentiment has become among certain social circles. Including the circle where most of the financial "masters of the universe" live. They're like Bloomberg - plutocrats who are all about low taxes and capitalism, but believe it's just insane to allow the plebes to own guns. I think it's quite sincere.

I had a former coworker lie and start a rumor that I was carrying on campus because they didn’t like that I said had I been armed I would have shot the gunman who shot up my classroom. I’m pretty sure I know who it was and I’m pretty sure they knew it wasn’t true. I’m also sure they knew if enough people got concerned over it they wouldn’t renew my contract which is what happened. So yea that crowd will do anything to harm those of us they disagree with.

In the case I cite I’m pretty sure that if the person I think started the lie, they were rewarded with paid time to lobby against the 2nd Amendment. I find it incredibly frightening that anyone would think that eliminations the 2nd is a good idea. They don’t get it’s the protection of the others and without it we have no Bill of Rights.

 

[troy fairweather]

I had a former coworker lie and start a rumor that I was carrying on campus because they didn’t like that I said had I been armed I would have shot the gunman who shot up my classroom. I’m pretty sure I know who it was and I’m pretty sure they knew it wasn’t true. I’m also sure they knew if enough people got concerned over it they wouldn’t renew my contract which is what happened. So yea that crowd will do anything to harm those of us they disagree with.

In the case I cite I’m pretty sure that if the person I think started the lie, they were rewarded with paid time to lobby against the 2nd Amendment. I find it incredibly frightening that anyone would think that eliminations the 2nd is a good idea. They don’t get it’s the protection of the others and without it we have no Bill of Rights.

I'm sorry u had to go thru that

 

[Hokie_PhD]

I'm sorry u had to go thru that

Thanks
It is what it is

I just wish people had honor and integrity.
If you claim to be for social justice then do th8ngs to help others. Don’t do the do as I say not as I do and then do things to hurt others.

It’s gotten to the point I’ve given up trying to discuss th’bgs with that type. They don’t want to learn and they think they’re smarter than everyone else.

The worst one was another coworker there going on about the need for universal background checks and closing the gun show loop hole and had never been to a gun show. Worse she argued and started screaming at me when she had to admit tha5 she’d never been to a gun show nor had ever bought a gun.

 

[troy fairweather]

Thanks
It is what it is

I just wish people had honor and integrity.
If you claim to be for social justice then do th8ngs to help others. Don’t do the do as I say not as I do and then do things to hurt others.

It’s gotten to the point I’ve given up trying to discuss th’bgs with that type. They don’t want to learn and they think they’re smarter than everyone else.

The worst one was another coworker there going on about the need for universal background checks and closing the gun show loop hole and had never been to a gun show. Worse she argued and started screaming at me when she had to admit tha5 she’d never been to a gun show nor had ever bought a gun.

Just can't believe how far things go sometime on just here say many people have been fired or arrested for it and had nothing to do with it.

 

[troy fairweather]

The funny thing is if u just give people a chance to try to shot or go hunting and they forget all the game bs they here most of them love to shoot and hunt and are amazed people like us are just normal ppl

 

[Hokie_PhD]

The funny thing is if u just give people a chance to try to shot or go hunting and they forget all the game bs they here most of them love to shoot and hunt and are amazed people like us are just normal ppl

True. Reasonable people will love it.

I never was into guns. In fact being around them made me a bit nervous. That said, I’ve always been pro 2nd Amendment.

It wasn’t until before the 2nd Obama election That I decided to learn to shoot and get my conceal carry permit. My concern was that there was going to be civil unrest no matter who one. Thankfully that didn’t happen, but a friend who was an NRA instructor taking me to the range, them taking a gun safety class and I decided to learn all I could.

 

[troy fairweather]

True. Reasonable people will love it.

I never was into guns. In fact being around them made me a bit nervous. That said, I’ve always been pro 2nd Amendment.

It wasn’t until before the 2nd Obama election That I decided to learn to shoot and get my conceal carry permit. My concern was that there was going to be civil unrest no matter who one. Thankfully that didn’t happen, but a friend who was an NRA instructor taking me to the range, them taking a gun safety class and I decided to learn all I could.

Ya Obama made a lot more off us come out the woodwork lol

 

[JTHunter]

Corporate America Continues Use of Financial Gun Control:

So what else is new??

 

[JTHunter]

You could send them a letter with a copy of your receipt from the other motel

Or email it to BOTH the local business AND corporate. And maybe remind them that Tennessee (??) passed a law making those businesses that have those signs have to assume responsibility for their customer's safety, if they aren't allowed to protect themselves.

 

[Don Dayacetah]

A good part of the problem is that only 4.2% of America's 140 million gun owners are in the NRA. Businesses have no respect for 6 million people, out of 350 million.
If 100 million people were in the NRA, they would change their crap-ass tune real quick.

 

[bullseye308]

You can always send an NRA gift membership to someone, especially an anti. Maybe they will read the magazine and maybe realize we aren’t that bad. I did that for a few folks and just told them if they didn’t want the magazine I’d read it.

 

[hdwhit]

wally wrote:
You could send them a letter with a copy of your receipt from the other motel

Agreed. Until you take the time to let them know that the policy is actually costing them revenue, then so long as the property is hitting its revenue projections and occupancy rate projections, nobody will care.

 

[hdwhit]

Don Dayacetah wrote:
A good part of the problem is that only 4.2% of America's 140 million gun owners are in the NRA.

Yep. And from my standpoint as one of the "jackbooted thugs", it can stay that way.

 

[hdwhit]

Sharpdog wrote:
Certain members of corporate America are continuing to use financial gun control by refusing to process payments for firearm manufacturers.
http://www.breitbart.com/california/2018/06/26/corporate-america-against-gun-industry/#bbvb

Of course, quoting Breitbart as a source isn't going to get you taken seriously outside the echo chamber.

Boycotts for sure are in order but it will take more than that. It will take more than financial damage, we also need to damage their brands.

Take care.

Before you call for a boycott make sure you have it organized and can carry it through for as long as it takes to get results. To stop using a bank in a fit of pique and then gravitate back as soon as they send you a flyer in the mail saying, "Open an account with us and we'll pay you $150." simply tells them you have no stomach for a real boycott and that weakens us all because future threats of a boycott will be regarded as just as toothless as it was the last time.

 

[Rock185]

I have read that about 1 in 3 Americans own a gun, and many of those owners are older. If that information is somewhat correct, perhaps financial institutions have done the math, and figure they are on rock solid ground in siding with the other 2/3 of the population, many of them younger, who may be neutral on the subject, or somewhere on the anti-gun spectrum? Anti-gun Virtue Signaling is so popular and politically correct now days, that I am not surprised that financial institutions want to be publicly aligned with those that they obviously perceive as the ultimate winners on this issue. After all, it must be the right position to take because most major media, Hollywood, professional sports figures, music industry figures, "peaceful" marchers/protesters,etc, support any action possible to eliminate private ownership of firearms (especially those black ones with the "shoulder thing that goes up"), and in fact all aspects of the hated "Gun Culture".........ymmv